I want to hunt a little diffrent.....

[grittycurrs81]

2 rough currs if they cant hold it down choot it my 2 cents

[buddylee]

I know folks that are running a single cur dog while using night vision. They turn the dog onto hogs in a field. Dogs usually fair ok. Problems arise when the dogs get out of pocket on a big boar. The only protection their using is a cut collar. There will always be "what ifs" or "coulda" and "shouldas" when hunting dogs. I am trying to breed up some dogs that can handle most hogs by themselves but plan to run 2 at a time. My first breeding produced 60-65 lb dogs. They have been on a couple big boars and had good control of the boars. My pups are 1/4 dane 1/4 Campbell cur and 1/2 pit. Leggy, athletic, and hard catching dogs. You should look into some Aussie cut gear as it's made for the type of dogs your after.

[TColt]

I used to run my old dogo one out a bit (look through my old posts and you will see him), caught a lot of good boars with him by himself. He was about 70 lbs. Starting to run my new dogos on the ground also, but they are still young.

My advice. You better make sure your as legged up as the dog or are able to easily drive to you dog on whatever place you hunt. I had a few foot races with big boars trying to run off with my dog, running as fast as you can for 300 + yards then trying to handle a big boar by yourself is not as easy as it sounds. I would also let the dog work on handling hogs as much as you can, size is a big factor, but experience holding a hog for a good amount of time is probably the most important factor. Keep your dog in shape! If you do this one out thing, a time will come when your dog is having to hold a pig for a good while, sometimes close to an hour. God likes to play funny jokes and make the temperature rise about 10 degrees and he makes sure your dog is on a good size hog when you take him out and he hasn't been off a chain in three weeks, so keep him legged up.

If I was to give advice on a picking a pup/breed, go for more speed rather than more nose. To keep you and your dog safe, you want them striking and catching as close to you as possible... obviously.Nose can take a dog a long ways away, a lot faster than you can keep up, speed shortens the race if the hog gets on the move.

Dogos are a good breed for this due to their all around ability, but for your lack of experience, I would choose something with more speed and less nose. Some dogos have really good noses and their brains work alot differently than a cur or hound, at least from my experience. When they hit a trail, no matter how cold or hot it is, if they can pick up the scent that switch is on, they are full speed till they realize there is no hog, or they catch it. I have had them take off, go 1000 yards full blast and catch. I have had them take off, go 1000 yards full blast, lose the scent or quit the trail for whatever reason, and then trot back. Also, it can be a real pain finding a pup out of good hunting stock if you don't get in touch with the right people... not all dogos are hunting dogs and very few are attempting breeding dogos that are.

I would go with some sort of sight hound cross, stag, greyhound X dogo, ab, pit, dane. A bull X dane. Pit, dogo, ab X RR. Something along those lines. Like I said, shoot for more speed, less nose would be better. Hogs stink, any dog can smell them. If they smell them a long ways away, guess what, your going to be running a long ways away.

Get gear made for this style of hunting. There are a lot of options for this, Silverton Boar Dogs is a distributer of some real good stuff. Don't run a full vest, heat has a better chance at getting your dog more than the teeth do, especially running this style of dog.

Also, get two dogs, but still hunt one out. Dogs get hurt and two dogs means you can stay in the woods  

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

You need a couple of things in a dog like this: speed, clean holding style, size, and some degree of hardness.

You can get that in several differant breeds and crosses.

I am running some Stags, Stag x Dogo,AB, and Dogo x Catahoula's.

The Dogo, Dane, Dane x Pit also work.

Aussie type gear is a must.

[justincorbell]

look up L3 outdoors he swears by his "boar hounds" (great dane from the pound) being one out champs. sounds like you need a running catch dog with plenty leg under it. Maybe a catdo

Dont steer him that direction!!!!!!


"the sun is shining somewhere in texas" -Jason Boland

[sdillard]

I have a dog like this and he is 5/8 plott 3/8 cur, he gives maybe 2-3 barks then he catching i dont care how big a hog it is, but be ready for alot of down time with this kind of dog. I think that a plott x pit would be a better cross but i love the dog i have. And as far as gear i started run the Boar Bib and it has help out alot.

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

If you are having injury down time you are using the wrong "type" of dog for this kind of work. Thats why size and holding style are so important.

[sdillard]

R u saying u dont have injury down time with ur dogs?

[chads7376]

Since I have had my Stag he has been hit once out of at least 60 catches. I blame that on fatigue that day. There's no telling how many he caught before I owned him but I cant find any battle wounds on him. He/they have a clean holding style while my bulldog used to get hit all the time. Just an observation/opinion.

[hank]

I caught a lot of one out hogs behind this dog. He could find em, catch em and hold em till you got there. My advice is no matter what kind of dog you get a gps is a must have. When a dog is catching a hog instead of baying it you need to be pretty close behind him. One thing I liked about him as opposed to my cur dogs is he was more short range. If a hog smoked him in the first 500yds he would come back most of the time. IMO that is a good thing with a one out dog. I don't want my dog caught a mile from me. I'm a big fan of the good ol pit. There pretty easy to come by. A good one will give you everything he has  every time.

