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« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2012, 05:48:50 am »

There are so many more factors that start coming into play than just speed and weight, all bullets are going to drop at a different rate and react to wind differently depending on the bullets construction. The ballistic coefficient has a tremendous amount to do with it, higher the bc the flatter trajectories you will achieve. That is one reason the 6.5 is so popular in long range shooting. Really long slick bullets slip through the air really easily and buck the wind so you don't have to compensate nearly as much.

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Isnt that what i said?  guess i should have elaborated. 

flatter trajectory means faster bullets...faster bullets mean more or better gun powder, better co-efficiency, just better bullet design...
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« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2012, 05:53:25 am »

I used to do a lot of reading on different cartridges and usually they lacked in one way or another...so now I just buy the cheaper remington corelokt's, but I mainly focus on the amount of grains...just made a full circle... Grin
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« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2012, 08:09:03 am »

Number one all around bullet for this is the .223 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum.....

Your looking at a .22 caliber with the shoulders sharpen to 28 degrees of angle in a 223 cartridge shooting 3,850 feet per second for a 55 grain bullet.

Bullet drop at 500 yards is -29.6, Bullet Energy 499 ft. lbs. with a 55 grain bullet at 3,900 fps. will not mess up the Varmint at all...
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« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2012, 12:22:41 pm »

One major setback as to why the 223 wssm wouldn't be a first choice, money the brass and loaded rounds are high and your not getting a whole lot faster than a 22-250

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« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2012, 03:20:38 pm »

Here  is the way the deal works. ANY two bullets that leave barrels at EXACTLy the same time will hit the level ground at EXACTLY the same time. That is physics and cannot be changed because the only force acting on them is gravity. BOTH barrels must be exactly horizontal.

HOWEVER, bullets that are better built and have a better ballasitic coeffecient  will hit the ground at a greater distance from the end of the barrel.

What I have found concerning bullets is this. Remington and Winchester bullets work just fine out to 300 yards. I bought 5,000 Remington core locks and shot them one season. Premimum bullets such as Sierra, Nosler, Speer, ect.. cost more but perform better at ranges beyond 300 yards.

I use powders that meter well such as Varget, Ball C2, and H-380. Accurate powders have a pressure curve that is excessive and dangerous when hot. The pressure curve for Varget is almost a horizontal line and gives excellent veloocity.
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« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2012, 07:19:36 pm »

25-06  or  22-250 there is prob more 22-250s used for varmit hunting than any other caliber seems that no matter what brand it is the 22-250 is a accurate rifle no recoil and nice range will usually shoot farther than most can see at night i personally like my 5mm rem for varmits
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« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2012, 10:43:22 pm »

Good ol daisy bb gun Wink
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« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2012, 12:41:51 pm »

25-06  or  22-250 there is prob more 22-250s used for varmit hunting than any other caliber seems that no matter what brand it is the 22-250 is a accurate rifle no recoil and nice range will usually shoot farther than most can see at night i personally like my 5mm rem for varmits
25-06 would leave to big a hole on the exit wound IMO I shoot deer in the neck with mine and it leaves a fist sized hole I use remington core lock 100 gr
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« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2012, 03:37:10 pm »

I do a ton of varmit hunting both for fun and guided hunts.  I have a wide range of weapons all of which will make an excellent varmit weapon.... .22 Hornet, .204, .223............ think small calibers that pack a punch.  If you are gonna be shooting long range think something like the .204.... if you are gonna be shooting up close think .17 or .22 Hornet, both good and accurate out to about 125 yards......my gun of choice is my Ruger laminated all weather .22 Hornet shooting a custom hand load, Win 46gr HP that packs a hell of a punch.  Good luck and happy hunting!
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« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2012, 08:09:18 am »

i use a 22-250 iv had mine for a long time and love it i took out a couple yotes at 350 yards and droped um tack driver and a smooth shootin gun!
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« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2012, 05:32:20 am »

22-250 all the way ! i use mine on varmits and deer hunting , best all around gun imo !
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« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2012, 05:34:25 am »

22-250 all the way ! i use mine on varmits and deer hunting , best all around gun imo !


it truly is an awesome caliber...
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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2012, 06:14:53 pm »

i would kill for a 22-250 but couldnt afford one and i bought a 22 mag. damn good gun imo i love it. dropped a deer with it before too. all around good gun but if i had the option a 22-250 would be my gun of choice
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« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2012, 08:18:13 pm »

If you are going on a very good varmint hunt you will need a rifle that shoots ammo you can afford. A 223 works very well and you can buy ammo and components cheap. I love the 22-250 but the brass is much higher than the 223. Bullets, powder, and primers are the same but you load less powder in the 223. I can load 254 rounds of 223 per pound of powder compared to 200 per pound with the 22-250.

In one good town I shot 757 rounds of 22-250 in one day.
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« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2012, 10:40:05 pm »

22-250
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« Reply #55 on: November 28, 2012, 12:39:52 pm »

I use the 223 WSSM in a Winchester model 70 and love it
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« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2013, 07:06:20 pm »

.204 Ruger, my brother in law has one and it is an awesome gun.  I've seen him hit a couple yotes from 300-350 yds and even better, I saw him nail two small birds out of a tree from 400 yds.  Tack driving little sucker. 
   

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« Reply #57 on: June 09, 2013, 11:19:14 pm »

223 best all around gun there is tac driver at any distance with the right scope speed behind this caliber is ridiculous and you can get the ammo for it from any where and it's a cheap round

I disagree with a 223 being the best all around gun. The reason I say that is because once the bullet carries past 300 yards it drops in a hurry. Although the bullet is virtually the same as a 22-250, the powder in the shell makes a tremendous difference and makes it a lot faster than a 223. I have a custom ar-15 decked out as well as a howa 22-250 with floated bull barrel. I like them both a lot but at long distances the 22-250 is better hands down in my opinion.

I'll second that. With an AR platform, 300 yards is probably pushing it depending on the specs of your rifle and your own skill as a marksman. That being said if you're planning on shooting within the 200-300 yard range, then by all means go with the .223. Out past that range I'd probably go with something that does better at long distances.
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« Reply #58 on: June 18, 2013, 08:43:43 pm »

Hands down 17 hornet
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« Reply #59 on: June 18, 2013, 09:43:49 pm »

Hands down 17 hornet

Is there a difference in the 17 hmr and the 17 hornet?

Also have a question on the .204...I know the bullet must be bigger than the 17 yet smaller than the 22 so just wondering what the speed of the bullet is and if it is a good varmit gun?
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