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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2012, 10:03:53 pm »

My Dot female was the best dog I ever hunted with. She went to Punch three times and Jordans Henry once. Punch and Henry were littermates and grandsons of Big Boy and Blondie. She is 14 and the closest to the Big Boy Blondie cross left alive. Bear and Sarah, the dogs we lost to alligators this year were full brother and sister to her, 5 years younger. She was small and heavy haired, a tireless hunter, super cold nose, endless bottom and make hogs do her will. I have had her stay on a hog all day and all night across a flooded river in the middle of January. A guy from La. brought some good Plott hounds over to hunt one time and we went to a cutover milo field. I gave him first shot and the hounds could smell hogs, but couldn't open on it or line it out. I turned Dot loose and she left running on the track like she was looking at the hog and bayed 5 or 6 hundred yards out in a matter of minutes. I've seen her bay sounders and swing out in the woods and put more hogs in the group. I've seen sounders break and she stop the whole bunch several times. She would roll out as soon as the catch dog was turned loose and bay hogs 'till you caught her. IT didn't get too hot, too cold, too wet or anything else for her. Big Ben got to see her nose a couple of years ago. Art Lee, who won the Cur world hunt a few years ago,said she was the best dog he had ever seen.
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2012, 10:11:05 pm »

Big O.....She sounds like something special.

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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2012, 10:14:55 pm »

bigo.i like wat u said about never to hot,cold,wet or dry for your dog to perform,ive always said u dont have to make excuses for good dogs they get the job done.i hate to hear excuses about a dog for not performing.if a dog dont like to hunt at night,or is shy around people or other dogs they just are not number ones u dont have to make excuses for the great ones.
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2012, 10:22:15 pm »

Great stories guys. Keep em coming. Some of us can only hope to look back one day and speak of dogs like these
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2012, 10:41:30 pm »

bigo.i like wat u said about never to hot,cold,wet or dry for your dog to perform,ive always said u dont have to make excuses for good dogs they get the job done.i hate to hear excuses about a dog for not performing.if a dog dont like to hunt at night,or is shy around people or other dogs they just are not number ones u dont have to make excuses for the great ones.
I believe that the heavy coat that shows up sometimes in Bigo breeding actually helps the dogs in the heat and briars, it is hard to believe it but it really does help. The only time that I had the pleasure to hunt with Dot it was a freezing azz morning, the ground was froze solid. We drove the mule about a mile in this place, seen some rooting that was froze over on the way there not worth putting down on. Bigo sent Dot and Bear into this thick patch, When Bigo sends his dogs they go the direction he points everytime. Dot was not having it, she spun around and went back the way we come, she was running the road like a pup. Bear headed with her, stopped and looked back to see if he was gonna get in trouble. Not a minute later that ole dog was bayed solid on a group of big hogs. There was absolutley no breeze so I know she didnt wind them from the box, she smelt the scent from the frozen rooting from the box. It blew my mind and then on I was gonna get me some of these dogs no way around it. I just wish I would of found Bigo a few years earlier to see her in her prime. Oh yea we ended up with a boar around 250 that almost had me for breakfast.
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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2012, 11:04:41 pm »

these sorts of stories is why I come here...don't stop now fellas....
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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2012, 08:58:23 am »

Erik's Roscoe dog is the best I've ever seen. Uncle and great uncle to the dogs he has now. This dog would do it all. I got to start hunting with him as a 5 year old. In that 3 year span, he was a one man wrecking crew. He finished 99% of the hogs he started.  Didn't matter if it was the dead of summer or 12 hours into a hunt, he had no quit. Not just the bottom he possessed that was so special, this dog would hunt too. He would take you to the hogs, even he had to go miles to find them. He was always saved for afternoon hunts because he could get it done no matter the conditions. A good many days of we would be going into the "hopeful" last bay of the day and say  F the hog, somebody catch the damn Red dog because if not he'd pull off and go finish another. 



Boogie runs a close second. Hands down COLDEST nosed cur dog you'll ever see. Coming on 4 in a month or so. He still has his best years ahead of him. This is another no quit, go as far it takes to find them type dog. He's another one man show

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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2012, 10:28:33 am »

The best I ever hunted behind was a dog I called Abby.  Kinda funny story how she came about.  A number of years ago I had been looking for a plott dog to play around with.  I had come in contact with a guy from up around Paris, TX that had what I thought I was looking for.  I drove up to this guys place one Saturday morning and long story short the dog I went to look at just didn't excite me much.  However, on a chain across the yard I saw what I thought was the best looking yellow brindle female I had ever seen.  I inquired about the dog and he said she was a well started dog...hunted pretty good but wasn't for sale.  I told him I'd be real interested (don't know what I was thinking....I knew better even back then to buy a dog based on looks but there was something about her) if he would sell her to me but he was pretty sure that he wanted to keep her, so I ended up leaving empty handed and drove 6 hours back home.

