Heatstroke

[Td3 dogs n hogs]

My ace number 1 strike dog had a heat stroke today. It's my own damn fault for trying to hunt in this heat. I have herd of dogs having heat strokes but never really worried about it. That all changed today the dogs bayed on up about 200 out. The hog broke on em and ran about 800 I knew I shouldn't be out there in the heat it was about 5 o'clock they stayed gone for a while. They slowly started coming back they were real hot I never seen dogs get so hot. I noticed my buddy's catch dog was dragging his back legs like he was really tired. All the dogs were back except for bubba. So we drove the dogs to tank close by so they could get some water. Then my buddy noticed bubba stumbling down the road about 200 yards behind us. He looked dizzy or drunk he was having trouble keeping his balance.and he was kinda drooling  I had no clue what was going on I was kinda thinking heat stroke but I had never seen a dog have one so I didint no what to look for. I took him to the tank and layed him in a shaded area. I noticed he could not stand up so I just let him lay in the edge of the water. I set there fir about 30 min watching and hoping he would get up and act normal. So eventually I put him in the front seat and cranked up the ac brought him home and put him in some cool water. The ac and water cooled him down. But he's not drinking or eating. He does stand up on his own now. And acts like he's getting better   And when I talk to him he tries to wag his tell. HeI been shooting some gateraid . down him. Am I doing the right thing? Any ideas or tips. What should I expect. Will he make it? Any advice/coments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance

[dodgegirl]

My friends main catch dog was cut up so we brought his back up " shouldn't leave the house" dog , and he hadn't been Run for awhile , we had the same thing happen and I wanna say for about 3 days that dog didn't do anything but lay in his pen. We weren't real sure if he was gonna make it.  We made sure he was drinking tho and he eventually came around and was back to himself.

[Td3 dogs n hogs]

Did your friends dog drink on it's own or did y'all have to force liquids down it. Mine hasn't drank anything since about 630 I  been putting gateraid down him but he threw up about a hour ago.

[M Bennet]

he will heat stroke easer now

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

Give him Pedialyte to drink. Syring it to him if you have to. Offer him a bland diet. Chicken and white rice is good and bland. He should come around. Depending on just how high his temp got, he could have permanant damage, neurologically. Over the years at work I have seen dogs lose their sight, and become partially paralyzed from severe heat stroke.

When it first happens, it's good to soak em down, and apply alcohol to the pads of their feet and their ears. It can be dangerous to cool them TOO fast as well, so you gotta fo it in moderation.

Hopefully your boy pulls through, good luck with him.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

Also, if you can, get a bag of Lactated Ringers and an IV line from your vet, and give him some sub-q fluids (under his skin.) That'll help perk him up too.

[dodgegirl]

The first night we had to literally pour it down his throat little by little. But the next day he started drinking by himself. It's sorta like being sick, ya know you need to drink ginger ale but you don't want to. But eventually you get thirsty enough and drink.

[hansonw]

Mine did the same thing Wednesday I put him in water then ac like you. But also called the vet and took him straight from the woods. They had to put him on a drip and he is still at the vet. The reason I took mine is bc I have seen them fo that and not go to the vet and the next day they act fine or better and the fourth day they are dead. The will start pooping blood and there kindneys and vital organs basically fry. A lot of the times if their eyes get real dilated that means they are having brain swelling and it's to late. I hope everything works out man bc I'm in the same shape you are.

[justincorbell]

he will heat stroke easer now

X's 2, you will have to take it easy on him for a while, once its happens the first time they become more suceptable to it happenin again.

Hope he pulls through.


"the sun is shining somewhere in texas" -Jason Boland

[cujo72]

I can offer a little advice you need to take him to the Vet or give him an IV! What happens is after the extreme heat exhaust the muscles are breaking down and the kidneys are filtering all that muscle and they get over worked and shut down so the dog has to have plenty of fluids to flush the kidneys. Like you said forcing water or whatever in him is not giving him enough fluids to keep the kidneys flushed hence the IV. I know this because I had the same thing happen to me a month ago IV for three days and complete rest dog came through it like a champ. I hope this info helps you bud.

[firemedic]

he will heat stroke easer now

X2....I'm going to keep my comments to myself this time,....this makes me so angry I can't be objective about it, Hope your dog comes out of this bud.....good luck.

[Nash]

Hope he makes it I lost my best dog last year to the same thing. I have had some live a couple days then die also. The ones that did make it never could handle the heat very well after that and I lost them later to no other than a heatstroke. Wish the good ones could all live forever but it seems like they are the ones to go Mine did the same thing Wednesday I put him in water then ac like you. But also called the vet and took him straight from the woods. They had to put him on a drip and he is still at the vet. The reason I took mine is bc I have seen them fo that and not go to the vet and the next day they act fine or better and the fourth day they are dead. The will start pooping blood and there kindneys and vital organs basically fry. A lot of the times if their eyes get real dilated that means they are having brain swelling and it's to late. I hope everything works out man bc I'm in the same shape you are.first. Hunt at night or early morning works best for me. Bring them water and don't hunt if it's over 85 degrees.  Just the way I feel about it. Good luck.

