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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2012, 10:09:39 pm »

I just thought it was crazy that one cop almost ran over the other officer getting out of car!!
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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2012, 10:41:34 pm »

i highley suspect that the last thing on those officers' minds are how they are going to look on camera when the smoke clears.

that situation could have been handled a thousand different ways including how it was handled.
it could of have had as many different outcomes.
judgement, training, and experience in the field is what determines those outcomes.
you do not gain judgement and experience in situations like these without partaking in them.
which is why there are cameras installed. when the smoke clears, superiors reveiw the situation and decide wether or not it was handled accordingly.  the men that did well get a pat on the back. the men that did not do so well get reprimanded, retrained, or fired.

i'd bet the dog handler falls in the latter of those two catagories.


Well said. I hope your right...
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2012, 11:15:08 pm »

hell when training a dog you gotta show it some fur every now and then  Grin  Grin Evil
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2012, 12:13:37 am »

If you give respect you shall receive respect ,obviously ole boy had none

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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2012, 04:32:27 am »

the media only showed the part of the incident they wqnted to.  Not enough footage to make a decesion if it was my job.  I think it only becomes excessive, after he sumits, he never did, from what I saw.  What we probally didnt see was him run threw a school cross walk, indangering children, ect.  What if he had gotten away and ran and killed someone inocent?  Then the officers would have not used enough force to contain him!
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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2012, 07:42:49 am »

Damn "Law dogs".  Definatle took that one too far.  They think they can do what ever they want.  Its not a question if the criminal deserved it or not.  He most likely did.  Its a matter of police not being above the law, and thinking they can do as they please just because they have a badge.

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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2012, 10:09:03 am »

hell when training a dog you gotta show it some fur every now and then  Grin  Grin Evil
LOL, thats what i was thinkin. You learn by doing. Grin
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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2012, 10:45:47 am »

   DAMNED if you Do and DAMNED if you DONT  ! ! ! ! ! !   

So what some of you liberalist are saying is that a  " Suspect " is completely innocent , even after shooting at the police, driving at very high rates of speed through neighborhoods with children playing, Blasting through intersections in which your or someone elses wifes, children or grand children are traveling, All of which he done in view of several officer. Of course he is Innocent , Whatever ! ! ! ! Only because he has allegedly committed a crime prior to this , maybe robbed a convient store and held a pistol to your daughter or wifes head or broke into " YOUR " home and stole everything you have worked all your life for.  Then after this high speed pursuit ( in which NONE of the police officers saw any of because the SKUMBAG is still innocent ) he is still attempting to get up and resisting he should be handed the hand cuffs and ASKED to PLEASE PUT THESE ON YOURSELF , and if he doesnt then just let him walk away because he is INNOCENT .   Come on now I know y'all have more sence than to even think this way . 

I will say The dog was NOT nessaccary .  If it were me I would have wrapped his ass up in a LA County choke hold and I promise you in about 5 seconds he would have been cuffed. I kinda have a saying  " WHERE THE HEAD GOES THE BODY WILL FOLLOW "

If you act this way you should EXPECT to be treated this way ! ! ! ! ! !   
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2012, 11:11:52 am »

Yes he was clearly a criminal, yes he clearly offended every officer out there. Yes he may have endangered countless lives, but when he was surrounded by fifteen officers and he was on the ground he no longer needed to be bitten or punched continuosly in the face. After he is on the ground he can be subdued rather easily and pain free. I am a martial artist and have been training for nearly 12 years, if i was to apply the amount of force those officers applied after my opponent taped, consider my ass fined out the wazoo for unsportsmanlike conduct, just like these police should be thrown out for un cop like conduct. We depend on these cops when were in danger and it would feel good if they stayed within there rights and not punish people they see commit crimes because that is NOT THE TYPE OF JUDICIAL SYSTEM we have in the USA. Cops arrest people using what force is necessary and then they get there punishment from a judge, their "power" stops there, alot of these cops feel unimportant because people verbally abuse them so they get anger and go on power trips, all i have to say is that people who are affected so easily by others immature antics should have no right to hold a badge, you need to be a well collected individual imo. I showed this video to my mother(lawyer) and she said the only thing that was wrong was the uncontrolled dog attack, with that being said that dog could cost the city millions depending on who that person was, personally HE MOST LIKELY DESERVED WHAT HE GOT, im not fighting that but i could definitely see the loose control these cops had over their emotions and i could see them loosing control over a much more minor situation. Also that dog has a high prey drive and is completely uncontrolled. Where was his release command if, he's gunna where a badge he better be a little better trained then a pitbull from the ghetto with only a bite command and no letgo. The cops were simply embarrassed and upset that the perp held his ground for so long. So that was their way of saying bad boy, when in reality he should have just been hit with 25 more felony charges that now because of the cops stupid self punishing actions could and should get dropped.
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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2012, 04:11:13 pm »

