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« on: June 20, 2012, 04:03:39 pm » |
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is there such a thing as a silent plott hound ? really like these dogs and keep hearing good things about them but i dont want one that opens on track ! am i wasting my time ? can yall point me in the right direction ? thanks
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2012, 05:23:59 pm » |
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considerin they were bred for locating animals in the mountains its very rare to have one. you would get a buckskin before gettin a 100% silent plott  |
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2012, 06:51:42 pm » |
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most plotts are more houndlike than their ancestors.if you get one thats close to silent cross it with a good silent cur dog.then again thats a long rd.but aint they all.regardless thats the rd. ive taken.silent does exist.i got a male id give 95%silent.if he gets after a sounder he'll squeak a little.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2012, 08:21:32 pm » |
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plotts will quiet down a lot if you run and train them in with silent dogs and the same for open dogs....
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2012, 02:19:15 am » |
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I wouldn't feed a plott hound, get a cur dog they are way better. Thats why tx don't have any bears.  |
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 09:09:52 am » |
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I wouldn't feed a plott hound, get a cur dog they are way better. Thats why tx don't have any bears. Exactly......  Out of all the Plotts I've owned or hunted with, I think I've only seen one that was totally silent on track and it was the last one that I owned. You might find one,....but I wouldn't wait around. |
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2012, 09:37:17 am » |
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ha ha yes they are out there , i had one . my ol gyp bell was tight mouthed but i was lookin for an open mouthed dog when i bought her and i agree if i had run her with hounds she most likely would have been open . but runnin her with curs i'm sure helped to keep her tight mouthed . |
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2012, 05:07:26 pm » |
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im wanting a gyp plott to cross with my bmc . ive seen this cross before and most of them were darn good dogs !
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2012, 09:58:39 pm » |
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Look up Bogue Chitto plotts on face book. Mine came from those lines and they are good prospects. At 18 mos old I'm pleased with them. My male was a little blabber mouth so I started running him with a bark collar set to a low setting and now he will open on strike then set to work and hush up. Some say the bark collar did it and some say he just matured. Mike cauley, Trey love, and mike Williams have proven plott lines.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2012, 08:28:07 am » |
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I wouldn't feed a plott hound, get a cur dog they are way better. Thats why tx don't have any bears. I damn sure wouldnt feed a cur dog then lol. No bottom and hard to get one with the hunt of a hound they exist i started with a old male 9 yrs now silent as any dog out there and i have had 3 just like him over the years my buddy has 2 of them and the other i kept. I know its all for laughs but someone tell me what a cur does better than a hound out side of more being silent? |
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I wouldn't feed a plott hound, get a cur dog they are way better. Thats why tx don't have any bears. I damn sure wouldnt feed a cur dog then lol. No bottom and hard to get one with the hunt of a hound they exist i started with a old male 9 yrs now silent as any dog out there and i have had 3 just like him over the years my buddy has 2 of them and the other i kept. I know its all for laughs but someone tell me what a cur does better than a hound out side of more being silent? Well, where to start?... A good cur who comes from someone who actually has standards will; Hunt for its handler Adjust it's style to fit the handlers Smell any track a hound would, BUT be smart enough to pass some of them in pursuit of more fruitful track Work the track faster and more quietly and some can use their nose faster than a hog can use his legs These Curs have better stock sence and know how to apply pressure better than most hounds. Know that after game is caught its time to roll out and find the rest of the herd or sounder They are generally better at coming back and loading on command They have better homing sence than hounds They start sooner They are smarter They are prettier They are not as prone to that annoying yip (hey guys, wait for me!) as young hounds AND they don't have that big dumb sounding baaaaawwwwwlll. This is all in comparison to the tree bred hounds I've been around. I have had a few hounds and have a few halvsies right now that I like just fine, 1 of them is a REALLY talented strike dog but not a one of them is capable of consistently getting big nasty runnin boars to stop and bay all by themselves. Even my best Hound/cur (who lots of folks really like) cant quite do it solo. The same can not be said for my curs. Each of them is capable of making a hog stop and respect the dog. Some faster than others, but all the curs occupying chain space at mi casa can do it. Traditional tree hounds are pleasure dogs. Some are massively talented and have overland skills that no cur can touch, but as this is a hog dogging related discussion, I will say that until hogs learn to climb trees, tree hounds are slightly out of their element. Hope none of that sounds rude. I tried to be accurate and fair. Just one mans opinion. Plott hounds on the other hand are not tree dogs though are they? And, If memory serves me correctly, plotts were not traditionally pleasure hounds either, right? Isnt it true that plotts until recent time were almost all " meat dogs "? |
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i allways keep this around for just such occasions  |
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One of the best dogs i ever owned was a Silent plott. Got her in georgia in the late 90's. I went thru many others trying to get a silent one and could not do it. Got her because she was silent. Only ran them with Curs and usually by the time they were 2 they opened up and i sold them. plotts are my favorite hound, gritty and lots of hunt. I wish i could find a silent one again.
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There is a guy on here with silent - semi open plotts. His handle is plottman from south Louisiana. Look him up in the dog ads. He doesn't breed unless he needs to restock his yard and he sells some of the other pups. I talked to him a few time. Good guy with good dogs, just an old timer that dont post much. If you find his for sale add call him during the week after 5 or on the weekend.
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Quote from T-Bob....."AND they don't have that big dumb sounding baaaaawwwwwlll." Well now Mr. T-Bob,.....just so you're not mis-informed.....there are those of us that thoroughly enjoy that big, dumb sounding baaaaawwwwllll.....  Just so you know. .... |
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Plott??? Cur??? I don't like the hunting percentages out of the stock cur breeds...too many culls has been my experience...I am sure there are better cur dogs for hog dogging now because so many use them...but I would put my money on a walker/cur cross or a plott/cur cross...or take that shortcut and get get me a well bred mtn cur...even on the mtn cur I like 1/8th pit or 1/4 silent cur from a good line of hog dogs...right now I have pups on the ground that I sure do like the looks of...they are 1/2 parker 1/2 kemmer.... but I am hoping to get me a 5/8th female pup or 2 from my old line of dogs...If that happens one of them will be the nucleus of more to come...  last time I went to try a cur the man free casted 5 dogs and the pig rootings were still smoking and the tracks were shiny with green blades of grass in them...15 minutes later I cast out my 10 month old mtn cur pup and he struck... and we caught 4 with him striking each in less than 1 hour...they were some high powered dogs out of Oklahoma...but I had seen these dogs win big in a bay competition in Lufkin...I wasn't looking for a bay dog...I was looking for a hunting dog with a good baying style... But I will also say that one of the best hog dogs I had the pleasure to hunt behind was a dark yellow red bmc...when this dog started a track he was going to have the bacon shortly...three barks when he located a good track and then he shut up...next time you heard him he was bayed...he could smoke a track too...he came from south texas and he was a cull is why the reason he was sold...true...he broke up bays but it was about gauranteed he was going to have a big one bayed somewhere... I could of bought him for 325 dollars back then...I missed out on a good dog...he was a good looking right sized dog... |
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Quote from T-Bob....."AND they don't have that big dumb sounding baaaaawwwwwlll." Well now Mr. T-Bob,.....just so you're not mis-informed.....there are those of us that thoroughly enjoy that big, dumb sounding baaaaawwwwllll..... Just so you know. .... As my pawpaw used to say, " if every man liked the same thing, your grandma wouldn't never get nothing done."  |
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