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« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2013, 07:32:25 pm » |
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Guess my Dogos are culls then
As you have described them, yes they are. |
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« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2013, 07:49:46 pm » |
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Guess my Dogos are culls then
As you have described them, yes they are. I don't use my Dogos to find hogs I use them to catch them. . And they do it pretty damn well. So no, my dogs aren't culls |
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« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2013, 08:00:38 pm » |
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I thought the whole point of the dogo was that all you had to run was dogos and they'd find and catch? Thus the ridiculous prices
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« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2013, 08:09:26 pm » |
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They have an outrageous price because not every back yard breeder has them yet. Unlike every other person breeding pits
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« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2013, 08:14:31 pm » |
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Lol yeah know one gets on here some talk to a couple buddys that are no longer members or more like lost their password and they get on here and read some
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« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2013, 08:14:31 pm » |
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Guess my Dogos are culls then
As you have described them, yes they are. I don't use my Dogos to find hogs I use them to catch them. . And they do it pretty damn well. So no, my dogs aren't culls According to everything I've read pertaining the original goals of Antonio Nores Martinez the dogo was bred to first find the hogs, and then catch them. If your so set on helping the breed, and proving them to be true hunting dogs why wouldn't you be following the original breed standards at least. You should be holding your dogos to the highest standards possible not settling for mediocrity. |
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« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2013, 08:16:36 pm » |
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Guess my Dogos are culls then
As you have described them, yes they are. I don't use my Dogos to find hogs I use them to catch them. . And they do it pretty damn well. So no, my dogs aren't culls Your the one who brought it up, and described your dogs. They are culls, but you can call them whatever you want, and you can use them how ever you want, but that does not change the facts. There are to many Dogo's, like you describe, being bred and spread around. I have owned some like that, they were culls and were culled, no hunt and no nose. That is not what the Dogo was designed to be. Please do not breed any of that blood. |
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« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2013, 08:24:37 pm » |
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My dogs are not culls. My Dogos are bred from some of the best bloodlines you can get. And they do what I need them to do. Which is to be a rcd. But I'm not going to sit here and defend my dogs to someone who has never hunted with them.
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« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2013, 08:37:22 pm » |
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My dogs are not culls. My Dogos are bred from some of the best bloodlines you can get. And they do what I need them to do. Which is to be a rcd.
Not trying to pick a fight, but this is the exact problem with the dogo. People pay high dollar for "the best bloodlines you can get", and then settle for mediocrity because they have so much money invested. According to breed standards your dogs are culls if they don't find their own hogs. Plain and simple. So how are you going to help prove their abilities as hunting dogs, and improve the breed if your own dogs can't even meet the MINIMUM breed standard? Bloodlines and price tags don't make a dog, abilities do. If you really want to help the breed out, make them prove themselves and except only the best. |
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« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2013, 08:46:56 pm » |
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when i walk hunt chuy is rcd. when im roading or other just catching
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« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2013, 09:15:05 pm » |
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My dogs are not culls. My Dogos are bred from some of the best bloodlines you can get. And they do what I need them to do. Which is to be a rcd.
Not trying to pick a fight, but this is the exact problem with the dogo. People pay high dollar for "the best bloodlines you can get", and then settle for mediocrity because they have so much money invested. According to breed standards your dogs are culls if they don't find their own hogs. Plain and simple. So how are you going to help prove their abilities as hunting dogs, and improve the breed if your own dogs can't even meet the MINIMUM breed standard? Bloodlines and price tags don't make a dog, abilities do. If you really want to help the breed out, make them prove themselves and except only the best. and dont forget dogos are used for protection, police work. world wide...dont compare pits to dogos...yes there pricey and us who have them dont complain...but if you want to cull my boy its on you...just make shure you make a solid point...cuz the one you are making now... well like football to soccer....WORLDWIDE STAGE HOMMIE from me.....who else. tapatalk |
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« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2013, 09:18:07 pm » |
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Guess my Dogos are culls then
As you have described them, yes they are. I don't use my Dogos to find hogs I use them to catch them. . And they do it pretty damn well. So no, my dogs aren't culls Your the one who brought it up, and described your dogs. They are culls, but you can call them whatever you want, and you can use them how ever you want, but that does not change the facts. There are to many Dogo's, like you describe, being bred and spread around. I have owned some like that, they were culls and were culled, no hunt and no nose. That is not what the Dogo was designed to be. Please do not breed any of that blood. ask mr.mason about Chuy...i will call him a cull if he does from me.....who else. tapatalk |
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« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2013, 09:31:38 pm » |
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This is Kane. He is my RCD. He will find his own hog and catch it. That to me is a running catch dog. If one of the other dogs strike he goes with them until he gets close enough to catch. If they get split up he will catch what he gets to. if its piglets he will kill the one he catches and head to the nearest bay. If its a piglet he kills it and goes to the next.  |
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« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2013, 09:35:56 pm » |
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My dogs are not culls. My Dogos are bred from some of the best bloodlines you can get. And they do what I need them to do. Which is to be a rcd.
