Facebook!

[bailey508]

Texaslacy- you don't know what you are talking about. You use a lot of big words, but you speak gibberish. You are caught up in a common misconception that game wardens have so much power. Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news to you, but they don't. They don't have any more power than any other police officer anywhere else. They are bound and restricted by the US Constitution just like the rest of us. Even hunters have civil rights that are illegal to violate. And yes I am a police officer and have been for a long time and guess what. It IS illegal to shoot across a fence line. And yes, with the growing popularity of deer farms in the State of Texas, YOU and everyone else can OWN DEER. That makes it your property. Statue defines stealing as "depriving someone of their property". If you kill a deer that belongs to a rancher. You stole it. And yes its a felony. Go pick you up a Texas Trophy Hunter magazine and check the prices of these deer you can BUY in the classifieds then you would understand why people get so upset.

Also, imminent domain, read up on that.

Oh yeah one more thing. It IS against the law here in Texas to see, know of, or have information on a crime that has been committed and not report it.

[Bryant]

They don't have any more power than any other police officer anywhere else.

Not necessarily correct.  Not sure about other states, but in Texas Game Wardens are commissioned officers just like any other law enforcement with full powers of arrest for any violation, however they retain the right to enter a residence without warrant if reasonable suspicion of a game law violation exists.  In addition, wardens also have full state jurisdiction.

[bailey508]

They cannot enter your residence on reasonable suspicion alone. They have to have probable cause just like the rest of us. Every police officer has statewide jurisdiction as of 2005. They are bound to an area by departmental policies.

Also, we (and game wardens) are even more restricted on the search and seizure laws as of a 2010 supreme court ruling that was brought forth by some stupid new mexico officers that decided to exceed and abuse their authority.

[TexasLacy]

Texas penal code, as an Leo I would've expected you to know this already.


§ 31.03. THEFT.
(a) A person commits an offense if he unlawfully appropriates property with intent to deprive the owner of property.


And, no, an individual cannot own a deer in Texas.

You, good sir, speak ignorant gibberish. How can you uphold the law if you don't even know the law?

[R.ScHmIdT]

Can you explain?  The definition you quoted doesn't say a thing about owning a deer or not.  Or is that just something you have been told.  Just curious. 

[TexasLacy]

Let me get in front of a computer and off of my phone and I will post proposed hbills that have failed from land owners attempting to make deer personal property.

[deepforkhoghunter]

I'm sure Texas and Oklahoma has totally different laws, do what you gotta do!

[TexasLacy]

It is illegal to possess any wild animal who naturally lives in the state (ie., squirrels, crows, deer) unless you are transporting the animal to a licensed wildlife rehabilitator for care. It is illegal to provide rehabilitation to a sick, injured or orphaned wild animal without proper permits and licenses.

Senate bill sb-1504 and house bill hb-2901 were both proposed legislation allowing the private ownership of Texas state deer.

Here's an interesting article to read that is concerning the point I have been trying to make.  

It even has pretty pictures to look at  

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Who-owns-all-deer-in-Texas-You-may-be-surprised-111499214.html

[TexasLacy]

I'm sure Texas and Oklahoma has totally different laws, do what you gotta do!

I am quite sure that they do. I believe in Oklahoma, you have to own a licence in order to farm deer. 

But that was not the question I was answering.  I thought we had settled the matter of who what where and when concerning the case you were posting about.  Most recently, Bailey508 (who is a self professed law enforcement officer) was making false statement about Texas law which I (hopefully) have made understood to be incorrect information, and also at the same time helped to educate him and others by providing correct and truly factual information.

[TexasLacy]

Also, imminent domain, read up on that.

Legal definition of eminent domain; The power to take private property for public use by a state, municipality, or private person or corporation authorized to exercise functions of public character, following the payment of just compensation to the owner of that property.

maybe you should have read up on it before you decided to post.

[deepforkhoghunter]

I thought we did too, didn't know if you were talking to me or bailey508.

[Kessling Kennels]

Texaslacy-  Im not in the hunt but Im curious why I have to pay the state of texas for a breeders permit each yr in order to raise and own Whitetail deer in the state of texas If I do not own them?

Im with everyone else , If someone shoots across my fence and I catch them there wont be any law enforcement called I promiss!

[Jared H.]

TexasLacy, I thought you ended this post a few posts back with your quote from Tony Montana.  Its getting old. You feel your right and seemingly everyone else thinks your wrong.  

[ETHHunters]

The only whitetail deer you own is the one hanging on your fireplace!

[TexasLacy]

Texaslacy-  Im not in the hunt but Im curious why I have to pay the state of texas for a breeders permit each yr in order to raise and own Whitetail deer in the state of texas If I do not own them?

Im with everyone else , If someone shoots across my fence and I catch them there wont be any law enforcement called I promiss!

I couldn't tell you the answer to that, if it was my money I was giving to them, I would make dern sure what exactly I was paying for.

TexasLacy, I thought you ended this post a few posts back with your quote from Tony Montana.  Its getting old. You feel your right and seemingly everyone else thinks your wrong.  

Because of the simple fact that I AM right, and it seems that every time I turn around there is some yahoo posting their own cockamamie idea on what the laws are.  Unfortunately, I am not the kind of person to concede or surrender.  ESPECIALLY when there have been personal attacks made against my character and integrity.  Just because the majority of posters on this thread share an opinion opposite of mine does not make that consensual opinion the right one, and because I stand alone, does not mean that I am wrong.  It is quite the opposite actually.  I have made a clear, valid and concise point with references and specific cases and failed (house and senate) bills proving the illegality of wildlife ownership in Texas.  But still, I face an opposition of which contains an overwhelming majority of people who stand unwavering.  And, that is fine, I does not mind a debate, but you asked why I have not stopped posting here, and the answer to that is this;  Unfortunately, for you it seems, as "Its getting old."  This is America, and I can.

[Jared H.]

You might have some facts and laws to post to help with your opinion but it seems like your moral compass might need to be calibrated.

[TexasLacy]

You might have some facts and laws to post to help with your opinion but it seems like your moral compass might need to be calibrated.

Because I didn't jump on the holier than thou bandwagon?  Right is right, wrong is wrong.  Period.  Happy?

[Mike]

TexasLacy, your smart a$$ is about to be shown the door... I'd suggest you drop it and move on.

[R.ScHmIdT]

That's what unwashed looking for Texas lacy thanks. I'm still not on your side but it probably cleared up a lot of misunderstandings.

[hogdoggintn]

That's what unwashed looking for Texas lacy thanks.