About two days later, the guy calls and says if I was still interested in that brindle gyp that I could come have her for $150.  I told him I would be there the next day and so I drove all the way back up there and picked her up.

The following weekend, I took her hunting and as my luck would have it she wouldn't leave...wouldn't hunt...and when we caught a hog she wouldn't have anything to do with it.  Started dog my azz!!  (I found out later on that this guy was a big-time dog peddler).  So, I set about working this dog from the beginning...laying tracks...mock hunts...a little work in the pen.  Wasn't a few months later, and she quickly began her journey towards occupying the #1 kennel.

Even at a year and a half old, Abby was what I consider the best I've hunted.  She was SUPER fast on a track, would hunt as deep as I would give her time to hunt and had a working style all her own.  It was fun watching her cast into a block of woods, then come blazing out of the woods a hundred yards down or so working back and forth on the ground, then hit a 180 and back in knowing she was running the track the wrong way.  I got to where I would purposely hold her back when hunting with other folks, let other dogs make a round and then put her out.  9 times out of 10, she would come bayed somewhere.  In fact, Richard Walker on here had come out and hunt with me one weekend shortly before she died and witnessed me put her out to times behind other dogs and her strike.  Impressive is what she was.

I lost Abby in Oct. of 2008 at a young age of almost 3 years old to a fungal infection in her lungs called Histomycosis that she picked up while hunting.  Unfortunately I never bred her before she died.  A good while later, I was able to run down the guy I got her from and he was less than helpful about providing me info about her.  I made mention (just to see what he would say) that I would probably pay upwards of a couple thousand dollars to have another from the same breeding and he started to back-peddle saying this and that....at which point I told him a few things my momma probably wouldn't be proud I had said.

Still miss this dog...





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« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2012, 10:32:24 am »

CHris,
   The gyp was fixed due to some problems during labor. I had a male and female pup from that litter. Bryant,Scott and I all worked on those pups. I gave the female back to Scott  and the male is in a back yard down south. I held on to them for year and a half. THey had no desire to bark at a hog. My pup from Bryant, cash/buck x Madison , is doing well. Almost a year and on track to make a dog.
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« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2012, 10:37:08 am »

Those pups you had from that Blue Eyed Bitch were sure good looking dogs, but dang if I didn't try every trick in the book and the one I worked with had ZERO desire to work any stock at all even at a year and a half old.
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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2012, 08:51:27 pm »

Cward.....Its your turn.  Time to stop politickin or cattle rustlin or what ever your doin and spill the beans

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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2012, 10:37:02 pm »

The single best dog I,ever hunted behind was a,bitch named,puddin. She was a Woodruff linenreed dog with a tad bit,of hutto dog in her. She had a cold nose drive to hunt a such a natural working,hearding ability to her. She could,read a,human and tell what they were thinking. It was really amazing to see a dog think about what,is going on. Sometimes I wonder how smart she really was. she was a producer. She was the kind that good sure enough get a hog up when nothing else could. I think that a dog can be breed to stop running hogs but not by force or pressure by out thinking a hog. I believe it just because of this single dog showed me things that was amazing . I told the owner of this dog one time that I would tell other hunters about what she could do. Not only did he say but the other 3 cowboys standing there said people just cant believe it cause they just ain't never seen it. The guy who owed her was never out to prove anything with hos dog or dogs. So they were never showed off to alot of people.

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« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2012, 05:25:01 am »

The single best dog I,ever hunted behind was a,bitch named,puddin. She was a Woodruff linenreed dog with a tad bit,of hutto dog in her. She had a cold nose drive to hunt a such a natural working,hearding ability to her. She could,read a,human and tell what they were thinking. It was really amazing to see a dog think about what,is going on. Sometimes I wonder how smart she really was. she was a producer. She was the kind that good sure enough get a hog up when nothing else could. I think that a dog can be breed to stop running hogs but not by force or pressure by out thinking a hog. I believe it just because of this single dog showed me things that was amazing . I told the owner of this dog one time that I would tell other hunters about what she could do. Not only did he say but the other 3 cowboys standing there said people just cant believe it cause they just ain't never seen it. The guy who owed her was never out to prove anything with hos dog or dogs. So they were never showed off to alot of people.



Cward...I think what you just described about the smarts of the Puddin bitch dog is the main difference between a once in a lifetime dog and a great dog...The once in a lifetime dog will have a colder nose and the ability to think...we can breed dogs that can find a hog behind a pack of dogs that went thru the woods just ahead of your pack... and then your pack goes in right behind that pack and strike and catch a hog...but the once in a lifetime dog will have the nose and the brain power that is head and shoulders above that of the above average good hunting dog...I don't believe a dog of a lifetime can reproduce itself because it is outside the norm...if they could we would see more of them...
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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2012, 05:52:43 am »

TShelly...I wouldn't mind having a few Roscoes in my back yard... Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2012, 07:58:16 am »

