illegal immigration

[Noah]

Some of my closest friends are just like you Charles... you speak from the heart... which when pointed in the right direction, changes the world.

...I also have a regular habit of havin' ta slap some sense into your type HAHA    No disrespect intended.   

[charles]

Some of my closest friends are just like you Charles... you speak from the heart... which when pointed in the right direction, changes the world.

...I also have a regular habit of havin' ta slap some sense into your type HAHA    No disrespect intended.   

you feel froggy, jump. im your lilly pad, i will ball you up. aint nothin but air and opertunity betweem us. ( inhaling) there goes the air. aint no disrespect taken noah. my pops always said to speak what on your mind and be honest about it.

[Noah]

Yep, there it is 

[charles]

 there what is ??

[jdt]

all this could be fixed with 1 simple rule ,  .... and its in the bible - let them that won't work not eat !


either pull your own weight and help your neighbor when he can't , or get the hell out , or starve  ... i don't care which .

So... you're sayin' 97% of Americans would starve under those conditions...  

i don't know the % of people not pulling their own weight but if the boot fits use it to kick shcitt . just like culling useless dogs , it's got to be done or you will soon have so many they will eat you out of house and home  


you gotta draw the line somewhere   - might as well put it where it goes to start with

[tnhillbilly]

John and Charles X 2.  Yes lots of Americans would starve, but it would be of Thierry own doing. I have been taught my whole life, if you don't work, you don't eat. That would eliminate ALOT of our economical problems. IMO.
not talking about the ones who actually cant work, but the ones that wont and milk the system. I think thats where a lot of the problem lies. With all the crooked Dr and lawyers.
My great, great grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee Indian, but also have ancestors that are immigrants from Ireland and Germany so I can see both sides of the pic.

[Noah]

there what is ??

Charles, don't want anybody to think I'm disrespecting you, cuz I ain't.   Your type is who I typically get along with.  My one and only "best" friend is a special forces army ranger, hard headed as they come... more heart than a person could ever ask for... but sometimes mis-guided in direction.   I respect him regardless of our agreements to disagree...

[charles]

 a possible solution for this country's immigration policy would be to enforce what there, strengthn in the weak areas, if your an illegal, jailed for any felony conviction, instead of using tax dollars to house and feed them, execute them as soon as sentence is passed. they hav no leagl obligation to begin with. limit the allowed entires per yr, cull the worthless americans, set up remote weapons platforms, if need be put armed AMERICAN troops to secure our borders with shoot on site policy. it sucks, but like previously stated, in other countries, if your caught you get either tried, convicted and killed or a more swift method of kill on site. do a full background ck on those wanting to enter leagaly and if no info, no entry.

[charles]

 noah, if any1 thinks you are disrespecting me, then evidently they cant read and need more reading course. you have NOT disrespected me any way. you have been a good debating partner. is he special forces, or army ranger? those are 2 seperate spec ops groups, 1 more lethal than the other, or was he in a ranger bat and a SF group at different times?

[Noah]

a possible solution for this country's immigration policy would be to enforce what there, strengthn in the weak areas, if your an illegal, jailed for any felony conviction, instead of using tax dollars to house and feed them, execute them as soon as sentence is passed. they hav no leagl obligation to begin with. limit the allowed entires per yr, cull the worthless americans, set up remote weapons platforms, if need be put armed AMERICAN troops to secure our borders with shoot on site policy. it sucks, but like previously stated, in other countries, if your caught you get either tried, convicted and killed or a more swift method of kill on site. do a full background ck on those wanting to enter leagaly and if no info, no entry.

An effective game plan certainly... not so unlike what Hitler's regime had designed however...  wonder why that didn't work out?

Thankyou Charles, I believe you and I would get along in person quite well...  he was ranger/inducted into special forces.... still crazy as hell haha... I cannot tell you the number of times I have kept him from going to jail... but there is no other person I would want to be with when the chit hits the fan.

[charles]

 hitler wasnt the only leader to do that. look at the romans,asian mongrals, russians, arabs. they all had/have troops put on there borders to help secure them. in germany rite now you cant become a citizen unless you have a job, you cant get a job unless your a citizen, german sposored contractor or military. when i flew into germany on my way hm for vacation, i ask some germans about becoming a citizen and was told about the above statement. in that country you either join the military, go to college or join a civil service program. i cant speak for other countries bc iv only been around krauts since i was stationed on a kraut nato base for 11 months.

[Noah]

Good intel, guess that's why we don't give a chit what Germany thinks... along with France and the other milk-toast EU... 

[Noah]

I still want to hear a straight forward explanation from representative Ward about how the Mexican Hoard is specifically affecting the American economy and how he proposes to address it(aside from automated robot machine-gun turrets along the US/MX border  )

[charles]

 if we dont give a chit, then explain to me why we are still in NATO or the UN? we pay 200mil a yr to stay in the NATO and 100mil in the UN, not to mention the base of the world bank which our government in trying to wrap us in which is in the europe. we pay billions out every yr to other countries who aid our enemies, talk chit about us to toher countries, wont back us in a NATO involved war. if we can atleast get our immigration lined out, it will be a start. get them crooks out of the senate, crongress and the white house and put people who have true morals and integrity and loyalty for our country.

[halfbreed]

 ahh once again a topic has gotten off track . america still today accepts the tired the poor and hungry . wich is a good thing BUT and it's a big BUT we have a process with wich to accept entry into this country . and that is what is being ignored buy the illegals from whatever country or nationality . the laws NEED to be inforced . this country can only support so many at a time . and the illegals creat so much trouble in the way of breaking laws , [ not robbing liqure stores ect.] but for every one on a job to get around the law is usually working off of a stolen social security number that was sold to them by someone that is in the biuss. of selling stolen papers just so they can get hired . the laws have got to be inforced .

[charles]

 have you heard of the NAFTA super highway? its a highway cooridore coming out of mexico going up I35 in central tx and HWY 59 in east tx, leading up to canada for transport of commodities manufactured in all the countries. you want another impact, look under the hood of your car/tck and tell me where assymblies and sub-assymblies where assymbled and then shipped back to the us to sell to the consumer.

[Noah]

I truly believe if the REAL numbers were shown, the amount being spent on "social" maintenance would be but a drop in the bucket when compared to what is being spent overall...  I propose that we are simply more cognisant of that which we are accustomed to dealing with.

[Noah]

have you heard of the NAFTA super highway? its a highway cooridore coming out of mexico going up I35 in central tx and HWY 59 in east tx, leading up to canada for transport of commodities manufactured in all the countries. you want another impact, look under the hood of your car/tck and tell me where assymblies and sub-assymblies where assymbled and then shipped back to the us to sell to the consumer.

Would you rather your car's parts be assembled in China or Mexico?  I'll take Mexico.

[charles]

 i would rather in the U.S. even the so called american motor companies crap is assymbled in either cananda or mexico, very little mdae here. a lot of our steel is shipped to china, smelted, manufactered into new steel, and then shiped back to us, costing more in all aspects. you boys in fl dont have a direct impact of mexicans, but yet yaw the puerto ricans, the upper east coast gets the europens and wewtern russian and the east cost get asian immigrants that may start legal, but some end up say screw it, i'll stay here till they catch me, and as with halfbreed said, using stolen ss cards and other fake docs to hide out and eat us out of house and home.

[Noah]

Again, I'd like to see the numbers... I doubt, as incriminating as those numbers may be, that the "draw down effect" of the illegals is the predominant contributing factor to our declining economy...