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« on: May 07, 2012, 02:05:18 pm » |
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Here's what we got : 3 year old female strike dog... Only cast hunted, medium range, has never hunted good at night, good bottom, was thought to be a good dog from everyone that has hunted with her previously... Now this same dog has a new owner and pack, and new hunting style ( mainly walk hunting, occasional roading in front of the atv ).. Been hunted a few months now and she has found a couple hogs, will occasionally honor a bay but here lately wont leave your side even with dogs hammering... Sometimes will go after her own pig for a short distance and then come back.. She is hunting short range mostly, will roll out occasionally... sometimes cant get her out from under your feet... What can we do to get her back on track?? This dog has it in her to be a good dog, but she isnt showing it... I was thinking mock hunts may help her out besides keeping her in the woods hunting the way we do... Anyone else have any advice or tips that may help her out?? This dog was not a cull, but she is sure acting like one.... Thanks for any help...  |
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 02:14:27 pm » |
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Put her in the front seat for a bit. She probably needs to buddy up
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Matt D
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 02:21:24 pm » |
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I had this same thing happen to me. I tried everything in the book. Penning her up with my lead dog, getting them comfortable in yard with rest of pack, dog treats, TLC, anything and everything. That's when I learned some dogs will not hunt for everyone no matter what you do. I have seen a common theme with Catahoulas they are a one person owner. I ended up having to cull the dog in the long run. I hope u have better luck then me! Good Luck
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Mike
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 02:36:02 pm » |
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It may just take time. I hunted one for a buddy mine for a couple of months before the dog started hunting like his normal self.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 02:39:12 pm » |
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Hunt her the way she has in the past. I hate hunting at night just as much as my dogs do.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 03:43:31 pm » |
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Two problems as I see it. New owner, and new hunting style. The new owner thing can be difficult....some dogs it will make no difference, some will adapt with time and some will never hunt as well. Another thing people often don't consider along those same lines is new dogs. Some get used to hunting with a certain pack and won't do much with a lot of strange dogs around. One of my best dogs is just like this...I could sell him for $50 and I can guarantee in a few weeks people would bring him back. When he hunts with me and my other dogs, I wouldn't sell him for a hundred times that.
As for the hunting style..I agree with cantex and would hunt her the way she is used to. You start walking or riding an atv with any of my dogs on the ground and they're going to trot along beside or even right behind you. It's not what they know. Shut that machine off and stay put for a while and they'll be deep in the woods before you know it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 03:46:15 pm » |
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It may just take time. I hunted one for a buddy mine for a couple of months before the dog started hunting like his normal self.
x 2 The hardest hunting cur Ive owned or anyone other than a hound man would want never left my feet or the catch dog for 2 mo hunting 2 x's/wk After he clicked everything the man told me was true |
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cward
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 04:54:55 pm » |
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Heck I can't even get mine to hunt for me much less someone else.  |
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 05:22:41 pm » |
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What I see is this Trent,...dogs have really varied personalities as you know, therefore such things as this are sometimes very hard to understand and 'fix'. I like the idea of hunting her as she's used to,....might do the trick, might not. I also agree that it may take quite awhile for her to return to normal if she ever does. She may actually be a one person/pack dog. I would say give her ample time to get over this strange thing that has happened to her in her eyes. If she's as good as you say, then she's worth spending a great deal of time on.....those dogs don't turn up very often for me, good luck and let us know how it goes, I'd like to know.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 05:37:40 pm » |
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Put her in the front seat for a bit. She probably needs to buddy up
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I have seen plenty of mtn curs that were awesome hunting dogs...but take these dogs away from the owner and normal surroundings and they will not hunt...usually a minimum of 3 weeks but sometimes quite a bit longer...I also believe that these dogs can be ruined by the new owner...but the dog can be made to come around sooner by the new handler if he makes the right choices...we must have patience with these dogs and focus more on winning the dog over and not on hunting...the issue is not whether the dog will hunt or not because that is already known...the issue is finding a way to get the dog to trust and accepting you...Once that happens the dog will hunt... sit by the dog when feeding...make the dog your buddy...take it for long walks...never lose your cool...the dog will know that you are hiding or containing your anger...so get right with yourself and the dog will respond positively toward you....don't force the dog to do anything it doesn't want to do...put the dog in with the pack in the kennel for about a week so it can find its place in the pack... once the foundation is set then it is time to take the dog to the woods...I would try to hunt it as it was hunted by the previous owner for a while...take the dog to the woods and turn it out and sit and ignore the dog...when hunting ignore the dog...no petting or the dog might think you want it to hang around...  I would keep the corrections to a minimum...no real training of any sort because it probably will be recieved as a negative by the dog...just expose the dog to what you want out of it... |
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Heck I can't even get mine to hunt for me much less someone else. lol x2 |
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t.wilbanks
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Thanks for everyone's advice.... Hopefully she just takes alittle more time.. |
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drew
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man i would take her out a couple of times get her out on a lead just before you kick your other dogs out an keep her hooked up and let her socialize with the other dogs for a minute an just put her back up then hopefuly the night u go you dont have a dry run and you get one bayed up and she hears it if she has been on hogs an she is left out she will wont to go i did this a couple times with a pup i had an he didnt like missing out on the hog
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