The single best dog I,ever hunted behind was a,bitch named,puddin. She was a Woodruff linenreed dog with a tad bit,of hutto dog in her. She had a cold nose drive to hunt a such a natural working,hearding ability to her. She could,read a,human and tell what they were thinking. It was really amazing to see a dog think about what,is going on. Sometimes I wonder how smart she really was. she was a producer. She was the kind that good sure enough get a hog up when nothing else could. I think that a dog can be breed to stop running hogs but not by force or pressure by out thinking a hog. I believe it just because of this single dog showed me things that was amazing . I told the owner of this dog one time that I would tell other hunters about what she could do. Not only did he say but the other 3 cowboys standing there said people just cant believe it cause they just ain't never seen it. The guy who owed her was never out to prove anything with hos dog or dogs. So they were never showed off to alot of people.

Ruben she produced them. The very first dog that i started with had puddin in him 3 times. These guys new what she was and had a plain. I got him in 1991. It took me tell 1997 to relise what I had I was young and dumb. I even tried all these super crosses with every breed to make a super dog. Thats when a cowboy told me in 1996 that you have the best blood now breed them. So I found some more of it and kept it going. To me I really hate to brag on my dogs. So i will only brag on the ones that are dead. Ruben theres been 14 dogs on this place that would match her or I might say alitte better. Everyone of them was breed to clone her. I had a cowboy tell me one time. You only have one good dog ,one good horse and one good women in your lifetime. If he was alive today I would tell him that he was wrong. I have rode a many of good horse because of gentics and owned some pretty damn good dogs because of gentics. I have not worked on the gentics in the women. But I do have a saying . If they keep breeding the bucking bulls to buck they are going to have to breed the cowboys to ride them.,I think it would have to start with a Larry Mahan granddaughter and cross her with a Chris shivers.lol




Cward...I think what you just described about the smarts of the Puddin bitch dog is the main difference between a once in a lifetime dog and a great dog...The once in a lifetime dog will have a colder nose and the ability to think...we can breed dogs that can find a hog behind a pack of dogs that went thru the woods just ahead of your pack... and then your pack goes in right behind that pack and strike and catch a hog...but the once in a lifetime dog will have the nose and the brain power that is head and shoulders above that of the above average good hunting dog...I don't believe a dog of a lifetime can reproduce itself because it is outside the norm...if they could we would see more of them...
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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2012, 02:58:48 pm »

Gosh dang man my name shouldn't even be in the title with these guys makes me blush a little with caliber of dogs these guys have . Exspecially cward when he turns out he ties 10 or 15 every time hell my dogs do good catching that a week!

Any way I have had some dam nice dogs thru the years that anybody would be proud to own they were all the same as these men have described just go wonder and getter done type of dogs didn't matter the circumstances  Wink
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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2012, 03:48:23 pm »

Lion boar sure is one to brag!    Lol is that all?   I have been watching this post to see what he had to say!  Noah you are good with words maby you could help!   I'm poking with respect, this has been a very good post on some great dogs and what kind of dogs a person should strive to have, lots of info for a person to use to look at there dogs and others dogs!   Lion boar you remind me of several old gone but not forgotten cowboys with your being so humble!
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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2012, 04:34:54 pm »

Lion boar sure is one to brag!    Lol is that all?   I have been watching this post to see what he had to say!  Noah you are good with words maby you could help!   I'm poking with respect, this has been a very good post on some great dogs and what kind of dogs a person should strive to have, lots of info for a person to use to look at there dogs and others dogs!   Lion boar you remind me of several old gone but not forgotten cowboys with your being so humble!
x1000! You all get the job done with class and style! Great looking dogs everyone! And I hope to have at least one dog of that caliber before I'm dead and gone... Great post guys and thanks for sharing!
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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2012, 06:27:16 pm »

I will add a few more of Roscoe's amazing feats. One of the more impressive things he used to do was back trail the first hog after we had gotten there and caught it; he'd go find the rest of the hogs that were with the first hog. In his prime there were a good many hunts where if he struck a sounder of hogs, there was a really high possibility that we were about tie every hog in that group. 

Another hunt we were hunting some real open country. It was daylight and the dogs were rolling good we had tied 6 when the whole pack went across a 2 mile pasture to another block of woods. As we were leaving going to the rest of the dogs we could hear Roscoe bayed back behind us! 8 hours later we had finally caught the rest of the dogs and got back to our original block of woods where Roscoe was still bayed.


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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2012, 06:46:24 pm »

I will add a few more of Roscoe's amazing feats. One of the more impressive things he used to do was back trail the first hog after we had gotten there and caught it; he'd go find the rest of the hogs that were with the first hog.

That is a cool deal. I've seen my older one do that several times but didn't realize that was she was doing the first few times. But sure as shoot even if she was on the roll out after the first few, if she doesn't like the wind shell go back past the first hog and turn up a roll fest.

I'm out of town this coming week but when I get back Me and josh wanna have you come down to the grain fields still.
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