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Reuben
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223 best all around gun there is tac driver at any distance with the right scope speed behind this caliber is ridiculous and you can get the ammo for it from any where and it's a cheap round
I disagree with a 223 being the best all around gun. The reason I say that is because once the bullet carries past 300 yards it drops in a hurry. Although the bullet is virtually the same as a 22-250, the powder in the shell makes a tremendous difference and makes it a lot faster than a 223. I have a custom ar-15 decked out as well as a howa 22-250 with floated bull barrel. I like them both a lot but at long distances the 22-250 is better hands down in my opinion. x2...22-250 is a flatter shooting gun... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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okboarhunter
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22-250. Although buddy had a 204 ruger that was very accurate
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charles
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the down side to a 22-250 is if you hit even the smallest twig, the bullet will basicly disentigrate in flight bc it is traveling so fast. the 5.56 is an all around good cartridge and is used by many target shooters out to 500+ yards with accuracy. it has enough powder to to carry it into its target and cause damage to the vitals, except for a fat and heavily shielded hog, but thats where a neck shot comes into play. i do agree the 22-250 is a flater shooting bullet with a better trajectory than the 5.56, but again it is traveling a heck of a lot faster which is a good thing, but can be a bad thing. anything over 2800fps is getting a little to fast unless your shooting over open prarrie land.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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Riley W
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alright i think i'm going to get a 22-250 savage and if this post still keeps on going dont start fighting about this stuff its just a gun
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" I don't think you understand they killed my dog mister "-Shooter
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Hog Dog Mike
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I have 4 varmint rifles---3 are 22-250s and 1 is a 223. I used to hunt prairie dogs a bunch. In fact one 22-250 is on its 3rd barrel.
If you are going to have just one I would suggest a 223 because the ammo is more plentiful and less expensive. They take almost 10 grains less powder if you are reloading. The bullets and primers are the same. Brass for the 22-250 is much more expensive.
The longest confirmed shot I ever made on a prairie dog was 670 yards and was made with the 223. I made a shot that I am sure was over 700 with the 22-250 yards but cannot confirm because I did not use a range finder on it.
All of my rifles are Remington 700 because they are tough, accurate, and I can work on them. However, I would not hesitate to buy a Savage. I have shot a Savage some and they are really good rifles.
Also be sure you get one with a 1-9 twist or less so that you can shoot heavy bullets. Most 22-250s are 1-14 and some 1-12 twists. Mine will not shoot a bullet heaver than 63 grains. The tight twist rifles will shoot the heavy bullets which you will need if you plan to shoot long.
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boarboy
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17 hmr is a real good gun but if your shootin over 200 yards i wouldnt use it on anything much bigger than a rabbit i own one and love it. the ballistics between a .204 ruger and a 22-250 are almost the exact same i have a ruger 22-250 it is a real nice gun and a buddy of mine has a .204 not much difference i would go with one of the two
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Reuben
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When I first married my wife I bought her a Remington model 7400 classic... she has killed many deer with it since...and she can out shoot me with it...My kids have all killed deer with it and now my grandchildren...I would like to take that gun away from her because I like it better than all my other guns...I also have a 2506 rem classic and a 7 mag in rem 7400 BDL...most my guns are Remington...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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Hog Dog Mike
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When I first married my wife I bought her a Remington model 7400 classic... she has killed many deer with it since...and she can out shoot me with it...My kids have all killed deer with it and now my grandchildren...I would like to take that gun away from her because I like it better than all my other guns...I also have a 2506 rem classic and a 7 mag in rem 7400 BDL...most my guns are Remington...
Everytime someone mentions a 25-06 I will always think about a prairie dog hunting trip up at Stratford, Tx.. This guy wanted to go with me and I said OK and then he drags half of Angelina county which wound up ruining my hunt. Anyway, there was this guy that had never been prairie dog hunting before and there wer lots of them at this place. He got his gun past hot and it needed cleaning bad. He plugs the chamber and pours the barrel full of Sweets. It was so hot the sweets shot out of the barrel like a coffe pot. |
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boarboy
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fars as scatter gun shells 3in 00 buck shot will do the job
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Izz
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I have a 223 setup that is crazy accurate. I have the nikon m223 scope and its on target up to 600 yds with no problem. I was bustin clay pigeons and 400 yds like nothing. I really like 223 caliber. I also agree with the 204. It is haulin some a** and is acurate as well.
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BDizz
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Just ordered a Remington 700 vs sf ll 22-250 and a leupold vxr 3x9x50. Strictly for varmint huntin. Hunt in alot of contest and shot a buddies 22-250 last year in them and loved it. I was shootin a ruger 6.5 creedmoore and it's a hard one to put up but just gonna use it for deer huntin. I shoot alot of long range just messin around and it's gonna be fun to sit down and compare the 6.5 and 22-250.