[makenbeans]

I hunt 1 out I recommend a garmin for the dog, good four wheeler, good pair of running shoes and a knife and a 30/30 lever action.
I use a foundation BMC..

[buddylee]

I have a dog like this and he is 5/8 plott 3/8 cur, he gives maybe 2-3 barks then he catching i dont care how big a hog it is, but be ready for alot of down time with this kind of dog. I think that a plott x pit would be a better cross but i love the dog i have. And as far as gear i started run the Boar Bib and it has help out alot.

My dane/pit has caught some big boars and only been cut under the chin. Bigger dogs are able to control big boars. Small dogs get thrown around on a big rough boar. A big dog catching and holding a big boar is not gonna get hurt much. There are a handful of us breeding towards an Aussie type dog.

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

R u saying u dont have injury down time with ur dogs?

Yes, I have very little injury down time with my holding dogs. That is normal and expected from a finder holder type dog. Hold clean, hold smart.

[SCHitemHard]

i had a cat hound mutt that would do some one out work. it worked for me but i also had a walk in pit that i would send in

[T-Bob Parker]

R u saying u dont have injury down time with ur dogs?

Yes, I have very little injury down time with my holding dogs. That is normal and expected from a finder holder type dog. Hold clean, hold smart.

Just because it makes some folks mad, don't make it a lie. I can't speak for silver tons dogs but I'll say that the red nose pit catchdog I gave away a month or so back had around 200 catches under her belt and a lot on real good hogs. She never had a single injury from a hog. Only cuts she ever got were from thorns.
If you expect excellence, you will at least get "pretty darn good"

I think more people should demand excellence from their bay dogs as well.

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

Well said T-Bob.

Years ago I spent many nights sewing up dogs after every hunt and waiting for them to heal up.

I got rid of all those "type" of dogs and now I spend my time catching pigs and not sewing up dogs all the time.

There are clean holding dogs in every breed, we should, as a group, pay more attantion to that and select for it.

Can a clean dog get cut? Well of course, but usually it happens at the hit up or when the dog is near exaustion. Once the dog has an ear not much bad can happen if you can get to them in a reasonable amout of time.

This last year I have watched my hairy dogs, on three occasions, jump over the back of a bad boar, while still holding, to keep from getting pinned on a tree or a creek bank.  Thats what I like to see. Hold clean, hold smart.

[sdillard]

Never said it wasnt true. Just havent seen it, not with a one out "type" of dogs. Im not saying they get cut everytime but with the ones Ive seen that can truely go out hunt anywhere from 0-900 yards find a hog and catch that hog never get cut.

[Melonhead]

That's kinda what I wanted at first, so I started with a dogo. Then I got another one, stayed stubborn for a little while and finally, got a cur dog too. Took 2 1/2 years and I'm finally catching pigs on a more consistant basis. The cur isn't even a year old, but she set my other two off.

A word to the wise - some dogos are not short range. Running over 1500 yards to a dog can sometimes take over 20 mins depending on where you are.
If I were to start over, I would choose a long legged, short to medium ranged cur X pit, dogo, ab. Or a few small dogs like patterdales or jagds

[Middleton]

I agree with most of the above comments, I would want a dog 80 to 110 lbs with good leg that is fast an a good vest they can move in. if it's open country an u can get to them fast a short range hard as nails dogs is good, but if your dog was going to hunt out far or in thicker country I would like them to be hard but smart so if u got onto a bad boar an u couldn't get to them quick they would let got an bay alittle till u got their an then they would catch again. Coz even if they hold smart if u get on a bad boar one out in a tank or really thick stuff where they can't move or u cant get to them they will get hurt eventually. In my experience hunting back in Australia I've had more luck with a dog that would let go then catch when u got their then a hang till u die type of dog ( I think it's smart) some people don't like it an think they will get u hurt, but the best dog I had was this type of dog I never seen him bay a pig but heard him many times an I caught plenty of pigs over 200lb just with him.


I also ran a hard as nails type dog which was great if u got to her quick but many times when I eventually found her she was over heated or cut down ( before I had trackers) an the other dog would get the job done.
Over hear I started out running a Dane/pit which is a hard hang till u die type dog (no bay) with one lose cur that wouldn't help catch an I caught some good boars with just him catching but also got him cut down a bit as he would go as far as the cur would, now I run another rcd with him which is by him out of a Dogo/ridgeback gyp an it's made life alot easyer on him making it easyer to control a good pig.

Ive hunted theis to rcds together on small places, an feedlots with no curs an had good luck with it, it's a fun way to Hunt if u have the right situation to do it. Just my thoughts Hugh
 

[HVILLEHNTR]

Guys,

I can't thank everyone enough for the feedback and comments. To clarify on a couple questions.....I would not be trying to take the hogs out alive, owning two dogs is "out of the question.” Also, I’m prepared to purchase a top of the line GPS tracker, along with proven and reliable cut gear.
 
I’m a little surprised about some of the comments that contained a hint of negativity…It amazes me that people can write something with the tone that it’s not safe, smart, or possible….AND they have no real experience hunting this way, or training a dog to hunt as a lone ranger.

However, I respect everyone’s opinions, and once again appreciate the feedback

Thanks   

Andrew