Coyotes at the bay- East Texas - Leon County Question

[Circle C]

Had a visitor to a bay a couple weeks ago, and it has me wondering.

How many have had a Coyote bay with their dogs? Did the bay break as a result?

How many have had their dogs pursued by coyote?


To the guys in Leon / Madison county
Have you ever seen a large coyote that looks like this?  Black and tan?


This is not my photo, I jacked it from this site....
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[slimpickins]

SilvertonBoarDogs and I hunted a place years ago, and seemed like every hunt we bayed hogs at a specific tank.
About the third time we realized there was a coyote in there baying as well.
We had joked a previous time or two about which one of our dogs made that funny bark when they were nose to nose.
Happened several times, and I think he even saw him once in the middle of the bay, but got out upon our arrival.

[elliscountyhog]

Yep ran coyotes off going to a bay plenty of times but never actually seen one baying with my dogs but have heard them barking a little ways off from them baying as well

[jhy]

I have had a pack of them show up next to a bay and start raising all sorts of racket, and the bay broke.  I have heard of them being at the bay on several occasions, but it is usually just a loner looking to get in on the pork.

Joey

[Cull Buck]

I have never had one join the bay but I've seen one observing a bay from about 50 yards off.  We saw each other at about the same time and he split.

[matt_aggie04]

While hunting on the river in Madison county about 2 years ago I saw two large yotes cross a pasture but they were red colored and BIG.  I wouldn't want to tangle with one.

MG

[slimpickins]

Filmed in Leon county, be careful out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyc3C1kB0Tg&feature=related

[got2catchem]

Bryant, Travis, Randy, and I were on a hunt last year where the dogs had bayed up about 200 yards in the woods. When we got there, much to our suprise, we had a extra dog at the bay. The yote took one quick look at us and was off to the races. First time I had ever seen that.

[muleman]

never had em come into a bay but have had them come into treeing hounds before.

[grunterhunter8]

Walked up on the bay one time and saw a young coyote pup bayin his little head off, but as soon as he saw me he high-tailed it. Another time dogs stuck a hog and had it bayed a lil while and on the way to the bay it broke and ran 20 yards in front of us with dogs on its heels. We saw the hog cross, one dog cross, another dog cross, then a coyote chasin the dogs and hog.

Circle C,

That would make a nice full body mount or pelt.

[pig snatcher]

Never saw a coyote that color before.  Have seen the regulare brown ones and black one but that is unique looking there.

Never had them bay with the dogs but have had them come in close and make racket.  Had a pack of them run a grown dog and a pup off a caught shoat once.

They are getting bad in this area and I think coyote/dog encounters will likely increase in the future if their population isnt cut down.

[cchogdogger]

that yote might be crossed up a little , like wolf or maybe husky , the yotes down here mostly got the mange and look nasty as heck , thats a fat yote to

[bghogdogtx]

looks like the color a wolf might have

[BarrNinja]

This has happened to me a many of times. My dogs are pursued until they realized whats going on and then, bad news for the coyotes usually.

I still have an old dog that hates a coyote with a passion and will fight and kill it if its brave enough to stand its ground. He has killed 2 over the years and my dogs total have killed 7. That's not counting the pups they drag out of the den and crunch. I have dropped the bomb on more than that myself. My dogs (except for one at present)will always run back to me when that happens and when I see the coyote I usually shoot it if I have a gun.
Its an ugly site to see what a .480 Ruger can do to one.
If my dogs cross a pack or a den of them its usually "game on" even if the dogs try to leave.
Never had one help out at the bay though. Probably because Ive always had a hater in my pack.

[Circle C]

My farm is in a small community called Pleasant Springs, just east of Centerville. The past couple of years I have been hearing about a "big wolf" within a mile of my place. One of my friends has seen it as well as his grandfather. I hear a wolf story and I become suspicious , but these guys are not ones to BS either.

