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Reuben
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« on: August 13, 2012, 09:10:09 pm » |
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 some folks say a dog is not finished if he/she is still learning...so when is a dog finished??? I can't say I use the word finished to describe a hog dog ...I just say the dog is a good hog dog... and a good hog dog to me is a dog that can find a hog and bay it and stick with the track and put a hog at the other end of the track...and the dog does not trash...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 09:15:43 pm » |
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No such thing as a finished hog dog for that matter no such thing as a finished any working dog. Same as people if you know everything there is to know about something you might as well quit.
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2012, 09:24:59 pm » |
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A finished dog would be one that finds the hog , ties it up, drags it to the truck and loads it!  Same as stated above i dont use the word finished there will allways be more that a dog can learn rather it be in my eyes or yours. |
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2012, 09:51:04 pm » |
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A finished hog dog to me are chasing hogs with big guy in the sky.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 10:04:37 pm » |
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Finished may be a sales descriptive term meaning the dog being inquired about / offered has reached the mastery level of skill invalid in it's trade and having proven itself to be of this level of skill for a long enough time as to provide some measure of Garuntee that it will not be useless once removed from it's pack.
As for my personal opinion, I believe the measure of finished dog is read by looking at his handler/breeder as much as the dog.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 10:44:09 pm » |
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I think some folks take the term finished a little too serious. To me its just a term used to describe an older dog thats trash broke, and can consistently find and bay hogs in any terrain or conditions.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2012, 11:15:23 pm » |
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a dog is finished when he is retired or dead imo theres just started dogs and hog dogs. some better than others. thats my 2cents
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2012, 11:28:16 pm » |
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To me two things define a finished dog.
When he is taken a dirt nap kickin up daiseys and chasin hogs in the sky.
Are when he is retired and done hog hunting .
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 12:50:25 am » |
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all dogs got their quirks pet peaves and i personally have never seen a dog that was FINISHED,know amd hunted with a 4000.00 old dog that IS hell on wheelsfindin hogs,wouldnt lookat a hog he didnt FIND.huntd with an old dog he WILL NOT hunt 4 no one else but the guy that raised him, owned a o;d red mutt best dam hood ground dog ive seen wont pass a coon,wont find him mind ya ,and loves 2 whoop a young dogs arse.show me a finished dog and i got money says hes DEAD
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tnhillbilly
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 01:45:44 am » |
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Well what are the politicaly correct terms for the different stages of progression?
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Reuben
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2012, 05:45:33 am » |
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Finished may be a sales descriptive term meaning the dog being inquired about / offered has reached the mastery level of skill invalid in it's trade and having proven itself to be of this level of skill for a long enough time as to provide some measure of Garuntee that it will not be useless once removed from it's pack.
As for my personal opinion, I believe the measure of finished dog is read by looking at his handler/breeder as much as the dog.
I can't say I use the word finished to describe a hog dog ...I just say the dog is a good hog dog... and a good hog dog to me is a dog that can find a hog and bay it and stick with the track and put a hog at the other end of the track...and the dog does not trash... I think some folks take the term finished a little too serious. To me its just a term used to describe an older dog thats trash broke, and can consistently find and bay hogs in any terrain or conditions.
all of the above is a finished hog dog to me...but a dog must not be a cull and he should produce pork and should be totally broke off trash...but to have this type of dog he needs to be hunted right at least once a week if not more... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2012, 09:45:23 am » |
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A finished hog dog to me are chasing hogs with big guy in the sky.
At the height of his game Figures out a track fast Stays with a hog until you go get them Can produce hog by self consistently Finds the hog that isn't there Conditions of weather country don't affect Applies the right amount of pressure to hold a bay Knows what his handler is thinking Reached maximum potential, not to say they don't continue to still learn more I have had one gyp I would consider finished... She was 8 could figure out a track conditions didn't affect if hog was there it was bayed Stayed at bay by herself until you got to her, lost her once 15 hrs later got a call she was bayed it was 6mi from where lost her & 15 hrs she had been on the ground 18 hrs I'm not saying she wasn't still learning but, she did her job to 100% of her ability every time she was dropped. I don't use the term finished, but that is the standard I think of when I hear or read the term finished. |
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2012, 10:15:31 am » |
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A dog is finished the day you put it on the dog trade  |
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2012, 12:39:53 pm » |
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A dog is finished the day you put it on the dog trade Lmao |
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2012, 02:52:04 pm » |
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a dog never gets finished they just get better, they learn something new all the time like people
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Reuben
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2012, 05:17:47 pm » |
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A finished hog dog to me are chasing hogs with big guy in the sky.
At the height of his game Figures out a track fast Stays with a hog until you go get them Can produce hog by self consistently Finds the hog that isn't there Conditions of weather country don't affect Applies the right amount of pressure to hold a bay Knows what his handler is thinking Reached maximum potential, not to say they don't continue to still learn more I have had one gyp I would consider finished... She was 8 could figure out a track conditions didn't affect if hog was there it was bayed Stayed at bay by herself until you got to her, lost her once 15 hrs later got a call she was bayed it was 6mi from where lost her & 15 hrs she had been on the ground 18 hrs I'm not saying she wasn't still learning but, she did her job to 100% of her ability every time she was dropped. I don't use the term finished, but that is the standard I think of when I hear or read the term finished. reatj81...a dog of this type is usually not for sale... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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