range definitions ?

[halfbreed]

i get confused reading some of ya'lls definitions of range . now  it's a 1/2 a mile from my house to the hyw. and that 1/2 a mile loop to me is what i call a medium range dog anything in between is a close working dog anything further is a long range dog . have i been wrong all these years ? some of you boys and girls talk like a close working dog is up your butt and you are tripping over them . to me a close working dog is withen a good 1/4 mile radiuse and it goes from there . ya'll help me out and lets here your definition of range on dogs

[TexasLacy]

short- in sight or easy hearing distance

med- 1/2-3/4 mile

long- 1 mile or better

now, I am saying this based on hunting.  All of mine had better run one further than that if need be.

[Mason]

To me a close ranging dog hunts out 150-200yds, a medium range is out 400-600yds, and long range is out 1000(+)yrds.  I'm not talking about running a track, I'm talking ranging out and circling back.  The dog that is stays up your butt isn't going to find as many hogs as the dogs that are ranging out. JMO

[R.ScHmIdT]

I'm in line with Mason

[TexasHogDogs]

Close 1/4  Mile - Medium 1/2 Mile - Long 1 mile and over .  This is out  hunting not trailing a hog.

[halfbreed]

yeah that pretty much in line with me and 'im talkin huntin for a hog not runnin it . if they runnin it they better go the distance or i'll sell um on the dog trade    P.S.  NO TRIAL !!

[jalston]

hunting   100---400  close
             400---800  med
             800   +      long

this does not mean my close range dog quits at 400 yards....he usually dont range out futher unless in sign or on a track, just my 2 cents

[MOhogger]

To me a close ranging dog hunts out 150-200yds, a medium range is out 400-600yds, and long range is out 1000(+)yrds.  I'm not talking about running a track, I'm talking ranging out and circling back.  The dog that is stays up your butt isn't going to find as many hogs as the dogs that are ranging out. JMO

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[TexasHogDogs]

yeah that pretty much in line with me and 'im talkin huntin for a hog not runnin it . if they runnin it they better go the distance or i'll sell um on the dog trade    P.S.  NO TRIAL !!

Lmao! LOL!!!!!!!!!

[Mason]

yeah that pretty much in line with me and 'im talkin huntin for a hog not runnin it . if they runnin it they better go the distance or i'll sell um on the dog trade    P.S.  NO TRIAL !!

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[reatj81]

Good old garmin has sure helped out this question.  It is now so easy to see how small or big of a circle they are making.  I def think lots of people get range and bottom mixed up!  And this can be hard to judge unless you hunt several times with a dog.  The other day I had one younger dog get out to .89 thought he may be bayed and looked at the map and realized he was still moving all over in about 100 yard area.  So im going to say he was hunting or working a cold track,  then after about 10 min he moved out in a straight line and lost him at 1.2 miles.  Had to drive around to where I lost him to pick him up again, and picked him up at 1.07mi  at this point imsure he had been there for 20min or so buy himself, We had to get in the truck and drive around the roads to him, i'm sure buy the time we had drove the weelers back to the truck, and threw 3 gates and around the county roads it took another 45 min or so.  managed to drive within about 300 yds, and could hear him bayed,  sent a nother young dog to him to help his confidence.  walked in and caught the lil boar weighed about 120.  So what im saying is I have no real way to say if this was range or bottom!  I hope they will make atleast a 300-400 yd circle, but im worried  way more about bottom, than the size of the circle they make!  and yes I agree with what youll have posted about range, being short, med, long.  Long is a real big word to live up to, so if I had to say I would think My dogs are pretty much short to medium range, but at 300-400 yards out its really hard to say if they are just hunting or can smell a cold track! And If they get out to 1mi and dont bay, and come back in, were they just hunting, or could they just not produce the track and lack the bottom to do so!  I dont no exactly what is happening that far out.  sometimes when they get out that far they produce pork , and sometimes they dont.  I have trailed these same dogs several miles, and they produced pork,  so I am hoping they are not lacking bottom, but I have no way to no for sure that far out.   There are so many things that can happed and so many variebels its hard to say.

Now my question.  Drive up on fresh looking sign and have three dogs leave in same direction and go 1mi and all bayed the moment they got there at the same time.  Is this short range?  to me it is short with a little bit of drive!  Im just guessing from what I have read on other post some would call this long range, I wouldnt!   

[brad s]

I also think some people get range and bottom confused bc my dogs stay within couple hundred yds til they smell pigs. And they will go 3-4 miles sometimes on a hog. Some people think that would b long range but I just think its short range with some bottom.

[Mason]

I also think some people get range and bottom confused bc my dogs stay within couple hundred yds til they smell pigs. And they will go 3-4 miles sometimes on a hog. Some people think that would b long range but I just think its short range with some bottom.

I agree 100%

[halfbreed]

yeah what we talkin about is range = how far they will go to FIND a track to run . bottom is how far they will run a hog till bayed . i was just askin cause so many people talk about long range dogs an short range dogs  yada yada yada . was wonderin what everybodys def of the ranges was ect ect. some will call a dog makin 1/2 mile circles lookin then check back in no sign this and some call it that . savy ?

[BigCutters4]

I think this. Range is the distance how far a dog hunts out looking for a hog or hog sign                                        bottom is how long a dog stays with a hog after the dog has jumped him                                              imo

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[BigCutters4]

yeah what we talkin about is range = how far they will go to FIND a track to run . bottom is how far they will run a hog till bayed . i was just askin cause so many people talk about long range dogs an short range dogs  yada yada yada . was wonderin what everybodys def of the ranges was ect ect. some will call a dog makin 1/2 mile circles lookin then check back in no sign this and some call it that . savy ?

. I beleive. 300 yd short 300 to 700 yds med 700 and up long .give or take a few yds in those ranges jmo

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[Mason]

yeah what we talkin about is range = how far they will go to FIND a track to run . bottom is how far they will run a hog till bayed . i was just askin cause so many people talk about long range dogs an short range dogs  yada yada yada . was wonderin what everybodys def of the ranges was ect ect. some will call a dog makin 1/2 mile circles lookin then check back in no sign this and some call it that . savy ?

I think this. Range is the distance how far a dog hunts out looking for a hog or hog sign                                        bottom is how long a dog stays with a hog after the dog has jumped him                                              imo

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Yep...And alot of the so called "short ranged" dogs are me too dogs or the type that you have to walk them over the top of hogs.   

[Reuben]

short range is quarter mile circle which is 200 yards in any one direction from the handler, medium range is 800 yard circle and 400 yards in any direction from the handler. this dog is covering most of the property inside this circle and can start a decent track from anywhere in this area. This dog stays consistent with the pattern as long as the handler is moving or until a track is started.

anything more than 800 yards is a long range dog and I consider this dog one that hunts more for itself and not the master...

[halfbreed]

ditto and i agree with ya rueben . i like for the dogs to hunt for me , not me hunt with them .  i think ol mister garmin plays too much as to how people hunt  dogs anymore seems before all these machines and technology dogs worked for the hunter and wouldn't leave the country without checkin in first . in my day anyway .

[TexasHogDogs]

Yuppers and I have seen a many of short - medium range dog make a long range dog look like a JackAss!  I have seen them long rangers blow out the box and people b saying wooo weee look at that sucker go man alive whata dog.  Next thing you know he is a mile out and my old short to med range dog just got finshed taken a dump and five mins later he is on a hog are a group of hogs now 250 yds out !!!!!!!!!


I have seen a ton of them marthon dogs pass up a ton of hogs on his way to his famous mile !

Lmao !