Well, Easter weekend Mandi, myself, and our girls turned the dogs out near the farm house.   Two dogs had rolled out to our south a little over a mile, and our other dog Lizzie was hunting closer in. We saw her take a track into the woods, then open up at 200 yards. Now Lizzie was steady hammering, so Mandi and I each grab a catchdog, tell the girls to stay on the mule, and head toward her. We get within about 100 yards and another dog opens up with a strange bark.(remember our other two dogs are out a mile the other way) We look at each other and don't know what to make of it. Bam, the bay breaks.  We can hear running through the woods, then Lizzie opens up again.  Moments later, the other dog/coyote starts baying. Then the hog breaks again.  Now Lizzie is headed  out behind where we are standing, and we can hear running in the woods heading our direction. Out in the clearing the LARGE black/tan coyote pops out, sees us, and make a quick u-turn and headed out.  I cannot help but think this black and tan coyote is what my friends up there are referring to as a wolf.   It is the only yote I have seen colored in this manner, but I am wondering if that color sequence is common in Leon/Madison county or if he is a fluke?

[chancebrown]

never had one bay up with my dogs but last saturday when my dogs bayed a group of hogs a coyote broke out and ran past us. thought it was kool that the coyote was staying close to the hogs and to top that the yote was the biggest ive ever seen

[RIP]

Shawn, myself, and a few other buddies were hunting outside of Tyler and the dogs were working this plumb thicket. About 30 yards away from us my female rcd jasmine came around a cedar tree and right behind her a large yote was trailing her.  He was almost prancing like he was trying to court her.  It was kinda weird how playful he was acting around domestic dogs especially since she was the only female and she is fixed.  Of course once he spotted us he split but it definitely got our attention.

[BOBDOG]

Working nights a bunch of years back in Sherman Tx on the drive home south to Howe I spoted a group of hogs in a field across the creek fro the Johnson and Johnson plant, for any of you guys that know this country. Went home and loaded two dogs. A red tich named Sissy and a RCD named Zuess. When I got therer the were gone but the track was hot and they both hit the ground running. As I ran after them I heard squelling in short order. As I came in site of what I expected to be Zuess holding a small shote, much to my shock it was a coyote that had a hold of that shote! A half a second after I realised he was a coyote he realized I was a human and he let go. he ran one way, the shote the other. But my strange day had just begun. Zuess had headed back towards all the squelling and was close enough when the coyote let go that he quickly had that little pig re-caught. in the middle of one of a very thick briar patch. In my t-shirt I was having a hard time reaching the pig, so I just took Zuess by the back legs, thought I would just drag them both out like that. Well I had not owned Zuess very long at that time and he was very young well he must of thought I wanted him to let go, cause he did. I quickly let go of him so he would recatch the pig but about that time Sissy went to baying. So he left out to go to her. Well I headed in that direction and the bay broke before Zuess could have possibly gotten there. So I headed in the direction of travel I had last heard them, listing for them to bay again. But I never heard them again that day. I finally stoped at a fence line that was lined with trees. Between this fence line and the next was a plowed field. In an hour or so of not hearing them I started calling every so often. About two hours later Sissy came under the fience heading straight for my periotic calling. She got a little way across that field and I'll be damned if first one and then two coyotes came under the fence trotting in single file behind her. They got about half way across the field and the coyotes stoped with their noses in the wind as I became aware of the wind at my back. Sissy paused looking back as if to wonder why they had suddenly stopped following her. Well she came on and they of course did not. I found Zuess later that day no worse for wear. The way I figured it them coyotes had been following that group of hogs waiting to snatch a little pig that got to far from a sow and when my dogs got them on the run they just joined in.
Why they were following Sissy back I don't know? Funny thing is I am reluctant to tell this story because it seems a little far fetched, but it sounds like more folks have had similar experience than I would have imagined. Hmm.

[Wmwendler]

I would guess its crossed up with a dog or something.  There are also Texas Red wolves out there (endangered species) and be real carefull those things come with a 5 year prison sentence and 30,000 dollar fine If i remember right. Happens all the time to me.  Seen lots of yotes come into bays and harass the dogs.  Had some chase the dogs.  I think they hang around sows with pigs and pick one off if they can.

Waylon

[cody1offroad]

I have had them barking from a ways back but not in the actual bay but i know a guy from southwest oklahoma that has half blackmouth half coyote dogs and he swears by them