[Melonhead]

Hate that, some times you can catch it when you see em wobblin.

Oly has a dog that heat stroked so bad, he was Hangin limp for the 30mins we were carrying him out - I thought he was dead a few times. Sub q fluids on the way out and soaked him down and I was spitting water down his throat the whole way out. Dog lived, only goes out during the winter now.
Crazy to see them pour everything out and their bodies can't take it.
I carry a 20cc syringe in my kit now because of that day - sub q fluids right away.

[dub]

firemedic I have an idea what you want to say. But to me if you live in a place like Texas you better know what to do in the heat. I run in the heat sometimes. I don't think a dog that has a heat stroke will be more likely to have it again because of having it. I think some dogs know to slow down in the heat. You need to make sure you only hunt in short bursts and give lots of water. keep a close eye on your dogs. I had a heat stroke once and nobody was with me. I knew the signs and what to do. You don't feel good quickly. Just today my kids had to go out and play. I tried to keep them in. When I saw girl I knew to get her in and put her in the bath and give fluids. To me kids and dogs both need someone with a close eye. Try to wait for cooler times but sometimes they just want to go and it is your responsibility.

Hunting in the heat requires lots of water, and ice packs. You need to know where to put them to cool the dog or a person fast.

[Td3 dogs n hogs]

he will heat stroke easer now

X2....I'm going to keep my comments to myself this time,....this makes me so angry I can't be objective about it, Hope your dog comes out of this bud.....good luck.

you got something to say then say it!! you aint gonna hurt my feelings one bit!! i already realized and admitted i screwed up!

[Td3 dogs n hogs]

firemedic I have an idea what you want to say. But to me if you live in a place like Texas you better know what to do in the heat. I run in the heat sometimes. I don't think a dog that has a heat stroke will be more likely to have it again because of having it. I think some dogs know to slow down in the heat. You need to make sure you only hunt in short bursts and give lots of water. keep a close eye on your dogs. I had a heat stroke once and nobody was with me. I knew the signs and what to do. You don't feel good quickly. Just today my kids had to go out and play. I tried to keep them in. When I saw girl I knew to get her in and put her in the bath and give fluids. To me kids and dogs both need someone with a close eye. Try to wait for cooler times but sometimes they just want to go and it is your responsibility.

Hunting in the heat requires lots of water, and ice packs. You need to know where to put them to cool the dog or a person fast.

if you hunt in the heat it dont matter how you do it you raise the risk of heat stroke i dont expect my dogs to just give up on a runner cause its hot. and its hard to keep a close eye on them when there running hogs we only planed to hunt about 30 min they just got on a rough hog in 100 degree heat and my dog will not quit no matter what...well unless he has a heat stroke. but i do belive once he has had one he is more prone to have them in the futer. but hes doing good acts like hisself again i been keeping a close watch on him whatch for blood and making sure he gets fresh water evryday. he seems to be getting better but only time will tell. thanks for all the help and comments guys and girls

[firemedic]

I reckon that the reason this heat stroke thing gets to me so much is that it's TOTALLY avoidable, or at least it seems that way to me. I agree that some dogs have enough sense to quite before they get too hot,.....but most of them don't. I commend you td3 for realizing and admitting that,....as you said, that you screwed up by hunting in the heat. Takes a big man to admit that he's wrong and you've done that, says a lot about you.

I live in north Alabama,....it doesn't get much hotter or more humid than here,...I think south Ga and FL maybe have us beat but not by much. I would love to hunt year 'round, but I will not risk losing one of my dogs to heat stroke,....I've got a lot of time and money invested in them and I see it as my duty to take care of them as best I can. I take this responsibility very seriously,....and keeping my dogs from heat stroke is part of that in my opinion.

I doubt that I'm going to change many folks mind about hunting in the heat,....but maybe, just maybe a few of y'all will take a look at it and see that this can be avoided just by not hunting in the heat.....simple, at least to me. Hog hunting is hard on our dogs just by the very nature of it, so why add another, which in my humble opinion, is an avoidable risk to it?

Yes,....as stated earlier, you can carry water and ice and hopefully get your hands on a dog before it gets so hot that the damage has been done. But we all know that a hog very rarely reads the script that we have for the next hunt, and therefore they often do exactly the opposite of what we want 'em to.

Just please consider my thoughts on this....I wish to offend no one on here....and if I have I am honestly sorry.

