Plotts?

[Wmwendler]

Not trying to start chit just curious.  Any of you boys from Alabama, Arkansas, N. Louisiana, Tenn. that hunt behind hounds ever tried a good Cur dog on hogs?  Reason I ask is because it seems like the attitude in that region for the most part is you need a hound to hunt hogs over there, because the hogs are not very prevalent.  But how do you explain the cur dogs that get the job done in those parts day in and day out.  I recently hunted with a guy from Ark. that has a cur dog out of Texas stock that gets it done in style.  Also, I know Chainrated on here uses Cur dogs and catches lots of hogs in tough country in Alabama thats not loaded with hogs.  Just curious if yall have ever seen a good Cur dog work?  It sure beats hunting behind hounds unless thats just what you are into.

Waylon
 

[BarrNinja]

Well now. This ought to be an interesting thread. 

[firemedic]

Waylon I've lived in Bama all my life,.....I hunt with buddies from Bama, TN and GA. I was a hound man from the start and still love to hunt with 'em. I now have 2 cur dogs, one is a cur/fiest cross the other half Plott half Catahoula. The cur/fiest is the best hog dog I've ever had.....and probably ever will have. Most of my TN buddies have hounds, mostly Plotts that are of course open on track. I hunt my silent curs with their hounds and have for over 3 years now....my dogs still don't open on track and theirs still do.....simple as that. My cur dogs go with their hounds and vice versa....they form a pretty good pack seems to me. I can hunt my dogs alone and kill hogs, done it before and will again. One reason that the guys from around here use hounds is that's what they've always used and always will. Hunting in the mountains is different I agree, but if your curs have a good nose and will run a hog for some time if need be, they'll do just fine here. You are right that the hogs here, that being north AL and East TN, aren't as numerous as in TX and some other states. I think that's why folks here have always used hounds as you stated,...they've been bred to hunt the mountains and find hogs that are few and far between. Now, having said that, I also think that most folks around here have never hunted with a cur that had a super cold nose and would trail a hog or bear from quite some time before they finally jumped it, and then run it for quite some time as well.

  I just don't think that those kind of cur dogs have been seen around here in the past. Out west, they seem to have used curs since they are a better multi-purpose dog than a hound. We don't do as much cow work in the SE as they do in TX is what I'm saying I reckon, so hounds have been used more here than cur dogs in the past, but that's changing I think.

  I know some guys would stroke if they we asked to hunt their silent dogs with open hounds, and I can understand that. But,.....as I mature... ....I find myself being less and less concerned with whether a dog barks on track or not, I don't want a dog with endless bottom,....had that and done with it. I JUST WANT TO HUNT AND HAVE FUN......simple as that. So if my silent curs open on track next trip, so be it. I won't lose one minutes sleep over it. I hunt with good friends that just want to have fun as well. Hope that kinda helps answer your question bud.

[LAhunter222]

I'm from central LA and I hunt mostly curs and they get the job done I have a plott gyp but she is silent. Most of the guys I hunt with are all cur dogs just the way it is round here!

[halfbreed]

well i am not from the hills but i can most than likely assure you that they feel the same as me , in the fact that there is nothing more soothing to the soul than sittin down and listening to a good long and beutifull race on a cool foggy morning . stuff like that just eases the mind and replenishes the body , making all the hard work and dissapointments in life melt away . a good cup of coffee , warm fire , and beutifull music coming from the bottoms . ain't nothing better . try it sometimes and you wont be worried bout such things

[Wmwendler]

I have and it does not suit me.  I like to bay hogs not chase them. 2 each thier own though.

BUT...the question is not for people who hunt with hounds because they like them.  Its for people who hunt with hounds because they think they need them due to low hog populations. 

Waylon

[Beaucephus]

Personally.  I say.  Show me a cur that has a nose like my hound and I'd take the cur.  We just don't have access to many of them in the hills.    If it has a good nose I don't care what it is.  Just happens that most of the dogs in this part of country with good noses are hounds.   

You texans keep breeding those curs with cold noses and maybe they will work their way north and east.

[monroes dogs]

i hunt alot of hounds from plotts to red ticks . i have also hunt cur dogs i love to hear the race . i have put cur dogs out on tracks and them not take it then turn a young hound loose on it and him take it no problem . not saying that cur dogs want hunt  but i dont have a problem baying and catching hogs with my hounds and i dont have to sneek into the bay and worry about making some racket getin in there.. just sayin

                            ..Drew

[Wmwendler]

i hunt alot of hounds from plotts to red ticks . i have also hunt cur dogs i love to hear the race . i have put cur dogs out on tracks and them not take it then turn a young hound loose on it and him take it no problem . not saying that cur dogs want hunt  but i dont have a problem baying and catching hogs with my hounds and i dont have to sneek into the bay and worry about making some racket getin in there.. just sayin

                            ..Drew

 

So you hunt hounds because you are not very good at sneaking?

