Game bred pits

[waylon-N.E. OK]

For those who have raised and/or owned Game bred pits can you give your opinion on there differences from your typical back yard pit bull . I'm going to be breeding a pointer to a pit for RCD's and wondered if it was worth it to find a true Game bred pit vs the other. By the way when I say back yard pit I'm not at all talking about what people are calling bullies or these ghetto stumpy mixed up dogs.

[rspivey]

The difference to me is that you are talking about a dog that was bred to have natural air,and is an athlete out of the box vs. dogs many people have come up with based on color,head size ect.... When I am talking about game bred I am talking about a dog that was at least out of parents that were used and proven not the ones that have one proven dog three or four generations back.

This is just my opinion,but I spent alot of my life around the type of dogs I am referring to. So to answer your question I believe even though you are considering crossing two seperate breeds I would look for the best specimans that I could find in each breed.

[SwampHunter]

game bred pits to me are leaner taller more leg , stamina , an drive they are working dogs not these short fat ones lol i know i know  i use a short fat blue pit as a CD but he does a good job lol just not enough leg as he should have

[TexasLacy]

I know there are game bred lines still alive and well, but I do not know about OK.  Around here, you have to know somebody, that knows somebody to even see the dogs themselves, and you may never get to see them "proven"

And, I'm not talking about the "Michael Vick, wastes of human flesh that torture maim and mutilate dogs for "fighting" purposes"  Dog fighting used to be a gentleman's sport, and in some places if you know the right people, you can still get access to game bred bulldogs that aren't out of proven stock, but are proven themselves.  And, you'd be surprised to see how different these pure game bred pits look from the big headed dog on a chain the rappers seem to be so proud of.

I do hope you find one breed worthy Waylon, bc I really do want one of the puppies.

[waylon-N.E. OK]

TexasLacy - What you say about getting up close on "real" game bred pits has been true so far. I've talked to 2 different folks who I was given contact info on this week. One said " Son you don't want or need one of these dogs " the other said " I wouldn't allow any of my dogs to be bred to a bird dog "  I tried to explain what the dogs would be used for and that I wouldn't be advertising there dog as the sire and both said nope. Contacted one guy here in Oklahoma on the www. and he wants $1000.00 stud fee.

[TexasLacy]

It is definitely a hard game to get into and you had best be dang sure you want in it before you do get in it.  Don't get me wrong, I am not a dogman, but I do know a thing or two, and I have seen how hard it is to get into.  Believe it or not, the right game, in the right circumstances, is not only condoned by the local law, but more often than not, you'll find yourself standing beside an officer.  But, it is one of them things where you go in on friday and come out on sunday.  There is no in and out back and forth.  And most of the people you'll deal with are ROUGH.  It's a high dollar game where the risks are high and the rewards are higher, and money motivates people in funny ways sometimes.  I am surprised though that the one feller wouldn't breed to a bird dog.  Was it a bird dog prejudice, or a breed purist I wonder??

Bottom line, move your yankee butt to east Texas and I can find you a stud.  Also, I wouldn't have to drive 4 days to get a pup.

 

[M Bennet]

i love a game bred pit wants hes taught to do his job. there their til hes dead

[makenbeans]

If I had a chance i would rather breed to a game bred dog.
But if your putting your standards so high on the pit I think you should do the same for the pointer.
We hunt quail and have several pointers that are worth breeding and some that are curs..
 

[hogdogger98]

I know a guy here in AR that has the real deal give me a call if you're interested and I will give you his info 501-428-4044

[waylon-N.E. OK]

Just to make it clear i'm not wanting one for any other purpose other than to breed to. i am focusing on the pointer female so far i'm super pleased with her. hogdogger98 thanks but Arkansas is to far due to my work, it will have to be a local dog so when she is in my buddy can haul her in case I'm out of pocket. TexasLacy You drive up here to God's Country you won't want to make the drive back and then you would have to change your user name to Okie-and loving it- lacy

[KevinN]

Texas Lacy and Waylon y'all sound like your right on! The definition I know for "game bred" has nothing to do with hogs. The true game bred dogs are hard to keep in the yard. I know they would catch a hog alone but you can't turn them loose around other dogs. I have talked to the same kinda folk, they actually wanted to sell me a dog from their line to see how it would do on hogs but after they told me about the dogs I decided it was going to be to much trouble. It would take multiple breedings to get the dog aggression out of the blood.

[TexasLacy]

And when you breed out the dog aggression, you will no doubt breed out some gameness. It's a catch 22

[KevinN]

Amen Brother!

[Quillin1]

I have seen game dogs socialized with no dog aggression out of working game parents.Most all game dogs show a whole different level of aggression towards other pits and some working dogs show no aggression towards other breeds even after being worked them selves.I think the good game dogs are more intelligent than the average "backyard dog".I have grown up around game dogs but I do not agree with that use for these dogs.My new catch will be game breed from a good line.

[WayOutWest]

Been messin with these so called "game bred dogs" for over 30 years and had several different lines thru the years. The last 3 I've brought a couple down to hunt with. I did it with these 2 because they didn't show the extreme dog aggression that some show. They were both exposed to hogs and will do well catching and I was able to ride them on the wheeler or in a trailer with other dogs.  The "dead game" dog is not necessary most of the time as acatch dog but I sure feel better knowing that dog is not thinking about changing jobs in the middle of a catch. Some lines tend to be more dog aggressive but most of them can be focused on hogs from a young age and learn to love the hunting. Some lines can tend to be dumber than stumps too. It is very hard to generalize about game bred or pet bred or backyard bred. I know all types can work  but I like the leggier dogs for a lot of reasons. There are guys that will cross there dogs and those who won't but distance is not the problem it once was because you can get the collection materials and collect and send your own semen anymore. Doesn't cost that much to have it AIed either. Just a possibility.

[waylon-N.E. OK]

Man guys thanks for all the input, I knew there would be some good info from here as always

[bob]

waylon , my catch dog jorge is a game bred pit , hes a hemphill \ wilder old family red nose bred dog , the best handle , follow a mule , listens ,good with my boy ,   hes six and knows me as I know him , troy has two female pups 4 months out of him to a good home

[Jpigg]

If you can find game bred pits you will get good, catch on the ear catch dogs, they are bred to be winners and excel at their game. I had a long run of bulldogs that all caught on the nose. If you ever get one of these don't get attached. I try to give a nose catching dog to someone where it never sees another hog for the rest of its days. If you ever witness a nose catchin pit on a real bad hog you will feel like a piece of chit for cutting him loose to it. If you cut him loose on another one after that(if he makes it) you are one. Anyway, game bred pits are defiantly the way to go if you have access to them.

[waylon-N.E. OK]

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[okboarhunter]

I have a big pit leggy n catches good, he is my old bulldog hit me up if u wanna check him out im sure thwey would let yua breed to him, just an offer