Bayer Tree and Shrub (possible solution to the changed ingredient)

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Have been talking with a few about the Bayer Tree and Shrub not being effective against sand fleas anymore.  Have used it just as effectively as everyone for the past two years except this year. This year the sand fleas were dipping their biscuits in it and laughing the while time. Some say the fleas have built up tolerance to it, others say Bayer has changed ingredients and possibly added an element that is neutralizing the active ingredient that kills the fleas. 

I dont know the answer but I ran across this stuff the other day. The feed store feller said this is as close to the original Bayer formula as you can get without any type of fertilizer. 

Long story short. Put some in a sparyer mixed a tad of water and ran a line down every dogs back. Next day......ZERO FLEAS.

Totally nuked these lil jokers and are still flea free after one week.

Go try yall some.  It worked great for me on some sure nuff hard to kill sand fleas. Deisel and burned oil wouldn't even touch these jumpers. 

Enjoy.

[hog bit]

That's what I use.  Works great.

[chads7376]

Thanks for the info. Gonna try it this week. Bayer isn't working for me either.

[hog hunter 72]

Hey Miles this is Dugan Robert's son which feed store did you get it at and how much water do you add?

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Southland Feed
downtown Lufkin runs about 17 a bottle.

This stuff is really thick like a cream so I put just enough water in the sprayer to lighten it up enough to run a line down their back that would sink into the hair easily. 

[Caseydejohn]

It works. I been using it for 2 years. I get the concentrait and mix 3 cap fulls to a gallon of water and soak the dogs down in it.

[cold beer]

thats what i use.got it at serios feed and seed in bossier city. works great

[Txmason]

That is what I have been useing.
M G in Weimar, Texas

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

For everyone who had used this brand recently. What is the estimated timeframe you have to reapply to keep it effective?

[johnf]

when i first started and fleas were awful.about every 3 weeks.after they were under contol about every 4 weeks.i never see the dogs scratching.its been a blessing.i wish i had something that worked that good on ticks.some places i hunt are thick with ticks.

[Caseydejohn]

It last bout a month but if you buy the concentrait the active ingredient is 21.4 percent.

[Reuben]

For everyone who had used this brand recently. What is the estimated timeframe you have to reapply to keep it effective?

I haven't run out of the original tree and shrub but I would use it once a month for at least 2 or 3 months just to break the cycle...

[dwhd93]

Anyone know where I can get it around alvin? I already checked tsc and my feed store neither of em carry it

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Anyone know where I can get it around alvin? I already checked tsc and my feed store neither of em carry it

Worst case scenario ..The company is in Pasedena. You could swing through and pick up a gallon. May try the feed store in Santa Fe.

[dwhd93]

Anyone know where I can get it around alvin? I already checked tsc and my feed store neither of em carry it

Worst case scenario ..The company is in Pasedena. You could swing through and pick up a gallon. May try the feed store in Santa Fe.

alright I appreciate it. Is the feed store your talkin about Evans?

[aussie black mouth curs]

Something to think about.  No doubt that the active ingredient works but if you can get the same active with a "carrier" so that it spreads across the dog you can apply straight down the dogs back, which is more effective.  I use a product here with the same active but is a backline treatment for sheep lice the product name here in Australia is "avenge".  I'm sure that there would be similar products over there.  Just be careful to work out the correct dose.  I worked it out against the same treatment as "advantage" and it ended up being the same as the label rate for sheep.

This is what I have done and I don't have a single flea.  All my mates do it too.

T

[BIG BEN]

Southland Feed
downtown Lufkin runs about 17 a bottle.

This stuff is really thick like a cream so I put just enough water in the sprayer to lighten it up enough to run a line down their back that would sink into the hair easily. 

$17 a bottle is crazy, the local feed stores around here charge $11. Ive been using it the last 3 years with good results, I put it on the dogs straight and make sure to rub it in good to the skin. I also add a lil to my spray rig with Demon when the fleas hatch out and spray the yard, pens and barrels. Good stuff!

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Yep. Lol. Seems like they charge extra for having to bring items into the woods. Lufkin is notorious for higher prices without reasoning. 

[Reuben]

TSC has the tree and shrub... The store in Bay City and the one in Lake Jackson carry it in a 32 oz. bottle and the name is "COMPARE AND SAVE" and it sells for $9.99 a bottle... 1.47%...I copied the description off of their website...

read below....

Control insects that infest trees and shrubs with Compare-N-Save® Systemic Tree and Shrub Insect Drench with 1.47% Imidacloprid. One easy application protects treated outdoor trees and shrubs and listed fruit and nut trees for 12 months. The insecticide is absorbed through the roots into the plant for protection that won't wash off. Controls aphids, emerald ash borers, Japanese beetles, birch leaf miners and other listed insects.

•32 oz.
•Liquid

[tnhillbilly]

Is it just sold local? I need some up here. Didn't have any fleas til I went to AL last weekend. Noticed ole Pete digging and scratching today. Sure enough ate up with them.