Waylon

[monroes dogs]

no  what i was sayin is u here alot of peopple talkin about how they made the hog break because he heard them coming but i like hunting both breads  hounds and curs

[arrowbar]

I use plotts because they have the nose to pound the dust around here. I have tried all kinds of dogs, hounds, terriers and curs and have had the absolute best luck hunting behind these plotts. They were and are the most consistent of any dog I have tried. I have had some great dogs in the other breeds but the plotts have been my best fit.

[firemedic]

I use plotts because they have the nose to pound the dust around here. I have tried all kinds of dogs, hounds, terriers and curs and have had the absolute best luck hunting behind these plotts. They were and are the most consistent of any dog I have tried. I have had some great dogs in the other breeds but the plotts have been my best fit.

And when he says 'dust'......he means it. One of the driest places I've ever been.

[txhogsanddogs]

I'm a firm beleiver in my currs and that's whatI'm sticking with due to keeping the woods silent as well.  The hunters have started this in Texas due to lack of bottom and we usually have to hunt silent dogs in my parts or the hogs will be 5 miles byt the time you catch up to them.  Saying that if i did live in other parts of the world which i have (i guided cat hunts outside of Cody, Wy) i would hunt a plott.  Thats all we hunted on lions and i know for a fact my cold nose currs wouldn't even have started most of the tracks we ran in those mountains and extreme conditions.  I sure wouldn't invite THillbilly to my country but i would sure love to go to his and hunt behind those hounds of his!  I love hearing that from time to time just not in the woods i hunt. 

I'm a curr dog man thru and thru but to your question, I'm a firm beleiver that your couldn't breed a curr to what a Plott has if that answers your question.  JMO

[tnhillbilly]

Well ive tried several curs up here, and it just don't work, period. Sure, you might catch one every once in a while if you know exactly where the pigs are. See, that there is the problem, up here they are few and far between, and there ain't no catching 10 hogs a day, you got to have a dog that will get out and HUNT a track, and have a cold enough nose to trail them up if you can even find sign to put them on.
  After walking countless miles day after day, and no hogs gets old fast.
And not to mention, all these "good" cold nosed get out and hunt cur dogs I keep hearing about, well.......they are top secret and not available to the public. 

[got2catchem]

I'm just curious to what type of range (hunting out, not on track) some of you hound guys are getting out of your dogs?

[arrowbar]

as long as it takes

[sfboarbuster]

I just don't believe I would hog hunt if I lived somewhere where I needed a hound. South Florida has me spoiled I guess.

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[hoghunter71409]

I also live in Central, LA.  8 Years ago I started hog hunting.  My first Pack was all currs and one hound.  Today, my pack is all hound and one curr.  I can appreciate a good dog that hunts, no matter what color, size, shape or open mouth.  This past Sunday I was real lucky to find hog sign.  Cur dog (by herself) found bayed three hogs.  Caught the first one, rolled over caught the second one in 100 yards.  2 miles later, she ran the third one across the road.  I dumped my three plotts (all less than 2 years old).  7 miles later, my three plotts and my cur dog caught the third hog.  Oh by the way, my cur dog is 7 years old; she is the one cur dog left my original pack.  My pack works for me!  There are a lot of times when my curr dog just can't smell the track that my hounds can.  My cur dog gonna go 600-800 yards looking, then she comes back.  Once my plotts hit the ground, you have to go and get them, there aint no coming back!!!  So I have and do hunt with s good cur dog, but I like my hounds!  That is just me,

[charles]

Mr. Tom, sound like u boys up there need to implant a couple 1,000 head of hogs to help populate the area. 

[ARhogdogs]

Ill give my 2 cents. We have plenty of hogs to hunt here in arkansas. I haven't hunted much in tx so I don't really have a way to compare this huntin to yours. I have always preferred a hound cross over a cur. BUT...... If the dog will get out and hunt 700 to 900 yards its gonna find a hog where I turn cast em out eventually. They way you hunt your dogs also plays a big role in the question you are asking. Around here it is real hard to find a good line of curs. Don't get me wrong there are good ones and I have seen them, but they aren't what I call breeding material. They are kinda like that mutt you picked up off the road that turned into a hog dog. You don't know where it came from and it prolly wouldn't throw any kind of positive percentages into a breeding.

If I could find a good line of curs that would hunt out like I am talking and stand back and bay a 40 lb pig, built right around 40 lbs. I would go all in trying to get some of em. You just don't see it though so I will stick to what has put a bunch of pictures in my scrapbook and hunt these hound crosses.