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« on: June 26, 2012, 07:44:30 pm » |
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I am having difficulty getting my young dogs off a caught hog.
I don't want to be too rough with them but maybe I need to be. Any advice or tips that work well for you?
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H.Wilson
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 07:46:35 pm » |
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Good question and after "caught hog" is there any way you can some how teach them to roll out again
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hogaholicswife
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 07:56:15 pm » |
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As you are getting them off tell them 'caught hog' and instead of just stuffing them in the dog box still amped up let them sit there and calm down (even if you have to hold them back at first) gradually working up to letting them associate 'caught hog' with backing off and calming down on their own while being loose...but you have to be consistent and realize that it is going to take some serious work / commitment.
Our dogs know it, even the CD and a great thing to teach them but it takes time....rolling out I haven't a clue except that I have read that you have to put them 'back in there' as soon as they are off the hog but while none of our dogs will mess with a caught hog they typically either hang around or go load up on the tool box which we have conditioned them to do so it isn't so much their fault.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 08:56:31 pm » |
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Leave one person at the tied hog. Catch and lead the young dogs away. If they turn and attempt to go back scold them while commanding "Out" or" Caught Hog". If they are hard headed the feller at the caught hog will begin the lesson with a leash across their butts and define the meaning of "Out" and" Caught Hog" to them. If taught properly they will come back past you on their way ...heading out.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2012, 01:53:14 pm » |
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We would just claim the hog as a lead dog would do on a kill. Hover over the hog and tell the dogs in a stern voice "caught hog". I will even so much as stretch my arms out as to let them know to get back or else. Swatting at them if they get too close. Have someone pull them off if they are still too excited to listen. Most of our dogs will obey this command but we have a few that just refuse. I never attempt to teach this to the catch dog. I like to have to force him off the hog and clip him up so if something goes wrong, all we have to do is unclip him.
On rolling out. When ever we put the dogs on the ground at the beginning of a hunt, I have words and cues to get them going like "get ahead, and little sic'm noises. So after I claim the caught hog, I will do the same thing to try to get them in hunt mode again. This takes patients and lots of doing it over and over until they hopefully get it. This is more sucessful if the dogs hit a sounder of hogs and then got one stopped.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2012, 02:58:25 pm » |
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I leaseh them up and have old lady walk them away while telling them caught hog lead them bout 50 yards out and turn um loose as the other fellers and lady said I have lil noise and tell them get ahead or getcha hog and send them out to relay and if they come back like ybm said lease to arse my young dogs have all got the hint that well that was fun let's get another
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justincorbell
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2012, 05:07:15 pm » |
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We would just claim the hog as a lead dog would do on a kill. Hover over the hog and tell the dogs in a stern voice "caught hog". I will even so much as stretch my arms out as to let them know to get back or else. Swatting at them if they get too close. Have someone pull them off if they are still too excited to listen. Most of our dogs will obey this command but we have a few that just refuse. I never attempt to teach this to the catch dog. I like to have to force him off the hog and clip him up so if something goes wrong, all we have to do is unclip him.
On rolling out. When ever we put the dogs on the ground at the beginning of a hunt, I have words and cues to get them going like "get ahead, and little sic'm noises. So after I claim the caught hog, I will do the same thing to try to get them in hunt mode again. This takes patients and lots of doing it over and over until they hopefully get it. This is more sucessful if the dogs hit a sounder of hogs and then got one stopped.
Lol would ol red be in the refuse category??? I can honestly say that i feel more comfortable with that big logger head on an ear than just about any other dog ive hunted with! "the sun is shining somewhere in texas" -Jason Boland |
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djhogdogger
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 05:39:14 pm » |
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We would just claim the hog as a lead dog would do on a kill. Hover over the hog and tell the dogs in a stern voice "caught hog". I will even so much as stretch my arms out as to let them know to get back or else. Swatting at them if they get too close. Have someone pull them off if they are still too excited to listen. Most of our dogs will obey this command but we have a few that just refuse. I never attempt to teach this to the catch dog. I like to have to force him off the hog and clip him up so if something goes wrong, all we have to do is unclip him.
On rolling out. When ever we put the dogs on the ground at the beginning of a hunt, I have words and cues to get them going like "get ahead, and little sic'm noises. So after I claim the caught hog, I will do the same thing to try to get them in hunt mode again. This takes patients and lots of doing it over and over until they hopefully get it. This is more sucessful if the dogs hit a sounder of hogs and then got one stopped.
Lol would ol red be in the refuse category??? I can honestly say that i feel more comfortable with that big logger head on an ear than just about any other dog ive hunted with! "the sun is shining somewhere in texas" -Jason Boland   |
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2012, 05:50:37 am » |
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X2 Dj , if one dog has the dead hog , roll out command down the others will grasp it from him or her , take ownershop of the hog , you are the pack leader , stand over the hog and give the commands , my main dog learnt it from hunting with a plott named annie and the others followed learnt from her , but depending on who you hunt with and the dogs they bring makes this a little harder , say they have a pup and they want him to have all the action Ive had them get pissed when I climb in the middle and start giving the roll out command , { hes just a pup let him do what he wants ] so the people you hunt with need to have the same ideas as you or its very hard to teach , one dog going crazy at a downed hog and not listing , just brings the rest up to that level , handle , handle , handle, once ones got it and you got it the rest will fall in line , as for the bulldogs all they know is catch , Ill get them off when Im ready , no commands for me in this area , mine are in a diffrent frame of mind at this point and theres no listening for them
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