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YELLOWBLACKMASK
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« on: April 01, 2012, 04:01:01 pm » |
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Well smoked again after five hours of straight running a good boar...so plenty of time to watch observe and discuss these dang Russian racehorses we are having to suffer over in these thickets. Have been watching alot of these big hogs on the garmin and have noticed when they jump they typically make one large loop and then straight line for about four to five miles before looking back. The smaller pigs or sows will make continuous loops making numerous figure eights usually in the heaviest thicket they can find. We have several places that are notorious for runners even if a dog chirps in the box before let out they are wide open heading out. I know everyone has different terrain so the observations will vary but due to having the luxury of these garmins was just interested on how everyone else is observing your local hog running patterns.
Enjoy ..............and knife a running Russian for me while your at it. Lol
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SCHitemHard
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2012, 04:15:55 pm » |
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we noticed that hogs would make for the main road we used to hunt alot on and the dogs knew not to cross it, so we would drop the dogs pretty much at the top of the area and run the hogs naturally to the road but we would have our cds at the road and we could see them coming pretty much and catch them, it was a hit or miss kinda thing
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Matt H
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hoghunter71409
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2012, 04:44:23 pm » |
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Yellowblackmask,
I've noticed the exact same thing. I have been successful in catching the runners by getting in front of him and turning fresh plotts loose when he crosses...of course when I guess wrong on his path, I get behind the race....all part of the fun to me. Sometimes leapfrogging the fresh dogs is the only way...eventually, eventually he will stop.
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Reuben
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 08:18:05 pm » |
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sometimes we catch them pretty quick but if they are dogged alot they will run a while...we are talking about some thick brushy terrain...Don't use a garmin yet but a good sized boar made a quick circle...probably in his feeding area because it took the dogs about 5 minutes to line out the track, also seems he busted right thru the middle of a deer herd. We spreadout at a pipeline...I say the boar cross the pipeline at a dead run about 3/4 of a mile away and some time later the dogs crossed...we didn't catch that one...but my friend runs mtn cur crossed with pit and some are all catch...so some of these hogs don't bay up at all...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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YELLOWBLACKMASK
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 08:36:12 pm » |
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We have only had this garmin for lil over a year and it is nothing less than spectacular. Takes all the guess work out of your dogs. We are finally able to watch a pack of dogs from over a mile away work a track in a thicket and see which ones are doing the leg work and workin out the tracks.
We watched this hog last night parallel roads for a quarter mile not 30 ft from the side. Do switchbacks on creeks and cut through pine plantations only to double back again. But the big boys over here are circling one good loop and its by by airplane. Gotta give it to them...they are some smart jokers.
We have had them big boys also run straight through a bedding area loaded down with sows and shoats just to distract the dogs and make their getaway.
I wish we had more open ground over here so we could get caught up to them quicker.
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Bar W
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2012, 10:10:45 pm » |
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I've noticed the leave the county action as well. They tend to make a little loop where I hunt then it's straight line to the baddest thicket close to them and keep on running. Wish I had enough dogs to drop a couple fresh curs on there butt. Think I'm gonna get me a big fat SLOW Hampshire and breed him to every rooter sow I can catch.
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YELLOWBLACKMASK
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2012, 11:21:24 pm » |
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Yellowblackmask,
I've noticed the exact same thing. I have been successful in catching the runners by getting in front of him and turning fresh plotts loose when he crosses...of course when I guess wrong on his path, I get behind the race....all part of the fun to me. Sometimes leapfrogging the fresh dogs is the only way...eventually, eventually he will stop.
We have done a few of the dropping fresh dogs last year. It either worked great or we would be on a nine to ten hour run. Just plain ole to dang long to stay on a runner. Also throws us into daylight timeframes which makes me nervous. To many idiots over here to chance running one into daybreak. |
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Reuben
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2012, 05:53:35 am » |
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Yellowblackmask,
I've noticed the exact same thing. I have been successful in catching the runners by getting in front of him and turning fresh plotts loose when he crosses...of course when I guess wrong on his path, I get behind the race....all part of the fun to me. Sometimes leapfrogging the fresh dogs is the only way...eventually, eventually he will stop.
