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« on: February 13, 2012, 10:56:28 pm »

What is the major differences in different hound breeds when it comes to hog hunting such as Plott, Treeing Walkers , Running Walkers, Blue Ticks, Red Ticks, Red Bones and more.  What have yall seen that makes each one different from the other ,  other than color?

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2012, 11:26:09 pm »

when you take color away from the treeing hounds you have to go by individual strains as you can find all types of hounds in each breed, when you compare running to tree hounds you add more bottom and less treeing instinct to the hounds and sometimes a bit less nose
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2012, 11:30:38 pm »

where to start ? i guess with the plotts wich in my day [sorry boys] plotts was CUR DOGS till they left the hills and the coon hunters got ahold of em . you can still find a silent runnin plott now and again my ol gyp was the more cur type plott and tight mouthed all the cross pups is tight mouthed . but any way the plotts was runnin bear and boar since they hit the shores of america  several hundred years ago so they was bred to hunt hogs and  bear . i don't care for the tree dogs on hog cause they tend to be more open mouthed . except for here lately the comp. hunters prefer semi open dogs . now the runnin hounds are more better for pork in my opinion because they tend to be a little more on the semi to tight mouthed till the game is jumped then it's too late cause they will stay on it's butt till stopped . blue ticks we shall make a determination on shortly when i get mine and one of her cross pups to the woods  Grin but within each breed of hounds you will find that some individuals are identical in traits just not breed or color , bout like differant breeds of curs are the same in style . this is just my good guesstimation of ya questination  Grin  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2012, 11:44:26 pm »

when you take color away from the treeing hounds you have to go by individual strains as you can find all types of hounds in each breed, when you compare running to tree hounds you add more bottom and less treeing instinct

I pretty much agree .....
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 01:03:16 am »

X2, plotts used to be plotts, but like halfbreed said they trying to make coondogs out of them, and the Coon bred plotts that ive seen have no gritt. As a whole the walkers are lacking in the grit dept also, but have the speed. The redone and black and tans vary considerably depending on strains, more nose, less speed, average grit.
But I have to agree, take away the color and their all the same, except the plott. You will find a gritty one here and there, some more than others, but as a whole the plotts have been bred for grit from the start, not just run Chase and tree.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 07:14:36 am »

You can go to coondawgs.com and they have a little history of the different hound breeds.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 08:32:41 am »

As a whole the walkers are lacking in the grit dept also, but have the speed

Well that confirms this cross.  Walker x Bulldog Cross a combanation of speed and grit.
I got a buddy that swears by this cross and he has some hum dinger's'.  He says it has to be Treeing Walkers not Running Walkers that are used.

I kinda knew that was the deal I also know other folks that love this cross.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 08:43:49 am »

where to start ? i guess with the plotts wich in my day [sorry boys] plotts was CUR DOGS till they left the hills and the coon hunters got ahold of em . you can still find a silent runnin plott now and again my ol gyp was the more cur type plott and tight mouthed all the cross pups is tight mouthed

This here is why I use the Plott crosses in my lines.  I have seen the Pocahanttas line crossed great dogs in my buddys dogs and I owned two and I use myself the
 Sizzlin Heat / Alabama Hammer .   I was a little worried about the Pocahanttas crossed but they have now come on and are really lightin up the woods in a big big way and the Sizzlin Heat/Alabama Hammer cross is just as good this cross here is what my Horn dog is Half Heat/Hammer on my blood and he is my main Find Dog.

Both when cross have some good grit not to much not to less , both are tight mouthed, both have bottom, both are fast as hell,  good wind , good staminia all in all it has worked out great for myself and my buddy.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 02:00:00 pm »

i hunt hounds on bear an hogs and i hunt treeing walkers and english dogs,just got me sum pups out of good bluetick stock that i have high hopes for.the only problem i have with my hounds are they are to gritty,i mean they are way rougher than i wont them to b.nearly every hound i have owned is to gritty.people think that hounds r not ruff or gritty but they have plenty of gritt. i mean they will go toe to toe with bears,mount lions,bobcats or watever there after.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 11:55:41 pm »

It is rare to find a hound that will back down, and when you do 9/10 its because they were whipped by the game because they were ofter put on game to early
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2012, 04:42:26 pm »

IMO, plotts shouldn't quit, no matter their age, thats what sets them apart from every other breed.
     I start feeding mine bear tracks at 7-8 months old, if they get whooped out they don't stay. Ive had them get hurt and quit, but they go right back.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 05:17:58 pm »

I always here how tough and gritty plotts are, I've owned about 5 or 6 they didn't seem any tougher than a walker to me, none took cuts or bites any better?. Maybe I just ain't owned enough yet to see the big difference.
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 05:26:56 pm »

What is the major differences in different hound breeds when it comes to hog hunting such as Plott, Treeing Walkers , Running Walkers, Blue Ticks, Red Ticks, Red Bones and more.  What have yall seen that makes each one different from the other ,  other than color?


Maybe you havent had any big game bred plots. Huh? I dont know, because i have never owned a plott. I have owned plenty of (walCurs)  Evil though... When it comes to coondogs im an English man myself.

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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2012, 05:28:25 pm »

^^^^^^Sorry  I meant to quote waylon. I sure do miss that edit button 
I always here how tough and gritty plotts are, I've owned about 5 or 6 they didn't seem any tougher than a walker to me, none took cuts or bites any better?. Maybe I just ain't owned enough yet to see the big difference.
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 05:35:28 pm »

What is the major differences in different hound breeds when it comes to hog hunting such as Plott, Treeing Walkers , Running Walkers, Blue Ticks, Red Ticks, Red Bones and more.  What have yall seen that makes each one different from the other ,  other than color?


Maybe you havent had any big game bred plots. Huh? I dont know, because i have never owned a plott. I have owned plenty of (walCurs)  Evil though... When it comes to coondogs im an English man myself.



A English are just a walkers with blue tick added so they would tree  Grin
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A English are just a walkers with blue tick added so they would tree  Grin
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Sure....    I guess im a gonna have to break the news to him when i get home.... Hope he dont take it to hard LOL
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2012, 05:42:51 pm »



A English are just a walkers with blue tick added so they would tree  Grin

Sure....    I guess im a gonna have to break the news to him when i get home.... Hope he dont take it to hard LOL
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I wouldn't tell him .....if he finds out he could have walker in him he may commit suicide ha ha...

Just messing...looks like a good tree dog
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2012, 06:53:57 pm »

In my opinion any dog no matter what breed if he quits are comes out he gets cull around here.  I have had some mighty fine dogs back out when they got hurt pretty good that I thought would have never done that and I give them a second chance thats a big mistake because if they will do it once they will do it again and I aint taken no chances of that dog ending up life long here and me maybe breeding to  him and me not knowing if he will do it again so you do it once around here you are gone gone gone I dont give a damn how they are bred thats why I dont give no second chances no more.
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 07:03:23 pm »

In my opinion any dog no matter what breed if he quits are comes out he gets cull around here.  I have had some mighty fine dogs back out when they got hurt pretty good that I thought would have never done that and I give them a second chance thats a big mistake because if they will do it once they will do it again and I aint taken no chances of that dog ending up life long here and me maybe breeding to  him and me not knowing if he will do it again so you do it once around here you are gone gone gone I dont give a damn how they are bred thats why I dont give no second chances no more.
   Get an 1/8 th pit in ur strike dogs and they will do the trick just enough to keep them in but not catch till the catch dog does they'll never back out.
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