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« on: May 09, 2009, 07:49:25 pm »

Dad got a 7 month old BMC gyp the other night and today we took her hunting. we ride horses and follow the dogs. she followed but acted like she was scared. the dogs started baying and she never came. we caught a 100# sow this morning and stuck her in a trailer with the hog and she didn't care. she kept wanting to look at us outside the trailer. then the hog rooted her a little and she tried to get out of the way. she didn't do anything until the hog hit her up against the trailer and she yelped then barked a little bit but didn't really do anything else. the guy that we got her from said she had only seen a hog once. now she has! lol also she runs a little bit when you try and catch her. when you put a leash on her she cowers down like she is scared. do anyone no how to fix some of these problems. i figured time will help since she is still young.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009, 08:01:44 pm »

Yeah leave her alone for a couple months.........the dog is still young.........I have seen 3 yr old dogs go from nothing to strike dogs.......we as dog hunters often are guilty of starting pups too early......they are still pups...........Just let it alone for a while....it will come around........before it gets ruined........just my opinion, but i have been in the sport for a long time.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 08:06:58 pm »

ok thanks for the info. what about putting her with older dogs in a pen that no what they are doing. or a littler hog?
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2009, 09:22:16 pm »

Just like Pecos said... she's still a puppy. Put her up and try her again later.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2009, 09:35:56 pm »

JMO but I would try start her on a small pig one she can man handle let her confidence get good and strong and graduate her up.  On the subject of be scared when you are trying to catch her spend as much time you can playing with her petting her and if you have kids and dont mined a dog in the house let stay inside give it alot of attention and she should come around.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2009, 10:15:43 pm »

I say put her up or get rid of her, I've probably ruined a couple of younger dogs because of impatience and me working with them to much and not letting them be puppies. but if your impatient and need a spot for an actual working dog, find the dog a home and look for a good started dog.

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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2009, 12:33:39 am »

Just to follow up on the advice of several of the other Hog Hunters. I would try doing basic obedience with the dog and continue to get her around other sites people etc. Find a large field or pasture to run her in after you have gotten some obedience down. Introduce the dog to hogs, let her get around one when it is in the pen and she can bay at it from the outside. If she is not interested get another dog and let it bay and then let her bay with it. If this still does not work, then tie her up while another dog works the hog. This may get her excited to want to go to the hog. When you get some results, then get a small hog and turn her loose on it. If she shows no interest get another dog to bay it and then turn her loose. Always remember not to go to long, just a few minutes at a time. There is always another day. Go slow and easy and always reward her with praise. I hope this helps. Keep us posted on your dogs progress. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2009, 03:33:53 am »

Shes still young just give her time and get use to the other dogs you hunt with and it wont be long and she will be right there with them...and far as barking at a hog in the pen i have a year old bmc that will find and bay her own hog in the woods but will jump out of a bay pen i guess she feels traped or something
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2009, 03:46:12 pm »

ok thanks guys. i will have to try a smaller hog and just be patient and work with her.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2009, 08:37:04 pm »

The first time I introduce my pups to hogs, I'll put put them in the pen with a small shoat.  Very seldom do they go right to work, but occasionally one will and that makes it easier.  For most, I'll catch the shoat myself flip it over and make it squeal.  99% of the time, that will set them off.  Then set back, watch them work and smile.

If a squealing hog won't get them started, do like others have suggested...wait, and try again later.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2009, 08:40:36 pm »

if you had the time and money to do it i would put her up and jus let her be a puppy for a while. i start mine at six months and then i just let them be a puppy till a year
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2009, 09:12:10 pm »

well i think we are going to put her on a smaller hog and work her way up. my mom said that today while i was at school a neighbor's pet pot bellied pig came to the house and she was barking and so was my 3 month old dog so it might just take time. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 07:27:09 am »

Be patient especially if you know she's got good blood in her.  I had a 8 month old I couldn't get him to bark, look at, or catch a hog until he was a year old.  He's now almost 3 and if I would have listened to all my buddies saying to get rid of him I would be out of a hell of a dog.  Good luck.
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2009, 10:22:09 am »

Sounds like those Lacy dogs I've got. 5yrs and I'm still being patient. Never beat them with a hog or really forced them.  Dogs like that just don't have the hunt in them.  If I don't go broke feeding them maybe in another 5yrs they'll come on but just be patient huh?
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2009, 12:52:28 pm »

wow thats to long i would think. they should be baying by now. have you tried them with a smaller hog or dogs that know what they are doing?
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2009, 11:50:30 pm »

wow thats to long i would think. they should be baying by now. have you tried them with a smaller hog or dogs that know what they are doing?


I have told this on here before...but I had a 3 yr old (or was coming 4..don't remember the exact age) Catahoula given to me buy a guy who said he wouldn't hunt very well, but I was needing a dog again and I took him. He had several littermates already striking hogs, etc. I took him to the bay pen at Amos Mann's house here in Wills Point, and he wouldn't bark at a hog, even tried to get out of the bay pen. I was not happy to say the least. But I decided to keep him and just take him to the woods. On the third or 4th hunt he struck his own hog, and turned out to be the BEST strike dog I have ever owned. I was offered a lot of money for him when i took him to Georgia with me after he showed out those other guy's dogs. And a guy I used to work for told me to name my price on him. i never sold him and he died on my place an old man. Patience is a good thing. That is why I made the statement earlier on this thread about putting the pup up and waiting. If you have that gut feeling about a dog stick with that feeling.  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2009, 09:34:29 pm »

well thanks that makes me feel better. i think she will turn on pretty soon. thanks for all the info. dad said he took her for a walk and the pot bellied pig followed and she barked but didn't act to interested. does a pig like that smell different or something that would make them not bay like a regular wild hog?
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2009, 11:30:30 pm »

Sounds like she has it in her she just needs time and patience maybe work her once week with an experience dog she barks at the pot belly but she doesn't quite know thats whats she's suppose to do one day it will click like a light switch and she will jam up on the pigs but like alot have  said time and patience.
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