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« on: April 19, 2009, 07:17:02 pm »

Has anybody read the Austin American statesman's sports page today. there is a interesting artical about hog hunting I was wondering what yall's thoughts were.       
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 07:52:42 pm »

   Yes. Shows how the media will turn a story and words around to make a story.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 08:11:57 pm »

I just hate to see such an article come out in times such as this when there is so much in the legislature about dog wrights especially in the Austin paper as liberal as it is
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 08:23:57 pm »

JMO but if I was that hunter I would get a good legal counsel and be ready for the worst. That artical will have some negative feed back in the Austin area, and your right it couldn't of come at a worse time even though I know that is not what was intended by the men interviewed in the artical. You just can't tell a story like that to the paper and let them run freely with it.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 08:40:46 pm »

JMO but if I was that hunter I would get a good legal counsel and be ready for the worst. That artical will have some negative feed back in the Austin area, and your right it couldn't of come at a worse time even though I know that is not what was intended by the men interviewed in the artical. You just can't tell a story like that to the paper and let them run freely with it.

  Pretty sure no laws were broken. So why legal counsel. No need to beat around the bush.

 The picture was sent by me. The story that was printed did not come out of my mouth like that. The writer already had most details when I was contacted. It was read on here first I would assume.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2009, 09:09:27 pm »

Pretty sure no laws were broken. So why legal counsel. No need to beat around the bush.

I think his idea was that the animal rights activist might try and make something out of the fact that he put his dogs in danger!  but thats Hog Huntin
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2009, 09:10:57 pm »

I can not speak for L3 but HSUS and Peta can bring lots of trouble for you and god knows there is a lot of those whack jobs in Austin that would take a story like that and run with it I believe the the good counsel was to protect your self
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2009, 09:38:52 pm »

sucks that our heritage is such a touchy subject. a man cant even be proud and brag a little in less its in private.  Huh? i find that the general population doesnt have a clue to the realities of the facts of life ! have to be careful who you tell your stories to dont ever know how they will be inturpreted...... my.02
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2009, 09:58:40 pm »

that story makes hog hunters look like they are careless to go back and get a hog like that. i hate to hear that dogs were killed but thats just how it is sometimes.
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2009, 10:05:09 pm »

amen Dirty dog. It sucks that a reporter would git his fax wrong and wright a story like that don't it and yes you are wright most of the general public don't have a clew that is why in my opinion we as hog hunters and dog men have to be care full what gits out to the public because of people like Peta supporters that will just focus on the bad and not the good
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2009, 10:43:03 pm »

I don't know if any legal issues will arise, but I think that it is very careless to send this picture along with this story to a publication such as the Austin American Statesman.  You must have known that radicals such as PETA would have a field day with this kind of story.  As it has been said, there is a lot of legislation floating around that could make it difficult on us dog hunters.  This is the kind of story that could sway a non-hunter to an anti-hunter.  Not good publicity at all.

That being said; I'm glad you killed the big hog; .22, .357, & deer rifle or not.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 05:18:37 am »

JMO
  folks we need to think about the stories we write and the pictures we post.
 instead of writing about how many dogs get cut and killed  and showing bloody hog pictures with ears chewed off
and multiple stab wounds, yall know the ones i am talking about lets leave those stories for the tail gate and  select gatherings of fellow hunters
  we need to take pictures of corn fields plowed,fences ripped down,turkey,quail nest rooted up, not to mention the ones of goats calves and fawns gobbled up like a big garbage disposal.
 we all know the damages these  vermin do to the landscape and wildlife,and see it just about everytime we go hunting take pictures of that and post them  dont give the radicals ammo to use against ourselves.
 we all need to do our part to preserve our rights and heritage and as bad as i hate it we are going to have to keep it all to ourselves when it comes to the bad parts of the  hunt
        just a thought id been  wanting to say alot of our problems we bring upon ourselves
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2009, 06:54:28 am »

Dexter is right on with his statement. We are dealing with RADICALS they will work twice as hard to stop hunting than hunters will to keep hunting. With there being NO WRITEN LAW saying its legal to hunt hogs with dogs people need to keep a lid on the bad things and focus on the positive till we can get a law saying it is a legal means of taking a hog. I sugested the legal counsel beause some wack job will try and press animal cruelty charges, or come try and inspect the dogs and kennels. The charges will probley fall through the cracks but it will be a hassle for you.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 08:01:59 am »

cantexduck
      L3 might has a good ideal on the legal problems that might arise
          as some of  law enforcement friends say and ill quote
          "You might bet the rap,but you wont beat the ride
                   
right now we are the farmers and ranchers best resource for ridding Texas of the pest, til they  encroach the cities and suburbs more and root up the gardens and manicured lawns and golf courses more  we have to lay low and wait for them to beg us to rid them of the
hogs that cost them big bucks  like a old ad said "you can pay me now,, or you can really pay me later"
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 08:26:19 am »

it is deals like this that opens the wrong peoples eyes. i dont understand why every body wants to be so public when you know there are people right now that are strongly against this. what people dont know about dont hurt them but when they read it or see the graphic pictures people put on here and everywhere else sooner or later someone thats against it is gonna see it and stir up a bunch of bs.   
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2009, 09:13:58 am »

I think that we can all learn something from this sitiation.  Mike is no more in the wrong for putting is story in the paper then any of us are for putting our stories with pictures on this PUBLIC forum.  There are nearly 1000 members on this forum and probably 3-5000 people (guess) that view it on a weekly basis.  We all need to be more aware of how we tell stories post pics etc.  I don't think it is going to do anyone any good to beat Mike over the head with this and I am not going to keep a post open just so that can happen. 
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2009, 09:23:03 am »

People are over reacting to this. I thought the editor made a decent argument about the negatives of hogs and showed how the catch dog is suppose to be protected.

It would have been best if it did not talk about the dogs getting killed.

However, I would be willing to bet that most of the people here would have liked to brag about their kill and allowed a paper to write an article. That is what almost every post on this forum is about.

Austin is full of idiots and ignorance and he might get some hate mail, but I think it is better to stand up for what we do rather than hide and point fingers.
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2009, 09:26:54 am »

When I heard about this I wondered how hard that reporter had to search to find the story.  I did a google search of Mike's name and home town.  On the SECOND PAGE of the results was a link to bowhunters.com discussion forum to the story.  This was simple to find!!!  We all really need to be careful of what we are putting on the internet.  I am guilty too!!!  But this should serve as an example to all of us, the content on this site is read by the entire world, not just hunters.  It sux that we have to do this, but Dexter and L3 are right we really need to choose which pictures to post.

That being said, Mike I know that you never saw any of this coming.  I don't blame you, you killed a big hog and have every right to be proud of it.  It sux that reporter did you like that, but maybe we will all learn from it.
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2009, 09:46:41 am »

Can someone explain to me what was wrong with the article? How does it shed a poor light on hog hunting?
I personally thought the reporter wrote a fair and unbiased article about the hogs. The damage they can do to crops, and the risk of hunting them with dogs.   Nothing I read sounded any different than what I read on here daily.

At what point to dog hunters stop being afraid of what the anti's think, and start standing up for their rights as dog hunters?


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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2009, 10:01:29 am »

Chris I kind of thought the same thing, but wondered if I was wrong because everyone else seems to think it showed hunting in a bad light. I thought it was a nice article, yeah your gonna have people complain, but somewhere, someone is always gonna gripe about anything you do regardless. lol
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