rdjustham
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« on: July 12, 2012, 03:10:05 pm » |
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Recent thread has me wondering. So i want to do a little educational research. Im sure i know the outcome, however it could just be my opinion so here goes:
For those of you who have been breeding the same line of dogs for years (multiple generations) does your line have a tendency to hunt a certain way? Now no two dogs are exactly the same, but I want to know if the hunting tendancies are similiar, IE rough, loose, short/ long range etc.
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YELLOWBLACKMASK
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2012, 03:38:51 pm » |
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Not wanting to fume any spillage from other recent posts....but Yes.
That is why the lines are continued..to reproduce the same consistency in desired traits. Even lines that are hunted and kept together but differ in breeding should be some what repetitive in traits if bred correctly.
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Bryant
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2012, 03:44:03 pm » |
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I haven't been breeding but for four generations deep on my yard, but the dogs I'm breeding come from a line that has been bred (pretty tightly I might add) for a very long time. To answer your question, ABSOLUTELY they do and I always thought that was the whole point...to get more of just what you like.
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M Bennet
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2012, 04:00:36 pm » |
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iv been breeding the same bmc for ten yr now and they still come short range and very rough , this is wat i like and so far these dogs have stayed this way for me. i dont plan on changing anything . iv started my catahoula breed and it will be done the same way. they are loose bay and hunt a little farther. i use the 2 breeds together and it works fine for me.
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Monty Bennet
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cward
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 04:02:57 pm » |
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Yes sir. All my dog are pretty dang consistent. On how they work. If I send you a pup I can pretty much tell you how its going to work and its style of working. Weather on cows or hogs. The tighter the dog breed for the traits I look for the more I can tell about the pups.
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Peachcreek
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 05:20:34 pm » |
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This was what i was getting at with my original question... If a man has bred "his" line of dogs for much time at all he should know how they should hunt. My uncle ran walkers on coons for most of my life and he could dang sure tell u how his dogs hunted as a rule. I have only been messing with my for about five years and i can already tell you what to expect from my line. Some are like used a car salesman they want u to call and talk so they can feel u out and then sell a dog that is promised to do what ever it it is u like, because what ever u described that u like is what their dogs do. I have been down that road before. If someone cant tell u how their dogs hunt it is because they dont know (because they dont hunt)...
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Reuben
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 06:05:38 pm » |
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. Some are like used a car salesman they want u to call and talk so they can feel u out and then sell a dog that is promised to do what ever it it is u like, because what ever u described that u like is what their dogs do. I have been down that road before. If someone cant tell u how their dogs hunt it is because they dont know (because they dont hunt)... x2...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2012, 07:17:06 pm » |
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I've had two litters of dogs outta my two best dogs and then I've bred two litter of catahoulas outta the same male so outta 4 litters I can dang sure tell you how those pups are gonna hunt, like there parents they hunt from 600-900 yards making loops and checking in every so often. They will keep doing this until they find a pig, bay em up and as soon as the catchdog gets there they catch if not already caught. I have 1 female that isn't as catchy but she will if my male does. So I'm gonna pretty much know they are gonna hunt the way there parents do because I bred those two dogs that hunt alike and show constancy. If that made sense lol:D
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Purebreedcolt
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2012, 07:53:10 pm » |
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Haven't bred dogs like that of my own but have a male and from the start he hunted just like the guys dogs I got him from did he started this from the first time I took him out. I sent him back last summer to him to hunt because I did not get to hunt and he took him hunting and a guy that has hunted with him for a while it took him a while to figure out that this was a new dog to him because he hunted just the same as the rest of the dogs on the ground so yes defiantly with a line there is consistency good or bad.
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TexasHogDogs
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Been breeding mine for a while now and can tell you just about what a young dog is going to do . Not much variation and they stay very consistent .
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rdjustham
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x3 really? WOW!! Yes really. This thread wasnt directed towards you so please move on. Thanks.
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x3 really? WOW!! Yes really. This thread wasnt directed towards you so please move on. Thanks. Salty Dog won't be posting on ETHD any more.
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I have three line bred bmc from the same line, there not my line and was very lucky to get , craig loftin bred these dogs for years and I believe what he has told me about these dogs, they are all female , one 11 yrs + , one 7 yrs and one at 2 and a half , the oldest [ sally ] is real leggy , she hunts out the farthest of the three , a super dog , she is also the kind of dog that always seems to find pork , candy the next one she seems to wanna hang back and not want to hunt out as far , sometimes it frustrates me but when she hits a track she will stay with it for miles and will roll out till she cant walk , maybe a slower starter , the youngest of the line hasnt reached there level yet , she hunts but comes back alot more and doesnt seem as focused , im giving her another season , my favorite out of candys last litter was killed so I kept her, but not to disagree or argue just fact , these dogs all will hunt and any hog hunter would luv to have , but they all hunt diffrent and all shine at diffrent times
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this is exactly what i know to be true everyone has their likes and dislikes and ill bet anything I could take a dog that comes from a line that is rough and short range and make them long range and loose baying. everyones dogs will work the way you train them to work and will follow the way your pack works!
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this is exactly what i know to be true everyone has their likes and dislikes and ill bet anything I could take a dog that comes from a line that is rough and short range and make them long range and loose baying. everyones dogs will work the way you train them to work and will follow the way your pack works!
Could you take that same dog and train him to be exactly what you want WITHOUT that pack. Putting dog onthe ground by himself and expecting him to get it done consistently is totally different then throwing a dog down with other dogs and letting him pack up. Going by your statement, you oughta have a yard full of straight up hog dogs, and you oughta be able to go right down to the pound and get em to do it. I just don't buy that.
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cward
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this is exactly what i know to be true everyone has their likes and dislikes and ill bet anything I could take a dog that comes from a line that is rough and short range and make them long range and loose baying. everyones dogs will work the way you train them to work and will follow the way your pack works!
Ok man you got me. Sorry but people on ethd im to lazy to train my dogs so I just breed them to work and the ones I cant train I cull. Whooooooo take a deep breath glad I got that off my chest everyone knows now.Lmao
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« Last Edit: July 13, 2012, 10:31:09 pm by cward »
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Hog hunting can start more crap than anything I have ever seen!(HDLCrystal) Remember John Wayne was just an actor the real cowboys is who he looked up to..........
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