American hoggers

[DSmith]

And it's CHRISTMAS turkey.

[charles]

 i did say chirstmas, i just abreviated it to x-mas. so your saying you wouldnt trash talk them on camera. what about in person?

[circleP]

Most of the stuff on the show just makes the bullseye on hog doggers backs just a little bigger. We don't need all that on tv. It does make good entertainment but just don't think it needs to be on tv.

[cantexduck]

    Randy posts on here too.

[DSmith]

Charles, I should have added that I don't make it a habit of talking about other peoples dogs as mine are not perfect by any means and I can't very well throw stones without first hitting my dogs first.  I have nothing negative to say about the Creek or Campbell dogs.  They use a different style of dog than me but that doesn't make mine better, or theirs worse.  It just means we have different taste. I haven't talked bad about the Campbells or the Creek crew other than what I have said about their behavior on a 30 minute show that we agree was scripted in some form or fashion.
If I were standing face to face to them, I would say the same thing.  Not to start a fight but to tell them the truth.  Trust me when I say I have no issues speaking my mind to someone face to face.  A co-worker recently made a statement about me to a superior when I wasn't around and this is a quote from that superior.  "One thing about D is he'll never stab you in the back, you will see it coming and it will be right square in your chest."
Last month I got written up at work for cussing a Captain out.  In the complaint they qouted all 7 of my lines, including the cuss words that I called him.  I read the complaint and replied in writing.  "Yes, those quotes are pretty accurate and I shouldn't have said them out load."  period
Didnt say I was sorry and gave no apology.  He is an ass and I told him so.
As I have made clear, a grown man acting like those 3 men did just because they were told to, to me is not a good excuse.  I don't think you and I will ever agree on this and that's ok and I have no reason to suspect or accuse you of being a 'smartbutt' as you said earlier, you are just voicing your opinion too.  
But I have to admit, there was one show that I had to laugh at and thought the whole thing was a joke and that was the one with the great danes and the fancy clothes.  Now I did make fun of those dogs as they rarely got on a hog that wasn't penned up first.  I do believe my dogs could find more hogs than those on any given day?  

[DSmith]

typo...sorry   

shouldn't have said them out loud     not load   

[hogdog hunter86]

I wouldn't hunt them trail barking a$$ dogs if they gave them to me
It's just all for show they say all hounds are trail barkers not the ones
I have
Good hunting bud

[Black Smith]

I just wish i had the places to hunt they do. hog hunting would be alot easeier than these piney woods in louisiana. i am on a lease 23 miles north of brady but cant turn dogs loose because of of the people we border!!!! everyone has hog problems no one wants to do anything about it!!!!

[cwhite_25]

Charles,
I agree with a lot you are saying about the show. Of course it’s made up BS to get ratings. I wish it was not staged and more about hunting but the fact of the matter is ratings are what make the network money. If it was plain jane hunting all us doggers would watch but that is about as far as it would go.  I have known and hunted with the Campbell’s all my life and they are not like that at all. Robert loves his sister to death and they are best friends off camera. Just like you know your buddies I know the real Campbell’s. That being said I think if you are going to be on a show and act like a fool you need to be prepared to take the heat. I can say that because I was actually on this show season 1. You notice I hardly talk. The film crew wanted me to do some things that I said no to because in the back of my mind the whole time filming I didn’t want to look like a fool. You have been on here before your buddies were on doing a lot of bashing and you have that right. They need to take the heat good or bad because that’s part of being in the spotlight.  I’m sure they are great guys and everything you say about them is true. Just my thoughts….

[cdc505]

The good thing about all this trash talk going on here is that every single hunter that is on the show is reading what y'all write on here. I'm sure they are laughing and saying well we figured they were gonna give us hell about this and that!!! Me, David Shepperd, and Randy Tate went hunting yesterday afternoon caught 4 good pigs in about 2 hours and probably wouldn't mind a little friendly competition from some of you boys now and then so we could evaluate these crap hounds we run. They've found enough over the last few months to keep the catch dogs mowed down so maybe we can just bring a few of y'all along with your catch dogs!!!! Now you see how ridiculous that sounds come guys don't be hating too much shows on A&E not sportsman channel. Y'all have a good one

[Easttex91]

The good thing about all this trash talk going on here is that every single hunter that is on the show is reading what y'all write on here.

If your reading this Crystal I'm a strapping young buck who looks like a cross between Tony Romo and George Clooney with a smooth southern drawl, and I'd be delighted to take you to the fanciest restaurant you please. I'll even carry your tray for you.

[cdc505]

Haha that's funny right there!

[Reuben]

The good thing about all this trash talk going on here is that every single hunter that is on the show is reading what y'all write on here.

If your reading this Crystal I'm a strapping young buck who looks like a cross between Tony Romo and George Clooney with a smooth southern drawl, and I'd be delighted to take you to the fanciest restaurant you please. I'll even carry your tray for you.

yep...she is hot... 

[Reuben]

one thing I do know...critics are a dime a dozen...if we listen to them they can become our ball and chain...or...we can use that criticism to push us higher... 

[ole shep]

The good thing about all this trash talk going on here is that every single hunter that is on the show is reading what y'all write on here.