[dub]

firemedic I have an idea what you want to say. But to me if you live in a place like Texas you better know what to do in the heat. I run in the heat sometimes. I don't think a dog that has a heat stroke will be more likely to have it again because of having it. I think some dogs know to slow down in the heat. You need to make sure you only hunt in short bursts and give lots of water. keep a close eye on your dogs. I had a heat stroke once and nobody was with me. I knew the signs and what to do. You don't feel good quickly. Just today my kids had to go out and play. I tried to keep them in. When I saw girl I knew to get her in and put her in the bath and give fluids. To me kids and dogs both need someone with a close eye. Try to wait for cooler times but sometimes they just want to go and it is your responsibility.

Hunting in the heat requires lots of water, and ice packs. You need to know where to put them to cool the dog or a person fast.

if you hunt in the heat it don't matter how you do it you raise the risk of heat stroke i don't expect my dogs to just give up on a runner cause its hot. and its hard to keep a close eye on them when there running hogs we only planed to hunt about 30 min they just got on a rough hog in 100 degree heat and my dog will not quit no matter what...well unless he has a heat stroke. but i do believe once he has had one he is more prone to have them in the future. but hes doing good acts like hisself again i been keeping a close watch on him whatch for blood and making sure he gets fresh water evryday. he seems to be getting better but only time will tell. thanks for all the help and comments guys and girls

That is why your dog had a heat stroke and mine have not. I have dogs I will not run in the heat and a couple I will. If a dog won't pull up before a heat stroke then don't hunt them in the heat. I am just telling you what I have learned from training in some of the hottest places on earth. When it gets hot you better know what you are doing or your men will die or in this case your dogs. You said you did not know what to do when your dog had a heat stroke but you were hunting in the heat. I am not slamming you but I will not be nice either. Learn what to do to take care of your dogs because they count on you. It seems you had some clue as to what to do because you got the dog in water and then a/c. It seems you did what you could for your dog and what you did was right. So for that I say good job. I am also not going to say not to hunt in the heat. But I will say that you need to know your dogs and don't hunt the dogs that will stay in the hog until they are dead. Because in the heat that is what will happen.

I am really glad your dog is doing better. I knew the dog would because the dangerous time was over. If I made you mad I am neither sorry nor not sorry. I do hope you learned something and realize I was not trying to hurt your feelings or just slamming you. You did good caring for your dog.

If you have a cooler just have a towel and put it in the ice water and then put that over your dog. Don't just pour the water on the dog because it will be wasted. When the towel gets warm ring it out and let the water fall on the dog and get it wet in the cooler again. Also get some of the water for the dog to drink but not too much. The dog may throw up and suffer dehydration so only give small amounts at a time. I have a 12 ML syringe with no needle. I put the shot in the mouth at least waiting one minute between shots to prevent dehydration but not upsetting the stomach. If the dog does not drink do not get worried they may have an upset stomach. Get the dog's temperature down to normal as quickly as possible. If you have a large cooler you can put the dog in the ice. All of this works for people too. A dog or person may not feel good for a few hours or days. But as long as the temperature is normal just keep them hydrated. Also know that the feet can be cooled faster than the rest of the body in a dog and the blood flowing through will cool other areas. Also cooling the neck gets cooler blood to the brain. Basically anywhere major arteries or a large capillary area near the skin is a good place to put ice packs. But do not over cool the dog and send the dog into hypothermia. So if you put the dog on ice only do so for a few minutes unless you have a thermometer to check the body temp. The cool towels are safer but take longer. Expect a person or dog to not be feeling well after all they were being cooked on the inside and it may take time to get back to normal. Obviously there could be permanent damage that is why cooling them as quickly as possible is better. With a conscious person I would stick their head in the cooler and then leave either hands or feet in the cooler. Once they have a normal temp a blanket to prevent hypothermia. Heat can kill in many ways.

Now this is just a basic overview of some basic things off the top of my head. Consult a doctor or vet ahead of time to learn better things to do. You also should run through what to do both with a conscious and and unconscious person and dog. It could save a life.

[Td3 dogs n hogs]

firemedic I have an idea what you want to say. But to me if you live in a place like Texas you better know what to do in the heat. I run in the heat sometimes. I don't think a dog that has a heat stroke will be more likely to have it again because of having it. I think some dogs know to slow down in the heat. You need to make sure you only hunt in short bursts and give lots of water. keep a close eye on your dogs. I had a heat stroke once and nobody was with me. I knew the signs and what to do. You don't feel good quickly. Just today my kids had to go out and play. I tried to keep them in. When I saw girl I knew to get her in and put her in the bath and give fluids. To me kids and dogs both need someone with a close eye. Try to wait for cooler times but sometimes they just want to go and it is your responsibility.

