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« Reply #100 on: July 13, 2012, 03:18:25 pm »

I can't speak for the rest of his dogs but i did see one bay at a baying in dekalb and i can tell you that was one rough son of a buck.
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« Reply #101 on: July 13, 2012, 03:23:19 pm »

Might not matter to any one here but I have known James and Saltydogs for about 15 years.  He's like me raising and working his own dogs and likes what he has.  What I say on this board might not mean much to all but a few has some of my dogs and are pleased with the way they hunt.

I have both registered Catahoula's and Registered Black Mouths and good and bad in both breeds, I have seen it.  Bred the best and cull the rest.
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« Reply #102 on: July 13, 2012, 03:26:11 pm »

Mr Mason if you dont mind since you know him and his dogs could you let us know how they hunt?  Its all anyone wanted to know but was like pulling teeth.  I would really still like to know.  the man seems knowledgeable enough and some of us were genuinly curios.  If you dont wanna post it could you send me a PM?
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« Reply #103 on: July 13, 2012, 05:04:36 pm »

The ones I have hunted and seen hunt are a med. range dog with a lot of nose and grit.  Some excell in the bay pen but I like to see a good bay but want the dog to be able to find the hog in the woods.   The ones I have seem I would feed.
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« Reply #104 on: July 13, 2012, 06:17:26 pm »

I hunted with 1 of his dogs here in Hawaii.  dog is dead now. but he was a pretty gritty  dog. his name was. Maggie
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« Reply #105 on: July 13, 2012, 06:53:37 pm »

Mr mason I dont knox you personally but hear a lot of good things I respect your word and if you say they are good to go then I trust that. Aint never hunted a full catahoula but have wanted to for a while if there aint one too pricey I might give it a shot
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« Reply #106 on: July 13, 2012, 07:22:59 pm »

rdjustham looks to me like you should have just stayed out of it! anybody that knows anything about hog dogs no matter what breed or blood line they come from can be trained to be aither rough or just stand back and bay! Everyone has their own likes and dislikes about what they want a dog to do while hunting. My preferance is to have a rough dog that listens to my commands, see if your good enough to breed that into a dog. if you can you will be the best breeder ever. lines are bred for intelligence, looks, strength, nose, instinct, and looks, the rest is up to the trainer to teach. there is no right or wrong about breeding dogs just likes and dislikes of the breeder and how the trainer molds each dog into!
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« Reply #107 on: July 13, 2012, 07:53:15 pm »

and since you didnt reply to another question, ill assume your opinion of me is, hard headed, honest and a straight shooter.  thanks  Grin
Moer like another guy who dont know how to pick a dog out of a litter or how to train a dog to hunt the way he wants and blend with his pack to improve his success!
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« Reply #108 on: July 13, 2012, 08:25:43 pm »

and since you didnt reply to another question, ill assume your opinion of me is, hard headed, honest and a straight shooter.  thanks  Grin
Moer like another guy who dont know how to pick a dog out of a litter or how to train a dog to hunt the way he wants and blend with his pack to improve his success!

I'm pretty sure RD just asked the guy some simple questions that ALOT of people were asking him. rD just took it further then anyone else, which most didn't care enough to do it.

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« Reply #109 on: July 13, 2012, 08:33:21 pm »

I've hunted behind his pups. Didbt think pf it it as doggin as all. We was on pigs I seen everytime but dog didn't wanna trail. Yet they stumble on one its caught bulldogs not needed. So my opinion if you wNt to trail pigs ur self n have a bulldog. Ud b better off. Like I said with the ones I hunted behind. Also they are beautiful spotted dogs if u catch my drift. More color less hunt. Altho he sells all colors

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« Reply #110 on: July 13, 2012, 09:16:11 pm »

rdjustham looks to me like you should have just stayed out of it! anybody that knows anything about hog dogs no matter what breed or blood line they come from can be trained to be aither rough or just stand back and bay!
Train a dog to be rough or loose...there you go, I learn something new every day. How do you go about training a dog to be rough? Just wondering because I've got an 8 year old gyp that'll sure enough find a hog if it's in the area. But she won't lay a tooth on it unless a rough dog is there with her. I'd appreciate any training tips you can offer.
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« Reply #111 on: July 13, 2012, 09:17:55 pm »

and since you didnt reply to another question, ill assume your opinion of me is, hard headed, honest and a straight shooter.  thanks  Grin
Moer like another guy who dont know how to pick a dog out of a litter or how to train a dog to hunt the way he wants and blend with his pack to improve his success!

Umm.. Im not going to defend myself, i along with alot of other people asked the man multiple, MULTIPLE times on multiple threads a simple question.  "how his dogs hunted"  Mr MAson was able to answer a question bout another man's dogs that he didnt want to answer himself for what ever his reasons were.  

The bottom line is he came here to market his dogs but didnt want to give any info.  And i called him on it.  Looking back, what do i care, i live a long way away from him and the reality of me getting a dog from him would be slim and none.

Now i will give some advice here since based on your post cound you are fairly new here.  before i called anyone out on here i would A: know how the mods react, especially since you and I have had NO conversation and you just come on out with it.

