Marijuana vs Alcohol

[waylon-N.E. OK]

First I'd like to say I am not for abusing any substance or for doing anything illegal.

I have thought about this for a long time and figured this is as good a bunch of people to poll as anyone. I was a investigator for the Dist. 10 drug task force, severed as a Police Officer off and on from the time I was 21 until just a few years ago and I volunteer still from time to time. in all that time I noticed how much more devastating Alcohol was on peoples lives than Marijuana. I've seen more abused children come from alcohol, more spouse abuse, more auto accidents ( actually never worked a marijuana related car wreck ) Saw more cases of poverty from people stuck in a bottle and all had to fight people to gain custody to effect and arrest on alcohol and can't remember if I ever had to fight any one on marijuana, but I don't think so.

As I said already I don't condone abusing any drug and I do not use either alcohol or marijuana, but I can not see for the life of me why some folks are so down of folks who " Smoke pot " when some of these very same folks hit there social club of choice on the weekends and get stumbling drunk. When I worked as an investigator I had friends who I knew used marijuana and we just never talked about it, to this day I can name a handful of men who go to work every day and use marijuana. I just can see why it carries such a taboo today and we think it's ok to to sell 90 proof alcohol to any one over 21 with a heartbeat and the cash for the stuff? Do you think I'm off my rocker in my thoughts be i'd like to hear your honest opinions

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

Take another hit, and keep talking Waylon. 

[waylon-N.E. OK]

  Funny I never cared for either when I was growing up and don't drink or use smoke. Just speaking my mind because I came from a family of violent drunks maybe I'm tilted in my opinions but that's how I feel.

God Bless, Waylon

[mod93dirt]

I'll throw my honest ten cents in here. I smoked weed nearly everyday from ages 16-21. Then my daughter came along and I guess I realized it was time to grow up and quit smoking. I started smokin weed before I ever got drunk, which did not happen until after I got out of high school. Since then I'll still smoke maybe two or three times a year when the mood strikes me just right and I am around someone who had some. Many of my good friends still smoke all the time, I dont look down on them and they dont try to get me to smoke with them. I'm not necessarily proud of the fact I used to be a pothead, but I am in no way ashamed of it either. Other than the fact that it is illegal, I have no issue with anyone smoking some weed.

I think along the same lines as you Waylon. I have seen way more bad come from alcohol than weed. I havent ever seen two stoned people get in a fistfight, that definitely cant be said for alcohol. And while no one should drive under the influence, If I had to choose to take a ride with a stoned or drunk person, I'll take the stoner everytime. We wont be going fast enough to get in a serious wreck, haha. And I dont buy the "gateway" drug theory either. I've smoked pounds of weed, but never cared to try any other illegal drug.

I see someone taking a hit or two of some weed after they get off of work as being no different than having a few beers after you get off work. Some people like the feelin weed gives them, and some like the effects of the alcohol. I'll have a beer or two with my buddies after work to unwind, but rarely drink enough to get drunk anymore. I got too much to do day in and day out and cant handle a hangover like I used to. If it were ever to be made legal, I think I could easily never want to drink again. I much prefer the effects of weed vs those from alcohol. These days I just have very little to do with the stuff mainly for the fact that is illegal, and for me it aint worth any consequences of getting in trouble with the law because of it.


Disclaimer: I am not trying to condone or advocate anything here, the man just asked for honest opinions and thats what I gave him!

[charles]

Take another hit, and keep talking Waylon. 

LOL  i agree. sure ur name aint willie, not waylon 

[nub35]

Ain't nothin wrong with smokin!! IMO.
Texas will not legalize it cuz it grows easy
In our climate, and they can't tax something
U can grow yourself!! Lol

[waylon-N.E. OK]

  Charles I almost didn't post this because I was afraid people would get the wrong idea about me. I don't believe the Bible allows me to use either based on the some of the writtings in the pastoral letters that give qualifications for elders and deacons and I honestly don't. I've tried both when in high school and didn't care for them. I just can't seem to understand why we look at the 2 in such a different light is all.

[charles]

 waylon, i ment no disrespect. i dont use neither drug. i stoped smoking weed in 96 so i could join the military and never messed with it again. i stopped drinking alcohol in 2009 so i could afford arrows, fuel, corn and broadheads. i would rather hunt and eat deer than drink beer. it hadnt effected my work, but if i woulda give it another month or so, it would have gotten me in trouble.

[Purebreedcolt]

Domnt get me wrong but the weed seems to affect most people.  I have known several and it seems to dull their minds.  Now I don't smoke but I do drink some.  I VARY seldom get drunk but for me I see the two about the same when abused.  I guess since I drink and not smoke I feel different aint never smoked nothing other than some meat on a fire and don't ever plan to but by gosh pass me the jack lmao.

[grittydog]

If you would look down on somebody for smoking a joint I feel sorry for you. These are the same people that look down on others because the have a higher paying job and so on.I work construction and you will get that guy that went out and drank till 4 in the morning and come in to work in a bad condition, I would rathed that guy smoked a joint the night before. I smoked some weed when I was younger 20 years ago. Would I let my kids hang out with dopehead- HELL NO. But if I found out my kid tryed a drug I dont know what I would do. If somebody is responsible about what they do at there own home so be it, It's the drunk that drives when they shouldn't ( and I have drove drunk many years ago, I was lucky I didn't get caught or killed somebody). A drug addict stealing from people, that who I have issues with. To be honest my kids changed the way I look at things. WAYLON speak the truth and your real friend will still be there.