Hunting in the heat requires lots of water, and ice packs. You need to know where to put them to cool the dog or a person fast.

if you hunt in the heat it don't matter how you do it you raise the risk of heat stroke i don't expect my dogs to just give up on a runner cause its hot. and its hard to keep a close eye on them when there running hogs we only planed to hunt about 30 min they just got on a rough hog in 100 degree heat and my dog will not quit no matter what...well unless he has a heat stroke. but i do believe once he has had one he is more prone to have them in the future. but hes doing good acts like hisself again i been keeping a close watch on him whatch for blood and making sure he gets fresh water evryday. he seems to be getting better but only time will tell. thanks for all the help and comments guys and girls

That is why your dog had a heat stroke and mine have not. I have dogs I will not run in the heat and a couple I will. If a dog won't pull up before a heat stroke then don't hunt them in the heat. I am just telling you what I have learned from training in some of the hottest places on earth. When it gets hot you better know what you are doing or your men will die or in this case your dogs. You said you did not know what to do when your dog had a heat stroke but you were hunting in the heat. I am not slamming you but I will not be nice either. Learn what to do to take care of your dogs because they count on you. It seems you had some clue as to what to do because you got the dog in water and then a/c. It seems you did what you could for your dog and what you did was right. So for that I say good job. I am also not going to say not to hunt in the heat. But I will say that you need to know your dogs and don't hunt the dogs that will stay in the hog until they are dead. Because in the heat that is what will happen.

I am really glad your dog is doing better. I knew the dog would because the dangerous time was over. If I made you mad I am neither sorry nor not sorry. I do hope you learned something and realize I was not trying to hurt your feelings or just slamming you. You did good caring for your dog.

If you have a cooler just have a towel and put it in the ice water and then put that over your dog. Don't just pour the water on the dog because it will be wasted. When the towel gets warm ring it out and let the water fall on the dog and get it wet in the cooler again. Also get some of the water for the dog to drink but not too much. The dog may throw up and suffer dehydration so only give small amounts at a time. I have a 12 ML syringe with no needle. I put the shot in the mouth at least waiting one minute between shots to prevent dehydration but not upsetting the stomach. If the dog does not drink do not get worried they may have an upset stomach. Get the dog's temperature down to normal as quickly as possible. If you have a large cooler you can put the dog in the ice. All of this works for people too. A dog or person may not feel good for a few hours or days. But as long as the temperature is normal just keep them hydrated. Also know that the feet can be cooled faster than the rest of the body in a dog and the blood flowing through will cool other areas. Also cooling the neck gets cooler blood to the brain. Basically anywhere major arteries or a large capillary area near the skin is a good place to put ice packs. But do not over cool the dog and send the dog into hypothermia. So if you put the dog on ice only do so for a few minutes unless you have a thermometer to check the body temp. The cool towels are safer but take longer. Expect a person or dog to not be feeling well after all they were being cooked on the inside and it may take time to get back to normal. Obviously there could be permanent damage that is why cooling them as quickly as possible is better. With a conscious person I would stick their head in the cooler and then leave either hands or feet in the cooler. Once they have a normal temp a blanket to prevent hypothermia. Heat can kill in many ways.

Now this is just a basic overview of some basic things off the top of my head. Consult a doctor or vet ahead of time to learn better things to do. You also should run through what to do both with a conscious and and unconscious person and dog. It could save a life.

look man i didint plan on my dog having a heat stroke i didint even know he wasw having one till i got him home and looked online i have never seen or had a dog have one untill this one i knew the dog was hot so i cooled him off...anough said thanks for your advice

[Reuben]

in the hot summer I carry a container with ice water...I get the container and fill it to 50% with water and then freeze it...then when I go hunting I fill it with water and it stays cold for 4-5 hours...I give water to the dogs to cool them down...

A dog that over heats gets cold water and I rub cool water under their chest...a dog cools himself down by 2 ways when he is getting hot...one way is he lays down on water to cool his under side...the other way is by him panting...if the dog gets too thirsty then he will have a dry mouth...it just makes sense to me that this will somehow hinder the cooling process for the dog...so it is best to continue giving the dog water and keep them hydrated...do this every chance you have to do so...

once a dog is over heated cool them down in a shady spot and give them water...load them on the 4 wheeler and have the wind cool them down...it helps if the dog is wet because the water evaporation will help cool the dog down...

if the dog overheated to the extreme then the dog will have his eyes dilated and glazed over...his body will start to get cold...the dog is going in to shock and can possibly die...I will lay the dog down on his side and will  compress and de-compress his heart to get his blood to pumping and if the dog is getting cold I will cover him up and try to raise his body temperature closer to normal...the dog needs close companionship to give him a reason to fight for his life...