B:  know who your talking about.  There are a lot of guys and gals here who are very knowledgeable ( wouldnt say im one of them though  Grin)

Oh and welcome to the boards.


Oh and Thanks BA-IV i realize i took it to far but good gosh, didint see the trick question, if anyone took offense I apologize but i think we were all after the same thin
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« Reply #112 on: July 13, 2012, 09:20:48 pm »

The ones I have hunted and seen hunt are a med. range dog with a lot of nose and grit.  Some excell in the bay pen but I like to see a good bay but want the dog to be able to find the hog in the woods.   The ones I have seem I would feed.

Thanks Mr Mason.  Ive heard alot about you and even though we have never met from seeing the dogs that ive been told came from your yard and how they hunt it sounds like i would def want one.

I like a short ranged rough dog and am preferable to a good bred yell Fl cur dog outta cow stock, but i really like the colors leopards throw and would prob still be beggin the man for more pics.

Thanks again for the info.
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« Reply #113 on: July 13, 2012, 09:32:02 pm »

Good Gawdddddddddd!!!!!  Took me a hour to read most of this .  I have really no ideal who you are Salty Dog but if you been breeding dogs for 22 years thats a long time I have to respect that in itself .  As a long time breeder of dogs myself I can understand not keeping all the dogs and sending some out to people that might have a little flaw here are there as long as the man knew and I told him about it sure the dog might make him a excellent dog.  I can understand that and you could not  use it in your program because of your standards but still it could make a dog for another man .

I would be willing to bet that if you are a true breeder of good dogs that some of those dogs you did not use in your program but sent out to a people that wanted them anyway I bet ya some of those dogs if bred true as you say ended up producing dogs as good as you had and maybe better.  I have seen this many many times over the years its not always the perfect dogs that becomes sometimes the best producer of all in certain bloodlines .  In the old bulldog game we could not do this it would end up bitting us in the ass at a later point in head to head competition but in the hog dogs I could see were a man would let some lesser dogs go out that did not fit his breeding program but could help another man out now Am not talking about dead on culls but dogs that had a nick here and a nick there noting major just not fitting your standards to stay in your kennels .  Its not a crime .  Like I said if bred true it very well could come back and bite you in the ass.  I have sent some dogs out that are not my best but if you ask some of the people that own them and some that have seen them they will tell you real quick they fit the bill.  Same as when I had the bulldogs its not always the best dog that makes the most impact of a bloodline .

Good luck .
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« Reply #114 on: July 13, 2012, 09:41:41 pm »

Same old klan of easttex clowns ganging up on a honest fellow. When the question turns on another man they cant answer the same question.  Lets all gang up on this guy. Get a f***ing life yall loosers!

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« Reply #115 on: July 13, 2012, 09:59:20 pm »

Good Gawdddddddddd!!!!!  Took me a hour to read most of this .  I have really no ideal who you are Salty Dog but if you been breeding dogs for 22 years thats a long time I have to respect that in itself .  As a long time breeder of dogs myself I can understand not keeping all the dogs and sending some out to people that might have a little flaw here are there as long as the man knew and I told him about it sure the dog might make him a excellent dog.  I can understand that and you could not  use it in your program because of your standards but still it could make a dog for another man .

I would be willing to bet that if you are a true breeder of good dogs that some of those dogs you did not use in your program but sent out to a people that wanted them anyway I bet ya some of those dogs if bred true as you say ended up producing dogs as good as you had and maybe better.  I have seen this many many times over the years its not always the perfect dogs that becomes sometimes the best producer of all in certain bloodlines .  In the old bulldog game we could not do this it would end up bitting us in the ass at a later point in head to head competition but in the hog dogs I could see were a man would let some lesser dogs go out that did not fit his breeding program but could help another man out now Am not talking about dead on culls but dogs that had a nick here and a nick there noting major just not fitting your standards to stay in your kennels .  Its not a crime .  Like I said if bred true it very well could come back and bite you in the ass.  I have sent some dogs out that are not my best but if you ask some of the people that own them and some that have seen them they will tell you real quick they fit the bill.  Same as when I had the bulldogs its not always the best dog that makes the most impact of a bloodline .

Good luck .

With all of this said now .  If in 22 years and you U let some of  these dogs out that did not fit your program but still bred second to none and you tell me that noting produced as good are better than what you had in your kennel then I will be the first to tell you I find that hard to believe and the only explanation for that is your dogs are not bred as true and good as you say are think they are.  If dogs are not tested true for the sport and puppys are being sold then that is called puppy milling and peddlers.

Am just putting it in black and white all horse chit aside!  I know I been there 30 years worth of dealing with dogs and people.  I

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« Reply #116 on: July 13, 2012, 10:17:30 pm »

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« Reply #117 on: July 13, 2012, 10:38:25 pm »



Lol ain't that the truth

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« Reply #118 on: July 13, 2012, 10:55:13 pm »

Wow this thread is heated but okay. Peachcreek I don't think he ever answered you question about you dog though

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« Reply #119 on: July 14, 2012, 01:28:46 am »



Well played!!!!'


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