If your reading this Crystal I'm a strapping young buck who looks like a cross between Tony Romo and George Clooney with a smooth southern drawl, and I'd be delighted to take you to the fanciest restaurant you please. I'll even carry your tray for you.

NOW THAT IS A GOOD ONE !!! You should have said you had some Quiet running med range dogs that would put just enough enamel on one to stop him and catch like vice grip when you told him to. And would run by a 200lb hog to get to a 400lb.

[SCHitemHard]

The good thing about all this trash talk going on here is that every single hunter that is on the show is reading what y'all write on here.

If your reading this Crystal I'm a strapping young buck who looks like a cross between Tony Romo and George Clooney with a smooth southern drawl, and I'd be delighted to take you to the fanciest restaurant you please. I'll even carry your tray for you.

NOW THAT IS A GOOD ONE !!! You should have said you had some Quiet running med range dogs that would put just enough enamel on one to stop him and catch like vice grip when you told him to. And would run by a 200lb hog to get to a 400lb.

shoot ill even saddle her horse up for her. cant lose anymore fingers now...

[Easttex91]

Hell I don't wanna lie to that pretty thang shep my dogs have been known to run right past a penned hog to go eat a pile of hog number 2.

See I was serious about the Romo Clooney thing lol

[ole shep]

Right on

[aladatrot]

I know everyone has an opinion, and here is mine.

A couple of years ago, myself and Uglydog were approached about signing with a production company from California. They were interested in us because we were female hog hunters who had our own packs of dogs. One phrase really stuck with me from my telephone conversations with the company, and that was that they were really looking for "Characters" to sell to the audience. For some reason, that struck a note with me. This fella was less interested to hear about my dogs or my experience, and more interested in my ability to be a character. I politely declined his offers when I got a weird feeling that all he was fishing for was ratings and didn't care what he had to do to get them. Production companies are not our friends. They might lure you in with the idea of showcasing your sport, but I assure you that their motives are not to put you or your sport in a good light. Their motives are to show blood, guts, and drama. They want the real train wrecks because that is what the public likes to watch on TV.

As for the American Hoggers program, I believe it does damage to us in a couple of ways, and through no direct fault of the Campbells. First of all, if I were a landowner watching the show, I would see the APPEARANCE of disrespect on the part of the hunters. Be it the hot rodding of buggies on the property, the plastic bottles flying out onto the ground behind speeding buggies, or the idea that my invited guest hunters were exchanging insults and "threats" of gunplay while on my place, I could easily deduce that hog doggers are likely more trouble than they are worth. While there was footage of littering and bad driving, there was no footage of the hunters stopping to retrieve and properly dispose of the trash they lost. Furthermore, the ending to the Campbell Vs Creek episode ended with Mr Campbell not even shaking the landowner's hand. That to me just screams disrespectful. Now I am hoping that all of this was the work of the production company, and not how either party conducts themselves in real life. Not knowing either party, all I have to go on is what was broadcast on TV. If I were a landowner with a hog problem and this is all I had to go on, I would be dead and buried before I let a hog dogger on my place.

The second way I believe programs such as this are detrimental to the collective "US" is by showing the general public that Hog Hunters are a bunch of classless hillbillies. Again, I am not saying that the Campbells are classless hillbillies - but I am saying that is how they are portrayed on TV. It is much easier for anti hunters, anti hog doggers, and animal rights activists to go to the public and to our elected officials with a copy of (insert hog dogging reality show title here) and point to it and say "Look what these ignorant redneck hillbillies are doing to these dogs and pigs!" Strictly from a standpoint of putting our best image forward, we try to look and ACT professional whenever we are hunting. Furthermore, we try to remember that ANYTIME we are in public with hog dogs, we are representing not only ourselves, but Hog Doggers in general. I'm not saying that we need to wear suits and ties in the woods, but I am saying that acting in an appropriate manner in the presence of John Q. Public. We do not want people believing that all hog doggers are ignorant lowlives. Unfortunately, American Hoggers has exploited the Campbells, and made them look like hillbillies who do not know how to conduct themselves. This looks bad on all of us.

I also need to mention that during shooting, it may seem to the Campbells that all looks great. Much can be done in editing to skew how things look in the finished product. It is my hope and assumption that the Campbells and the Creeks did not intend to act in a manner which would be hurtful to their sport, and that any of the negative attributes of the show have been put there by the production company. I feel like it is highly likely that the Campbells are merely pawns in a production company's game. They were likely lured in by the prospect of money and acclaim, but were dealt a dirty hand once the contracts were signed. I find it unfortunate for all of us, but all we can do it work to better our own image.

As far as trash talking anyone's dogs, I can say that from the footage I saw I would not feed any of the dogs showcased. Not that they are bad dogs or potlickers, they just aren't my style, and it is possibly a regional difference that dictates the type or style of dogs you hunt. I guess my own expectations in a dog are different than theirs, and I see that as a good thing. If it were not for the many different styles and types of hunting dogs, hog dogging would get pretty boring.

Cheers
M

[aladatrot]

Accidental double post.
Cheers
M