We have done a few of the dropping fresh dogs last year. It either worked great or we would be on a nine to ten hour run. Just plain ole to dang long to stay on a runner. Also throws us into daylight timeframes which makes me nervous. To many idiots over here to chance running one into daybreak. hog hunting can be fun sometimes...  |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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RyanTBH
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2012, 09:18:43 am » |
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YBM, funny you say something about getting smoked. I have not had the best luck here in the past few weeks. On two different spots I've gotten runners. In both places they seem to do just like you said, making smaller figure 8s and/or doing a huge loop around us, and then heading out straight for mile or more. I hate those dang runners! Ive had my fare share in the past three weeks I promise you...  And when you all up in that thick stuff it makes it that much harder. Gotta love those Garmins though. |
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Reuben
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2012, 12:33:33 pm » |
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and the runners only get worse after mid April all the way until winter sets in...and that is when the foliage dies and lays down...but until winter sets in the dogs will be slowed by the foliage and the heat...and the hogs will have the greater advantage...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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YELLOWBLACKMASK
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2012, 04:28:37 pm » |
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Yellowblackmask,
I've noticed the exact same thing. I have been successful in catching the runners by getting in front of him and turning fresh plotts loose when he crosses...of course when I guess wrong on his path, I get behind the race....all part of the fun to me. Sometimes leapfrogging the fresh dogs is the only way...eventually, eventually he will stop.
We have done a few of the dropping fresh dogs last year. It either worked great or we would be on a nine to ten hour run. Just plain ole to dang long to stay on a runner. Also throws us into daylight timeframes which makes me nervous. To many idiots over here to chance running one into daybreak. hog hunting can be fun sometimes... Or turn into your second job. Haha. I am thinking of lacing my dogs teeth with venom from the poison dart frogs to attempt slowing these hogs down.......or guess they could just keep a mouthful and spit em at the hogs one at a time. Lol |
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Peachcreek
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2012, 04:59:56 pm » |
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i hear a staghound will shut them runners down   |
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YELLOWBLACKMASK
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2012, 05:03:58 pm » |
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i hear a staghound will shut them runners down They better come born with a machete or mortar tubes attached. Lol |
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Peachcreek
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2012, 05:11:11 pm » |
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RIGHT!! as thick as some of the places i have been hunting are sometimes i feel like i would be better off with running a dachshund cross. I think underdog has one he has been trying  |
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SCHitemHard
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 05:46:56 pm » |
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RIGHT!! as thick as some of the places i have been hunting are sometimes i feel like i would be better off with running a dachshund cross. I think underdog has one he has been trying you could always try henry  |
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2012, 06:57:39 pm » |
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YBM, I feel yur pain ! The hog yur describing is about all we have in Ohio. I've been on so many 10 and 15 mile chases! I like the feed more dogs theory but I don't have the dogs yet. I watch my garmin just like you described, a couple small circles then blast out a few miles, dogs start gettin close , hog starts circleing again! Without. The extra dogs to throw at em the best chance I have is to sneak a dog as close as possible to the hog and hope he catches it on the jump. And then he,s fightin a green one. Were all hills here and they still goe for miles if ya don't shut em down off the jump. They never run a little and then bay up. Even our little ones run like that ! Like that other guy said, sometimes hog huntins fun !
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hoghunter71409
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2012, 07:29:13 pm » |
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YBM, Yeah I know what you mean about an all-day or all-night affair....Most of my dogs are usually mid to small size. I cant tell you how many times I told my wife I would only be a few hours...next thing I know I am calling my boss, telling him I am going to be late for work. I like the small dogs becuase they seem to be able to get through the brush and stay on the runners longer. I've had some really good plotts that were long legged and beautiful, but they were too slow. I've herad several guys around here also wanting to breed a hampshire hog to maybe slow the running population. One thing I have found...one one runs, they all seem to run and thars not good for the short range dogs that wont stay.....the whole reason I went from curs to hounds. Good luck and keep hunting. Do you think to many all day races with no hog at the end can dscouarage a dog and breakdown the will to hunt?
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YELLOWBLACKMASK
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2012, 07:49:49 pm » |
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Do you think to many all day races with no hog at the end can dscouarage a dog and breakdown the will to hunt?
Not if they got hunt in em to begin with. Young pups would be the only exception if they haven't got the exposure they need to build that burning fire inside. |
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