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"may God bless and keep you always, may you always do for others and let others do for you"
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Reuben
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Just ordered a Remington 700 vs sf ll 22-250 and a leupold vxr 3x9x50. Strictly for varmint huntin. Hunt in alot of contest and shot a buddies 22-250 last year in them and loved it. I was shootin a ruger 6.5 creedmoore and it's a hard one to put up but just gonna use it for deer huntin. I shoot alot of long range just messin around and it's gonna be fun to sit down and compare the 6.5 and 22-250.
remington 700 is a good gun...i have 2 in the 700 classic and another in 700 bdl...but I really like the 22-250 in the classic...it is super accurate and my wife and kids have killed many deer with it...I don't remember them having a deer run off once they have shot it... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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rdjustham
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223 best all around gun there is tac driver at any distance with the right scope speed behind this caliber is ridiculous and you can get the ammo for it from any where and it's a cheap round
I disagree with a 223 being the best all around gun. The reason I say that is because once the bullet carries past 300 yards it drops in a hurry. Although the bullet is virtually the same as a 22-250, the powder in the shell makes a tremendous difference and makes it a lot faster than a 223. I have a custom ar-15 decked out as well as a howa 22-250 with floated bull barrel. I like them both a lot but at long distances the 22-250 is better hands down in my opinion. theres alot of variables in ballistics. hard to generalize drop in bullets. |
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Reuben
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223 best all around gun there is tac driver at any distance with the right scope speed behind this caliber is ridiculous and you can get the ammo for it from any where and it's a cheap round
I disagree with a 223 being the best all around gun. The reason I say that is because once the bullet carries past 300 yards it drops in a hurry. Although the bullet is virtually the same as a 22-250, the powder in the shell makes a tremendous difference and makes it a lot faster than a 223. I have a custom ar-15 decked out as well as a howa 22-250 with floated bull barrel. I like them both a lot but at long distances the 22-250 is better hands down in my opinion. theres alot of variables in ballistics. hard to generalize drop in bullets. the 22-250 is deadly because of the speed which contributes to the impact...the impact creates shock... ALL BULLETS DROP AT THE SAME RATE OF SPEED...You can be on a roof top and drop a 22 bullet and a 50 cal. bullet to the ground and they will drop at the same rate of speed...THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAJECTORY HAS TO DO WITH THE SPEED OF THE BULLET...THE FASTER THE BULLET THE FLATTER THE TRAJECTORY...THE SLOW BULLET DROPS AT THE SAME RATE OF SPEED AS THE FAST BULLET BUT THE FAST BULLET TRAVELS FASTER THEREFORE FLATTER TRAJECTORY IN THAT GIVEN TIME FRAME... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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Hog Dog Mike
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Reuben: Go to the head of the class immediately. Once any bullet clears the barrel the only force acting on it is gravity. The 6.5 is a great bullet and I have shot it at long distance with very good results.
Here is the deal if you are going to shoot long you have to use a tight twist and a heavy bullet. Some of my friends use a tight twist in a 22-250 Ackley Improved and the 80 grain Hornaday bullet. They have been killing prairie dogs consistantly out to 800-1000 yards.
I ranged a prairie dog for a guy using a 260 and he killed it on the 3rd shot @ 1157 yards.
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Hogsnatchers
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There are so many more factors that start coming into play than just speed and weight, all bullets are going to drop at a different rate and react to wind differently depending on the bullets construction. The ballistic coefficient has a tremendous amount to do with it, higher the bc the flatter trajectories you will achieve. That is one reason the 6.5 is so popular in long range shooting. Really long slick bullets slip through the air really easily and buck the wind so you don't have to compensate nearly as much.
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Reuben
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There are so many more factors that start coming into play than just speed and weight, all bullets are going to drop at a different rate and react to wind differently depending on the bullets construction. The ballistic coefficient has a tremendous amount to do with it, higher the bc the flatter trajectories you will achieve. That is one reason the 6.5 is so popular in long range shooting. Really long slick bullets slip through the air really easily and buck the wind so you don't have to compensate nearly as much.
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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Still kinda confused at how you could think all bullets drop the same. Throw a brick that weighs 1lb then throw a dart that weighs 1lb which one is going to go farther. Obviously the dart because it is more aerodynamic, same thing with bullets higher the bc the more aerodynamic. Best analogy I can cone up with righ now.
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rdjustham
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There are so many more factors that start coming into play than just speed and weight, all bullets are going to drop at a different rate and react to wind differently depending on the bullets construction. The ballistic coefficient has a tremendous amount to do with it, higher the bc the flatter trajectories you will achieve. That is one reason the 6.5 is so popular in long range shooting. Really long slick bullets slip through the air really easily and buck the wind so you don't have to compensate nearly as much.
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x2... Isnt that what i said? guess i should have elaborated.  |
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