illegal immigration

[Noah]

actually no noah, only 1 even gave chit about this country. the other 4 only joined to get their citizenship and bring the rest across or from the islands. iv delt with soldiers that only joined for the free education and didnt give 2 chits to even do their jobs,just wanted the free education. i have issues with soldiers who didnt join to serve their country, but for its handouts. if it wouldnt have been illegal, i would threw them out the back of helo over the desert.

HAHAHA, I love your to the point-ness bro 

[SwampHunter]

why does it always have to be thougt that most illegals come from the mexican border ? theres pleanty of asian illegals russians an europeans that come illegal from the coast west an east , an most are hard working trying to provide for there familys the same as any of us  would do , some even pay taxes an never get a tax return ,
i belive if more americans were willing to work instead of sit on welfare an do nothing with there lives then we would have it alot better we need to get our own people working an have half as much work ethic as most illegals

i know its coming some ones gonna say well some peolpe dnt wanna be on welfare an such yes i know that but some do , includeing my own sister she is 32 an has maybe work 3 weeks her whole life she just rides the system , anit got nothing an will never have nothing an has no desire to have anything or yet even get a job ,
i work 6 days a week sometimes 7 an its the sorry lazy welfare  no workin us citzen son of a guns that pisses me of more than any hard working illegal , one of my good buddies is from mexico an has work visa he is a hard workin law following guy an i asked him if he didnt get a visa what he would do an he said he guessed he would do what all the others do sneak over here , gotta do what yoy gotta do to provide for you an your family

[texasguy23]

well I'm not going to jump in on this one other than to say I'm mexican, I was born and raised here. My wife whom I love dearly is also mexican who was born I'm Mexico. Yes she is illegal. Without going into much detail for my wife to become a citizen she has to go back to Mexico for 2 years. We have two children a home a life and she still must go back to become a citizen. Obviously this isn't going to happen and I told the immigration agent this on our last appointment in Houston. He said ice could come to our house and take her. I told him over my dead body. So I'm opposed to deportation and feel sorry for the poor souls that come to take my family away.

[charles]

 noah i call it how i see it, if it looks like a pig, grunt like a pig and roots like a pig. guess what, its a pig.. aint 1 post been in anger to ya. your a good partner for debating. i will agree with some posts. there are good hard workin immigrants, but its those illegals that need to go. if they do it the legal way and obide by the laws just as the citizens have to do, then go for it, to an extent. i do agree that there are some lazy sorry a$$ americans and they need to be deported midway across 1 of them big ponds and thrown overboard for shark chum. iv done construction, busted my a$$ in the commercial and industrial construction working 6-7 days a week, 12hrs a day. i did 7 12s from jan to late aug when i cam ehm on vacation and didnt take a singal day off unless i was switching from days to nights or nights to days. if we would cull the chitty americans and illegals, it open the job market with 100s of new jobs or less competition.

[charles]

well I'm not going to jump in on this one other than to say I'm mexican, I was born and raised here. My wife whom I love dearly is also mexican who was born I'm Mexico. Yes she is illegal. Without going into much detail for my wife to become a citizen she has to go back to Mexico for 2 years. We have two children a home a life and she still must go back to become a citizen. Obviously this isn't going to happen and I told the immigration agent this on our last appointment in Houston. He said ice could come to our house and take her. I told him over my dead body. So I'm opposed to deportation and feel sorry for the poor souls that come to take my family away.

if you were born and raised in america, then your an american, not a mexican. there shouldnt be a catagory of mixed countries. your either 1 or the other. i understand not wanting your wife to go back due to the kids and all, but if she wants to be a citizen, then she ought to obey the law. it sucks, but its what has to be done. ive been married for nearly 9yrs and only been with my wife for a little over 2yrs. i understand you not wanting her to go, but obey the law as we all do or suffer the consequinces.

