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« on: March 24, 2009, 09:18:13 am »

  First of all I just wanted to say hello to everyone, and say thanks for all the great advice from everyone on here. I have just started hunting hogs with dog's about 8 month ago. I have got to say this has to be the most additive hunting that I have ever done. Me, and my family really enjoy it. I'm raising, and started training my catahoula pups with the help of my cousin, and the advice from people on here, and they are doing great so far.
  I was just wondering at what age ya'll start taking your pups to the woods? My Cat pups are 9 months old. They bay great in a pen. I have also taken them to the woods one time, and let them run with my cousins more experienced dogs. The problem there was they wanted to stay wherever I was, until they heard my cousin's dogs bay up, and then they took off to the bay. Is there anything I can do to get them out hunting?
  I would like to get them in the woods more, but it's hard for me , and my cousin to get together, and hunt, because I work shift work. So I was wondering if there is anyone that hunts near or around Dayton Tx. that doesn't mine a newbie, and newbie dogs hunting with them. I would like to meet more people that hunts hogs with dogs, and see the different ways people's dogs hunt. Just shoot me a pm or email and I will get back with you.

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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 09:59:35 am »

Hello I am fairly new to hog hunting also I have been hunting for about 3 years and been training and buying dogs and finally got my pack together about a year ago. I started my pups when they were around 6 months old. What I have found that worked for me is letting the pups get to know your older dogs. Then send your older dogs out to hunt and keep your younger dogs on leashes or where they can see them leave out to hunt. Do this maybe a couple times and your pups should go with them but they usually won't stay gone as long but that should come with age and experiance. If we lived closer we could defanantly hunt together, but I live in Oklahoma. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 10:30:03 am »

I'd hunt them a few more times with your cousin when you can, so they can get an idea of why they are in the woods and what they are after.

Then after after a few times of hunting with older dogs, hunt them by themselves, that might make them range out some more since they have no older dogs to rely on to find them pigs.

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 10:32:33 am »

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 i usually start my pups in the pen at about 4 mo. some will start then some will start later.
after i have them baying in pen i start taking them to the woods on short hunts.
 at about 6 mo. they can ussually keep up pretty good, they will have to get lost a few times before they figure out how to find you if they get left behind by the other dogs, they will come back the same way they left ussually.
 i always take my pups with a dog they know and want to follow,this will help you alot.
 if you can get a started dog that wants to get out  or find a buddy that has a dog the pups want to follow.

 if you cant find a dog to put the pups with take a small pig and drag it thru the woods then put it in a dog crate or tie it up. then come back with the pups and start walking them thru the woods and let them find the hog sent, they should pick it up.
 after a few times of this they will hit the ground looking for a hog.
                                    good luck, craig
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 10:54:48 am »

i have had this work on some pups before.  If they do go out with your cousins dogs alittle bit then come back try this.  When you let them out and they start following them. Hide behind a tree so they cant see you when they turn around. most of the time when they dont see you they will take off with the older dogs. Dont work all the time but worth a try
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 11:16:52 am »

 Thanks for the info everyone. The only problem I have is that I don't get to hunt with my cousin that much. The way I work, I off mostly during the week and my cousin is off on the weekends. We have tryed to get together it's just not working out for us.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 11:21:22 am »

Whether it's your cousin or someone else you find to hunt with, see if they will let you pen your pups with their dogs (preferably in the same pen, but if they don't get along, real close will work) for a week or so prior to hunting.  Nine times out of ten, the pups will buddy up and go with the older dog.
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 01:16:42 pm »

  Thanks Bryant, never thought of doing that before I make a hunt with my cousin or a buddy.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2009, 03:00:12 pm »

You keep talking about more than one pup. When ever you do get to go with whoever try only taking one pup at a time. I have better luck with only one pup with older dogs they seem to go hunt with older dogs better by there self. One pup will pay more attention to older dogs when they don't have young buddy to play with.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2009, 03:11:44 pm »

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   Yes I'm talking about more that one pup. I had all 3 of them with me the day we took them hunting with my cousins dog. We didn't turn them all loose at the same time. We done just what you said, by turning loose only one at a time so they wouldn't play together. Should have I just brought only one or is it ok to have the other pups with me and do just like we did.  Thanks
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2009, 03:18:18 pm »

I would only take one pup at a time cause if u take all 3 the ones not turned out will wine in the box and ur pup will pay more attention to them wining than your older dogs.
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2009, 04:44:12 pm »

  When we took them out that day all together we only turned loose one at a time the other 2 stayed with the ranger didnt bark or wine that I know of. But I will give it a try. I guess it would be better to take one at a time that way you work with just one dog verces three dogs. I was trying to give them some woods time under there belt and just wanted to see what each one of them would do in the woods.
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2009, 08:17:08 am »

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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2009, 10:11:31 am »

  First of all I just wanted to say hello to everyone, and say thanks for all the great advice from everyone on here. I have just started hunting hogs with dog's about 8 month ago. I have got to say this has to be the most additive hunting that I have ever done. Me, and my family really enjoy it. I'm raising, and started training my catahoula pups with the help of my cousin, and the advice from people on here, and they are doing great so far.
  I was just wondering at what age ya'll start taking your pups to the woods? My Cat pups are 9 months old. They bay great in a pen. I have also taken them to the woods one time, and let them run with my cousins more experienced dogs. The problem there was they wanted to stay wherever I was, until they heard my cousin's dogs bay up, and then they took off to the bay. Is there anything I can do to get them out hunting?
  I would like to get them in the woods more, but it's hard for me , and my cousin to get together, and hunt, because I work shift work. So I was wondering if there is anyone that hunts near or around Dayton Tx. that doesn't mine a newbie, and newbie dogs hunting with them. I would like to meet more people that hunts hogs with dogs, and see the different ways people's dogs hunt. Just shoot me a pm or email and I will get back with you.

   thanks
       James

I have been hunting with dogs for 24 years, and my dad hunted hogs with dogs back in the 60's in Central Florida where I am from. I will say this.....it is a judgement call on when to take pups into the woods because there are lots of things that can go wrong in a switch cane patch or a briar patch, or (insert scenerio here) which might test the resolve of a pup. The bay pen is a good place to start a pup, but if done too long they may not want to range as much. I have started pups both ways, and it seems that when a pup is taken to the woods only it usually hunts better, because it knows to get to bay a hog it has to go look for a hog. There is no pen with hogs in it. This is just from my personal experience. My hunting buddy (Maverick) and I have some young dogs out of his line of dogs that have never been in a pen and they hunt like the woods are on fire. They go off with our strike dogs and stay with them. I have had bay pen dogs I took to the woods and you had to kick them out from under your feet until they bay started. Having said that...there are exceptions in every case that could go either way. but if a pup at 9 months will go to a bay, then you need to take them (as previously suggested) with the older dogs for a while. Then after several hunts, see what they will do on their own. This is just my opinion....... Grin
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