[tnhillbilly]

I see what your saying and agree with you 100 I havnt done either in yrs and believe the same way. I have tried both and thankfully I absolutely HATED the effects of pot.
     I can judge no one for using either because I have done my share of it over the years. I do believe if alcohol was not so readily available and glorified we would be in much better shape. I would be 100 times better off than I am now, had I never took that first drink. But thats just me.

[matt_aggie04]

It's an interesting topic so I'll chime in. I drank to excess in high school and early on in college far too often. I would drink occasionally after I got married and started working for a living but I have not had a drink of alchohol since 2008 due to issues with my blood sugar.  The thing I have found funny is how others view me for choosing not to have a drink. You would think I was the strangest person alive for choosing not to drink at all and get treated pretty chitty sometimes for not drinking. By the same token functioning alcoholics are socially accepted and nobody ever gives them a ration of chit for drinking all the time, a confusing double standard.  
My opinion on weed, let those who chose to smoke, smoke. Everything in excess is  bad for you and people can smoke in moderation just like drinking a glass of wine. I haven't smoked since college and don't have any plans to do so but I have nothing against someone who smokes.

[bob]

I think with calafornias pot laws it sends mixed signals out to alot of people , I know good people that has smoked on and off there whole life , family get togethers , deer camp ect. , some say its a gateway drug to others and some people are just week i think , to each there own , just my 2 cents

[charles]

It's an interesting topic so I'll chime in. I drank to excess in high school and early on in college far too often. I would drink occasionally after I got married and started working for a living but I have not had a drink of alchohol since 2008 due to issues with my blood sugar.  The thing I have found funny is how others view me for choosing not to have a drink. You would think I was the strangest person alive for choosing not to drink at all and get treated pretty chitty sometimes for not drinking. By the same token functioning alcoholics are socially accepted and nobody ever gives them a ration of chit for drinking all the time, a confusing double standard.  
My opinion on weed, let those who chose to smoke, smoke. Everything in excess is  bad for you and people can smoke in moderation just like drinking a glass of wine. I haven't smoked since college and don't have any plans to do so but I have nothing against someone who smokes.

well said. i am looked upon the same bc i choose not to drink. im not invited to outings with my old drinking buddies bc they think im strange for not drinking. im strange for other reasons than that. 

[muleman]

I dont really drink anymore and I never was big on weed, but if they made it legal, id burn one with you guys! 

[halfbreed]

good subject  and my two cents    , the war on drugs is and never was meant to be won . there is too much money involved in keeping it illeagal . just think of all the crime invovled in the drug trade  it would be gone thus less police less lawyers and judges prisons would have tumble weeds rolling thru them and we would have less government . the war on drugs is a premise to tax the civilians . look at prohibition all it did was creat crime and the need for more government . and some of the stupid laws associated with alcohal , you can go buy enough beer and wine to get falling down drunk on sunday but you can't buy a bottle of wiskey . i say legalize it all people that gonna do it are gonna do it period . but as it is we are paying way to much in tax dollars trying to stop it and it will never be stopped . i'd rather hang around with a bunch of mellowed out young potheads than be around a bunch of beginer alcoholics that all they wanna do is get drunk and fight . just my 2 cents oh damn burnt my mustach doobie gettin too short ha ha

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Soooooo what's the topic again?

[biseral]

to each his own, but im a beer guy.

[Reuben]

good subject  and my two cents    , the war on drugs is and never was meant to be won . there is too much money involved in keeping it illeagal . just think of all the crime invovled in the drug trade  it would be gone thus less police less lawyers and judges prisons would have tumble weeds rolling thru them and we would have less government . the war on drugs is a premise to tax the civilians . look at prohibition all it did was creat crime and the need for more government . and some of the stupid laws associated with alcohal , you can go buy enough beer and wine to get falling down drunk on sunday but you can't buy a bottle of wiskey . i say legalize it all people that gonna do it are gonna do it period . but as it is we are paying way to much in tax dollars trying to stop it and it will never be stopped . i'd rather hang around with a bunch of mellowed out young potheads than be around a bunch of beginer alcoholics that all they wanna do is get drunk and fight . just my 2 cents oh damn burnt my mustach doobie gettin too short ha ha

x2...it's all about the money...

I believe in root cause analysis and root cause fixes...so, I totally agree with HalfBreed...

same for curing diseases...Pharmaceticals spend all the time, money, and energy finding treatments but no cures...I can go on and on...

but I never got myself in trouble with weed but did quite a bit because of alcohol as a youngster...at one time I wanted weed to be legalized but now I am against it...can't be good for the lungs and brain...

[BIG BEN]

 I see nothing wrong with a lil pot, being from California I pretty much grew up around smokers and growers alike my whole life. Ive never seen a violent crime where the offender was stoned on pot, never seen a 10 car pile up on pot either. I have seen alcohol ruin alot of lives in my day including some in my family. Pot would be a very good taxable product that could help our national debt, hell California is making almost 500 million a year from the medical pot shops on taxes alone.