[SwampHunter]

noah i call it how i see it, if it looks like a pig, grunt like a pig and roots like a pig. guess what, its a pig.. aint 1 post been in anger to ya. your a good partner for debating. i will agree with some posts. there are good hard workin immigrants, but its those illegals that need to go. if they do it the legal way and obide by the laws just as the citizens have to do, then go for it, to an extent. i do agree that there are some lazy sorry a$$ americans and they need to be deported midway across 1 of them big ponds and thrown overboard for shark chum. iv done construction, busted my a$$ in the commercial and industrial construction working 6-7 days a week, 12hrs a day. i did 7 12s from jan to late aug when i cam ehm on vacation and didnt take a singal day off unless i was switching from days to nights or nights to days. if we would cull the chitty americans and illegals, it open the job market with 100s of new jobs or less competition.

we needa cull some of these lazy americans haha

[Noah]

"if we would cull the chitty americans and illegals, it opens the job market with 100's of new jobs or less competition".... and there you go...    FACT of a free market, capitalist economy...  only interrupted by government or union-esque associations...

This is the new economy in America... you get paid what you're wiling to fight for, what you're worth... fine by me.

.... now if the cost of living would only catch up with this fact lol... 

[charles]

 I AM NO WAY affiliated with government or unions. i believe equal pay for equal labor, not bc your a supposed minority or female. if you cant do the job and meet average standards, not droping the standards to meet their inadequate limits. a fare pay for a fare days work. you are 100% correct noah on getting paid for your worth.

[tnhillbilly]

Company's do "hand out jobs" because they have to, to certain so called minorities.
   I agree with some Mexicans being extremely hard workers, tobacco use to be very big business around here, before the government screwed that all up. And there were a lot of Mexicans that would come here to work, and most worked hard.
Noah, I see where your coming from and agree to a point. I have no problem at all and couldn't blame anybody for wanting to better there family. BUT There are LEGAL ways of doing that.
   I also agree with chance and Charles to a point also. My problem is with the illegals. and yes their are plenty that come for a hand out, they have said we go to America where everything is FREE. BUT.....At the same time, just as has been said, there are just as many AMERICANS on welfare, disability, unemployment and so on.
    In my opinion, if they want to come to America, fine.....but instead of giving them free loans, no taxes for 5 yrs and all of that, have them PAY some kind of immigration  taxes for x amount of yrs. Or something to that effect.
  Not just Mexicans either.
And ad far as these sorry, lazy, whiny Americans, suiting on there sorry hindends with their hand stuck out. Well.  Thats a whole other topic.

[texasguy23]

yep I'm American but am also proud to be hispanic and there's nothing wrong with that is there? And if I could go back to the day her parents brought her over and  ask them to wait for her to get a passport and do the process legally I would, but sadly I cant . And that maybe the case for a lot of other people too.

[charles]

 there is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage, but i dont go around saying im a german, bc im not. i am a 2nd gen american. its either 1 or the other. i dont go around flying the german flag, so if your that proud, then get to walkin. i used to fly the american and tx flag, but have not errected a flagpole again to fly them flags at my new hm. obey the laws or suffer the repercussions.

[tnhillbilly]

Not a dang thing wrong with being Hispanic, heck im Irish, German, and Cherokee Indian. Im all mixed up LOL.

[Noah]

Not a dang thing wrong with being Hispanic, heck im Irish, German, and Cherokee Indian. Im all mixed up LOL.

Hell, you an I might just be related then 

[tnhillbilly]

Not a dang thing wrong with being Hispanic, heck im Irish, German, and Cherokee Indian. Im all mixed up LOL.

Hell, you an I might just be related then 

haha, you must have got all the brains in the family then.

[Noah]

 

I'm still waiting on someone to spell out the "great immigration problem" as it relates to the national economy.

[texasguy23]

tnhillbilly that's a good mix right there   and Charles spoken like a true hero  

[jdt]

all this could be fixed with 1 simple rule ,  .... and its in the bible - let them that won't work not eat !


either pull your own weight and help your neighbor when he can't , or get the hell out , or starve  ... i don't care which .

[Noah]

all this could be fixed with 1 simple rule ,  .... and its in the bible - let them that won't work not eat !


either pull your own weight and help your neighbor when he can't , or get the hell out , or starve  ... i don't care which .

So... you're sayin' 97% of Americans would starve under those conditions... 

[smacdown]

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[charles]

 mr tom, ur rite. there aint nothing wrong with meicans, irish, scotts, krauts, and so on, but how can you claim  1 country, but born in this country. its good to have heritage pride, but also have american pride if your an american, especially Native american. them tribal flage should fly higher than the american flag.