Saltydog Catahoulas--doin' it my way

[Saltydog Catahoulas]

Ed, you think we could come up with enough bucket lids for the gravy?

[ED BARNES]

IM NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. IM OUT, MY WORK WEEK IS DONE AN THE SUNS GONNA BE  SETTING SOON SO IM GOING TO RUN SOME MIXED UP RUSSIAN BEAR DOGS TONIGHT. ILL GET WITH YOU NEXT WEEK ABOUT THE OUTCROSS.

[SCHitemHard]

5 pages and im just now posting? wow... 

[Saltydog Catahoulas]

Hey Ed, Have a great time hunting this weekend. Gravy on a bucket lid for a pan---for the redneck dog that has everything.

[dodgegirl]

I feel like I'm in high school again reading all this lol. Cmon guys, put your big boy pants on stop asking a question that we all know the man isn't going to answer "or that he already answered and it just went over our heads"and go catch some pork 

[rdjustham]

yeah i bred some dogs here and there.  and ill be a man and tell you how they hunted.  JUST LIKE EXPECTED.  Short range gritty catchy dogs!  And i should have another litter on the way, which WILL be short ranged hot nosed ROUGH dogs.

Now its your turn.

How do YOUR dogs hunt?

[Saltydog Catahoulas]

yeah i bred some dogs here and there.  Now its your turn.

" bred some dogs here and there" Wow.
RD, you didn't tell us squat about your breeding program. Imply that the few dogs you DID raise were all exactly alike---what I figured---B.S..

Now answer the question--tell us about your breeding program. Or can't you answer a simple question?

[Saltydog Catahoulas]

Here, RD, I'll help you out a little---here's an example:

My time has loosened up a little, and I’d like to share some of our hogdog philosophies with the honest hearted who are interested. I will tell you about just one of my Saltydogs, for sake of time. He is my newest stud dog, a gorgeous red leopard about 3-1/3 years old, representing about 14 generations of Saltydogs. His name is Saltydog’s Raunchy, and representing about 14 generations of culling hard, and genetic design. First, some back ground which touches a little on the philosophy behind how I view working dogs—my opinions only, but what works for me.

What Saltydogs do,, or how they work or what makes them tick----- for those who are truly interested, I have raised catahoulas for 22+ years. I have sold dogs all over the country, and internationally, with many repeat customers over the years, selling a few for cowdogs, a few for search/rescue, a few for just companions, but most for hogdogs. Why do these customers come back? —simple----    Because they like my dogs—they do what’s expected of them.

How do my dogs work? I was asked this “general” question on a different thread, and a question like that is impossible for me to answer, for this reason, which any real dogman can understand. A '”quick/easy” answer is a shallow thoughtless answer, in my book, and that’s not what I want to give here. As some of you have seen, I will not be prodded into a quick answer to something so deeply rooted in my kennel philosophies, just to satisfy the impatient. There are several major problems that are a key factor about the “how a dog works” question/answer deal.  Here’s a few brief factors that come into play of how “dogs work”, that most good dogmen easily recognize and identify with.

1) Dogs are genetically individuals—and every individual is different. Hypothetically, you can breed two of your best dogs, get a litter of ten puppies. Two of those pups will likely rise above the rest of the litter in ability and achievement. Six of the litter will make good dogs. Yet two will likely be under achievers/culls—not representing their breeding very well. It is nearly impossible to see this play out unless you keep the whole litter for 6 months and work with these pups and really observe their development. Perhaps you have a brother or sister, and as you grow up, it becomes evident many subtle differences.

The way I run my breeding program, is to recognize the traits I want to see expressed in my dogs---my idea of how my catahoulas go about the business of representing what the breed is all about, and through generations of breeding for those traits, my dogs become the rule, not the exception for those desired traits. I have genetically streamlined my dogs.

2) Pilot error. That’s right, the dog’s handler is a HUGE factor in a dogs development for better or worse. I have seen some handlers do all the wrong things and literally kill the working desire in a GOOD dog. People like this should not even be allowed to own a working dog. A good dogman knows how to bring out the BEST in a pup/dog. I know guys who have a yard full of dogs some one else threw away ”stupid dog won’t work, won’t look at a hog---blah-blah-blah”, yet in the hands of a real dogman, these “culls” bloom into great achievers.

3 Personality clash. I have seen good dogmen not get anywhere with an occasional dog. I have personally taken back a dog or two from trusted customers (whom I KNOW their handling abilities and have seen their dogs work fantastic), and placed the same dog with another customer, and the dog excels. Sometimes it’s simply a personality clash. Again, dogs are individual personalities, as are people.

So, the “canned generic wide open for argument” question of “How do your dogs work”, has quite a bit to it, and no simple answers. Boils down to “which dog do you want to ask about?”—remember, they are all individuals.

My current string of dogs vary, just like anyone else’s would. Some dogs will hunt close and some range way out. Some bay back a ways, yet some are gritty enough to go in and catch.  Wouldn’t we all  love to have a yard full of strike dogs, but not every dog is going to finish out as a jam-up strike dog. Just the way it is.

