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« on: February 02, 2012, 11:37:55 am » |
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I am new at hog hunting with dogs, that being said I am not a kid by any means. Now, I have the oppertunity to get a Mountain Cur out of a line from Castlehill Kennals in Missouri. They are a good line of hunting dogs, mostly coons and squirrels. A few have been used on hogs. I have seen several posts on Black Mouth Curs and want your opinions on the 2 breeds. Thank you....
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okboarhunter
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 11:43:27 am » |
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I have a kemmer stock mt. cur n hes been baying since he was a pup, lots of drive id like to get another someday, also have a bmc she a good dog to
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Reuben
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 11:54:39 am » |
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my guess is that most on this website hunt bmc but I know a good mtn cur can hunt with the best of any kind of hog dog...some are open so if that is a no no for you then you might want to look elsewhere.
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wannabe
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 12:50:39 pm » |
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Thanks guys, what Ihave read about them is they are smart and reasonably easy to train.
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Wmwendler
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 01:20:00 pm » |
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The main difference, and most pertinent, is that a BMC has more livestock working instinct on average than a Mountan Cur. Both can make good hog dogs and both produce culls. But hogs are livestock and a BMC has more livestock working instinct which in my opinion is why they are more common in hog hunting than mountain curs. Either choice would be a good one. Just as long as its not a hound.  Walyon |
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wannabe
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 01:27:34 pm » |
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Why not a hound, i have seen several post with people using hounds and hound crosses.
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Wmwendler
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 02:38:33 pm » |
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They do ok....Its just not my preference.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 04:31:23 pm » |
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Why not a hound, i have seen several post with people using hounds and hound crosses.
because most these kids on here lack the bottom to keep up with a good hound just kidding [maybe] it just boils down to the open or tight mouthed debate |
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wannabe
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 04:58:20 pm » |
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Well, I am coming from a coon hunting back ground. I ran Treeing Walkers for years and stumbled all around the Sabine River Bottoms. always loved to hear those dogs run.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 06:38:44 pm » |
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Hell they all do it just fine. But when you think squirrel you think terrier When ya think coon or fox you think hound. When ya think rabbit you think beagle. Some may deny their inner voice but when ya think hog ya gotta think Ybmc.  its truly the other white meat! AND THEY HAVE TAILS! How cool is that!  Ok cat boyz let me have it I know I musta left yall out. Hehe  |
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 06:50:08 pm » |
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Castlehill raises Omcba Mtn Curs and are good dogs I have had two from them myself. Niether were hog dogs. I have a omcba mtn Cur that I run hogs with and she does pretty good. They are bred to hunt squirrel and coon and are more of a close range winding dog not sayin they can't take a trail but for the most part they wind better than they trail. I like Mtn Curs myself but to each his own!
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2012, 08:37:39 pm » |
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another rhing u need to look at is do u wanna bay em. most strands of bmc i have seen are roughrr type dogs where as mtn curs and crosses i have seen are loose..... which is my preference and to be honest, i like a crossed up dog. u need to find out how u wanna hunt and what u would like to see out of your dogs as far as range and grit then make your choice on what strand of dog u choose.
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wannabe
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 09:11:01 pm » |
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What I want is a dog that will bay and keep them in one spot till I get there and let a catch dog lose. What do you think or reccommend me getting?
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 09:10:16 am » |
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Plotts are the best all around hog dog. they are a cold nose dog and rough and bay tight when needed to
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TShelly
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 12:41:21 pm » |
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Some may deny their inner voice but when ya think hog ya gotta think Ybmc. its truly the other Ok cat boyz let me have it I know I musta left yall out. Hehe Actually.. BMC= cow dog... Maybe a help dog on hogs  Cats= cull (most of the time) I feed one of each, so Mine must be the exception Cur dog= hog dog (preferably Black or Red!!! ) |
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Reuben
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2012, 12:52:07 pm » |
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Some may deny their inner voice but when ya think hog ya gotta think Ybmc. its truly the other Ok cat boyz let me have it I know I musta left yall out. Hehe Actually.. BMC= cow dog... Maybe a help dog on hogs Cats= cull (most of the time) I feed one of each, so Mine must be the exception Cur dog= hog dog (preferably Black or Red!!! ) thanks for reminding me...I was thinking of trying another one |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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TShelly
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2012, 01:00:56 pm » |
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I've owned a kemmer mountain cur that treed early naturally and made the transition to hogs fine. Lots of hunt and independence but she was extremely mouthy. Even so before a track was found.. I have seen good mountain cur hog dogs.
The same with BMC's. I've seen good an bad.
Don't choose based on a breed, you should find proven hog dogs that do wht you want a dog to do and get pups from them, regardless of breed
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2012, 01:04:10 pm » |
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Plotts are the best all around hog dog. they are a cold nose dog and rough and bay tight when needed to
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2012, 02:03:32 pm » |
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I've owned a kemmer mountain cur that treed early naturally and made the transition to hogs fine. Lots of hunt and independence but she was extremely mouthy. Even so before a track was found.. I have seen good mountain cur hog dogs.
The same with BMC's. I've seen good an bad.
Don't choose based on a breed, you should find proven hog dogs that do wht you want a dog to do and get pups from them, regardless of breed
probably the fastest way to get a good hog dog pack going...no restrictions no limitations... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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RyanTBH
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2012, 02:14:03 pm » |
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I've owned a kemmer mountain cur that treed early naturally and made the transition to hogs fine. Lots of hunt and independence but she was extremely mouthy. Even so before a track was found.. I have seen good mountain cur hog dogs.
The same with BMC's. I've seen good an bad.
Don't choose based on a breed, you should find proven hog dogs that do wht you want a dog to do and get pups from them, regardless of breed
probably the fastest way to get a good hog dog pack going...no restrictions no limitations... I agree... we have a little bit of all of those breeds in our packs, and they all seem to do their job. They are surely right about finding out what suits you, and what you like in a dog though. Once you find that out it will be easier for you to make your choice. It takes a lot of work putting together a good hog dog pack that will find and stop hogs, and in my experience, you never really stop adding and changing dogs around. It's a constant learning process. Find out what you need and get it first, and then get what you want... JMO |
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