hey all i gotta say is you cant mess with SC  Evil

cutter i told you not to make me chase you
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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2012, 12:25:07 am »

After already firing shots at officers there is no telling what this guy was willing to do. The dog being put on bite may not have been the best thing for the other LEOs but it was probably necessary. The fact is shots were fired and this scumbag had his hands under his body, which is a damn good place to conceal a gun, and wouldn't place them behind his back or even at his side. The dog was/is just another tool used to gain compliance and in this situation seemed to work pretty well.
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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2012, 09:34:47 am »

   DAMNED if you Do and DAMNED if you DONT  ! ! ! ! ! !   

So what some of you liberalist are saying is that a  " Suspect " is completely innocent , even after shooting at the police, driving at very high rates of speed through neighborhoods with children playing, Blasting through intersections in which your or someone elses wifes, children or grand children are traveling, All of which he done in view of several officer. Of course he is Innocent , Whatever ! ! ! ! Only because he has allegedly committed a crime prior to this , maybe robbed a convient store and held a pistol to your daughter or wifes head or broke into " YOUR " home and stole everything you have worked all your life for.  Then after this high speed pursuit ( in which NONE of the police officers saw any of because the SKUMBAG is still innocent ) he is still attempting to get up and resisting he should be handed the hand cuffs and ASKED to PLEASE PUT THESE ON YOURSELF , and if he doesnt then just let him walk away because he is INNOCENT .   Come on now I know y'all have more sence than to even think this way . 

I will say The dog was NOT nessaccary .  If it were me I would have wrapped his ass up in a LA County choke hold and I promise you in about 5 seconds he would have been cuffed. I kinda have a saying  " WHERE THE HEAD GOES THE BODY WILL FOLLOW "

If you act this way you should EXPECT to be treated this way ! ! ! ! ! !   

Spot on Marvin. I agree with every word you posted.
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2012, 08:20:15 pm »

i think they handled that crack head very well. still think they should use an AB for a catch dog instead of a danged ole german shepard......

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« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2012, 12:55:46 pm »

i think they handled that crack head very well. still think they should use an AB for a catch dog instead of a danged ole german shepard......


 i was told they use them cause they pretty much chew as they are biting you an work  you long enough for the others to come outta nowhere an spear you an all that neat stuff
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« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2012, 09:21:44 pm »

i would have to agree with the pros n cons of force used. police are charged with protecting the citizens, but protecting thierselves aswell as thier fellows officers. i personally think that if 4 fat a$$ deputies cant subdue 1 man, then they made to get into a better physical shape and using a dog while the person is down is a little chicken poop. i do agree, if you run, be prepared to pay the price, but the cops shoulda used better judgement. its a toss up of 50/50 on brutality, and nesessity. they should be suspended with out pay till an internal inquery is held and finalized, but the suspect should be charged to the fullest extent of the law. police are there to uphold the law, not abuse or break the law. it shouldnt be a do as i say, not as i do mentality with leos
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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2012, 11:29:57 pm »

After already firing shots at officers there is no telling what this guy was willing to do. The dog being put on bite may not have been the best thing for the other LEOs but it was probably necessary. The fact is shots were fired and this scumbag had his hands under his body, which is a damn good place to conceal a gun, and wouldn't place them behind his back or even at his side. The dog was/is just another tool used to gain compliance and in this situation seemed to work pretty well.

Spot on, but unless you are the one who's placed in these types of situations regularly you don't notice things like the location of his hands..... I came an eylash away from paying the ultimate price due to not using enough force once....won't happen again!
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« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2012, 05:56:56 am »

The camera is what get them in trouble. Yes he derserves what he got , just dont show the whole world.
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