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« on: February 07, 2012, 05:44:44 pm »

Back in rifle season of 2011, my wife was driving on the turner turnpike and saw a older man driving, with a huge buck in the back of his truck. She took a picture to show me how big he was. A couple days later we saw on Facebook, that a deer was shot from outside of a local hunting ranch. The person that told us about it had a decriptsion of the truck but no license plate number. I was thinking about it and like a light bulb the picture my wife took. We went over to the ranch owners place showed them the picture. And it was their deer!!! The game wardens went to the mans house wrote a big ticket and took back the antlers. Sure happy for Facebook, cause without it we probably wouldn't have got to help our neighbors out!!
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 06:31:37 pm »

you've never took a deer by other than legal means?  Maybe you felt right about it, but I see that as snitching.  I wouldn't have turned them in, but thats just the way I see it.  Game wardens already have too much jurisdiction and power, and I don't think they need any more help.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 06:36:53 pm »

how was it proved to be the same deer ?  was it dna tested ?

i agree game wardens have more authority than the pope  Angry
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 07:06:34 pm »

Really??? What if you paid for the deer, the feed, the management methods, the property maintenance etc... Would you want this good samaritan to help you get another thug out the woods or let him continue to trespass and kill your animals? I will be the first to admit that I am not perfect but wrong is wrong. I try my damnedest to do what is right and may slip up, but blatantly shooting through a fence at a deer is stupidity at its best and deserves to be caught!
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 07:11:47 pm »

Really??? What if you paid for the deer, the feed, the management methods, the property maintenance etc... Would you want this good samaritan to help you get another thug out the woods or let him continue to trespass and kill your animals? I will be the first to admit that I am not perfect but wrong is wrong. I try my damnedest to do what is right and may slip up, but blatantly shooting through a fence at a deer is stupidity at its best and deserves to be caught!
x2 do yall not know how much money those deer cost that's just another form of stealing
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 07:13:53 pm »

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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 07:18:22 pm »

  Theft is just that stealing. Wonder if they will steal something else? We have a moral problem in this country.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 07:29:37 pm »

To the second and third posters,,, if someone steals one of your dogs, dont get upset, i mean, hasnt everyone , at one time or another, come across a good strike dog by less than legal means,,,,, sin,,,, is,,,,, sin,,,,, and stealing is stealing,,,
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 07:50:31 pm »

was it an exotic?  If it wasn't, then he did not steal anything.
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 08:02:18 pm »

 Could be reading it wrong, but looks like some outside the ranch shot into the ranch and harvested the ranch's deer without permission or payment, if thats how it went down, i'd call it stealing, poaching, illegal,,, etc
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 08:04:56 pm »

If it was inside the fence it doesn't matter if it was exotic or not
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 08:15:18 pm »

Now, I am not entering into a petty argument over this.  BUT if it was an indigenous animal, then it belongs to the State of Texas.  It is my understanding through a little research that yes, you can high fence an area, yes you can purchase and transport and breed and innoculate deer inside of this high fence, but own them you cannot.  Firing a weapon from a road, across a road, or within so many feet from a road is illegal.  Trespassing is illegal.  Unless the animal in question was an exotic, it was NOT stolen.  It would be mighty hard to prove without dna that the animal shot, was raised by that ranch. 
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 08:26:10 pm »

you've never took a deer by other than legal means?  Maybe you felt right about it, but I see that as snitching.  I wouldn't have turned them in, but thats just the way I see it.  Game wardens already have too much jurisdiction and power, and I don't think they need any more help.

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 08:32:32 pm »

Now, I am not entering into a petty argument over this.  BUT if it was an indigenous animal, then it belongs to the State of Texas.  It is my understanding through a little research that yes, you can high fence an area, yes you can purchase and transport and breed and innoculate deer inside of this high fence, but own them you cannot.  Firing a weapon from a road, across a road, or within so many feet from a road is illegal.  Trespassing is illegal.  Unless the animal in question was an exotic, it was NOT stolen.  It would be mighty hard to prove without dna that the animal shot, was raised by that ranch. 

It was stolen because the rancher with the high fence can decide who hunts there.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 09:05:58 pm »

Now, I am not entering into a petty argument over this.  BUT if it was an indigenous animal, then it belongs to the State of Texas.  It is my understanding through a little research that yes, you can high fence an area, yes you can purchase and transport and breed and innoculate deer inside of this high fence, but own them you cannot.  Firing a weapon from a road, across a road, or within so many feet from a road is illegal.  Trespassing is illegal.  Unless the animal in question was an exotic, it was NOT stolen.  It would be mighty hard to prove without dna that the animal shot, was raised by that ranch. 

It was stolen because the rancher with the high fence can decide who hunts there.

It was taken illegally I'm sure, if the Game Warden wrote a ticket.  But, you are arguing semantics here. And, I assure you, you are wrong.  You cannot steal something from someone if they do not own it.  In any capacity.

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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2012, 09:36:55 pm »

Texaslacy, let me throw a hypothetical situation at you, as I am just  curious.

Say you've got a buddy who has a 1000 acre deer lease, which he has exclusive hunting rights to. He has 3 yrs of trail cam pics of  a 170inch double drop tine buck. He has set feeders and planted food plots with the hopes of getting this deer. One day you just happen to be driving by your buddies lease and see a truck pulling out with that deer in the back.

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your not going to call your buddy or a warden since your buddy doesn't own the deer and you don't want to be a snitch? Just curious.

And not that it matters, but I believe the original poster is from Oklahoma.
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2012, 09:39:18 pm »

Sorry bout the quote in there. Typing on my phone, not sure how that got there.
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2012, 09:52:11 pm »

It probably matters a lot as that is a different state. I'm not arguing that it's wrong, I am simply campaigning for proper vernacular to be used. And, no, I would not alert the authorities in your hypothetical situation. I would however, gather pertinent information to reveal to my buddy to use in whatever way he deemed suitable to handle the situation.

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Marines I see as two breeds, Rottweilers or Dobermans, because Marines come in two varieties, big and mean, or skinny and mean. They're aggressive on the attack and tenacious on defense. They've got really short hair and they always go for the throat.
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2012, 10:03:52 pm »

I'm not arguing that it's wrong, I am simply campaigning for proper vernacular to be used.


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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2012, 10:32:35 pm »

It probably matters a lot as that is a different state. I'm not arguing that it's wrong, I am simply campaigning for proper vernacular to be used. And, no, I would not alert the authorities in your hypothetical situation. I would however, gather pertinent information to reveal to my buddy to use in whatever way he deemed suitable to handle the situation.



so..... you WOULD snitch?... LMAO

"you've never took a deer by other than legal means?  Maybe you felt right about it, but I see that as snitching.  I wouldn't have turned them in, but thats just the way I see it.  Game wardens already have too much jurisdiction and power, and I don't think they need any more help".
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