Not trying to pick a fight, but this is the exact problem with the dogo. People pay high dollar for "the best bloodlines you can get", and then settle for mediocrity because they have so much money invested. According to breed standards your dogs are culls if they don't find their own hogs. Plain and simple. So how are you going to help prove their abilities as hunting dogs, and improve the breed if your own dogs can't even meet the MINIMUM breed standard? Bloodlines and price tags don't make a dog, abilities do. If you really want to help the breed out, make them prove themselves and except only the best. and dont forget dogos are used for protection, police work. world wide...dont compare pits to dogos...yes there pricey and us who have them dont complain...but if you want to cull my boy its on you...just make shure you make a solid point...cuz the one you are making now... well like football to soccer....WORLDWIDE STAGE HOMMIE from me.....who else. tapatalk  I think your missing the point.... police work and personal protection has nothing to do with being a catch dog. And pits? Where'd that even come from HOMMIE? The price is what it is. I'm not knocking that because I have payed for dogos. Just don't hold them to lower standards, because you did pay that much for them. Also I'm not saying everyone who has a dogo that doesn't find hogs should cull the dog on the spot. Just don't breed it, and especially don't breed it and say your helping the breed. In a nutshell, it's simple don't breed dogs that can't even meet the minimum breed standard, and claim to be helping the breed. |
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« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2013, 09:36:21 pm » |
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My dogs are not culls. My Dogos are bred from some of the best bloodlines you can get. And they do what I need them to do. Which is to be a rcd.
Not trying to pick a fight, but this is the exact problem with the dogo. People pay high dollar for "the best bloodlines you can get", and then settle for mediocrity because they have so much money invested. According to breed standards your dogs are culls if they don't find their own hogs. Plain and simple. So how are you going to help prove their abilities as hunting dogs, and improve the breed if your own dogs can't even meet the MINIMUM breed standard? Bloodlines and price tags don't make a dog, abilities do. If you really want to help the breed out, make them prove themselves and except only the best. and dont forget dogos are used for protection, police work. world wide...dont compare pits to dogos...yes there pricey and us who have them dont complain...but if you want to cull my boy its on you...just make shure you make a solid point...cuz the one you are making now... well like football to soccer....WORLDWIDE STAGE HOMMIE from me.....who else. tapatalk Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 |
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« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2013, 10:11:35 pm » |
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After reeding other post I will add I run rough dogs with Kane. The rest will bay will get rough but when Kane sinks teeth they all pile on. A perfect example was Kane and my lady dog got on a boar hog while going to a bay. They caught the boar and we killed it then they went on to the bay. The dogs at the bay were catchy dogs but this big Barr had them backed up. When Kane got to them he caught and that dude was stretched in no time. I don't like running Kane one out and if possible I don't do it. That doesn't mean tho that he don't get split up from the rest. He also actively hunts and very often is the lead dog when just searching. My other dogs do pick up a lil older track than him but he can wind as good as any of them.
To me these dogs that just run along side of wheeler are catch dogs without a leash. Why not load them up and send them when u hear a bay instead of letting them run along side getting tired. A guy I hunt with has a pit that rides loose on the box. If the dogs bay he tells him to go to them and he's gone. 400 yards 200yards 600 don't matter if he can hear them he is gone. If the hog breaks before he gets to it he can and will follow until either he catches up or it stops to bay.then it's caught hog.
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« Reply #76 on: April 04, 2013, 11:43:06 pm » |
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My dogs are not culls. My Dogos are bred from some of the best bloodlines you can get. And they do what I need them to do. Which is to be a rcd. But I'm not going to sit here and defend my dogs to someone who has never hunted with them.
Blood lines only say what a dog SHOULD be, they don't make a dog. The dog has to do that on its own. Lets say someone reads the breed standard and decides they want a Dogo, because they will find and catch hogs on their own. They come to you and buy some of your dogs. They go to the woods and the dogs never find a hog, ever. Do you think that person is gonna turn around and talk about how good the Dogo is? Hell no, if they have any balls, their gonna step up, cull the dogs and cut their losses, then probably never say a good word about a Dogo the rest of their life. Tell me this, if the Doc who created this breed, wanted dogs that found hogs, do you think he would have bred your dogs? Let me give you a hint, your dogs don't find hogs, so the answer is No! This right here, ladies and gentlemen, is why there are so many number 2 eatin Dogos. Mediocrity... |
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« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2013, 11:45:31 pm » |
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This is Kane. He is my RCD. He will find his own hog and catch it. That to me is a running catch dog. If one of the other dogs strike he goes with them until he gets close enough to catch. If they get split up he will catch what he gets to. if its piglets he will kill the one he catches and head to the nearest bay. If its a piglet he kills it and goes to the next. What's his background? Sounds like a good one |
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« Reply #78 on: April 05, 2013, 08:10:22 am » |
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im going to start another post about culling...
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« Reply #79 on: April 05, 2013, 08:16:01 am » |
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I have no idea. I got him from a guy in Shreveport LA named Jeffry Glenn. He had got it somewhere. When I got him I was told he would catch but didn't have a nose. I don't think he had learned to use it yet. The bad part for me is he is cut so I won't be getting any pups of him so he is a one show pony. Wish I had 3 more just like him.
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