 My best dog is a VERY nice strike dog, and he is who I’ll spend a little time about—‘ole Raunchy. He was baying through the fence at 3 months old—not strong, yet enough to know he would be good some day. 4 months he was in the pen working with the other puppies—still not strong, but yet he was showing enough. He was about 8 months old when he was introduced to the woods---a little late for what I like, but never the less---------This pup was paired up with a jam up strike dog bitch my friend has (acquired from my kennel, an amazing story how this bitch was rescued, and turned into an incredible strike dog—another time on this story, though) The pup went out his first 19 times with his mother and had a hog caught 19 times. It was what we call a “honey-hole”—perfect for training woods dogs. Most of his early hogs were about 100 lb shoats—ideal size. A couple of the later catches packed some hard core size—350 LB range. (we do not use catch dogs)  Since then, this dog has gotten stronger and stronger in distance and try. His best run, according to our Garmin, he ran out of the tracker’s range, and half hour later run back in, on a running hog. 18 miles is what the Garmin recorded. He’s the kind of a dog, when you start a hunt, he hangs around for about 15 minutes, and starts to move out to about 300 yards, then on out to about 700-1200 yards. I do know, we have followed hunters through the woods by an hour or two, and pick up hogs their dogs missed. So goes quality. Small hogs, he will just snatch up. Bigger, he waits for support, then goes in. His name is Saltydog’s Raunchy. He is an own son of my old Saltydog’s Legbone and out of Saltydog’s Nevermind, who is a daughter to Saltydog’s Earl out of Saltydog’s Eva.  Earl goes back to the hardest knocking gritty strike dogs ever out of my kennel, and that’s the old Bozo/Haint cross. Raunchy represents the rangier built dogs—built for speed and endurance. He weighs 65lbs.

More later/another time.

[Circle C]

rdjustham and salty dog,


Don't y'all think the bickering has pretty well run it's course....   It's pretty clear that neither of you care for each other, yet you both continue to bait each other.

[Saltydog Catahoulas]

rdjustham and salty dog,


Don't y'all think the bickering has pretty well run it's course....   It's pretty clear that neither of you care for each other, yet you both continue to bait each other.

A some dude keeps on "coming at me" stirring up BS and attacking my character/integritty, are you going to deny me defense? Let HIM answer some stupid questions for a change--let's hear why he thinks he's some kind of an expert. Or are you siding with him like administrator Mikey does? I'd be just as proud if you terminated my membership. The smart ones on this forum know how to reach me, if they want. It was a mistake joining your forum, sir. But now that I'm here, I'm going to defend myself.

[BA-IV]

Mikes done told you he don't terminate membership.  You done asked once, and said you wouldn't be back and here's this thread after those threats so I highly doubt you leave this time. 

Free advertisement is great ain't it    that was a joke by the way, so don't get all upset over it.

[Saltydog Catahoulas]

Mikes done told you he don't terminate membership.  You done asked once, and said you wouldn't be back and here's this thread after those threats so I highly doubt you leave this time. 

Free advertisement is great ain't it    that was a joke by the way, so don't get all upset over it.

You got a dog in this fight BA? Butt out.

[BA-IV]

Like I told you before, it's a public forum so if you wanna leave then LEAVE.  That simple.  If you don't like my opinions or my postings ignore them and butt out of your own thread 

[t.wilbanks]

i dont see why yall keep trying to find out how the mans dogs hunt... The only time ive seen a catahoula hunt is when it was trying to find the exit of the baypen...                 salty dog, id like to ask how you hunt??  Do you road, walk, cast, hood hunt your dogs?? When you drop your dogs, do you sit and wait for them to strike or do you push them until they roll out or get into fresh sign??

[Circle C]

It was directed at both of you, for obvious reasons.


Nobody asked you to come to ETHD and "set the record straight" and nobody is twisting your arm and making you continue to post, even after you say you are done, and have better things to do.

When you came to ETHD, some people asked some genuine questions, and they were not answered at all, or the answer was so vague that their BS meter started going off.   

I am not siding with either member, as I think both of you are being petty to each other. Now, what Mike said is correct, we don't delete memberships, but we do ban them as needed.  I'll be sure and leave these threads up so that people can make educated decisions about where they want to do business.

[rdjustham]

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[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

i dont see why yall keep trying to find out how the mans dogs hunt... The only time ive seen a catahoula hunt is when it was trying to find the exit of the baypen...    

Hahahahahah.   Dang son....still hacking up a bag of cheetos I just got lodged in my lungs from laughing so hard! 

Disclaimer:

The views and snyde remarks that YELLOWBLACKMASK chooses to snicker at............are in no way directed toward the hinderance of any dog entrepreneur or prophalactic salesman.   

[M-town hoggin]

Same old klan of easttex clowns ganging up on a honest fellow. When the question turns on another man they cant answer the same question.  Lets all gang up on this guy. Get a f***ing life yall loosers!

[Circle C]

[drew]

i never herd if anybody even seen or herd of any of the mans dogs much less hunt them they might be all right