American hoggers

[M Bennet]

it was fuuunnnyyy,,,,,

[johnf]

i swear that walker the creek boys had.sounded identical to jerrys dog ranger.i can usualy call dogs barks.that was weird.lol

[ole shep]

Hell they probably all went out drink whiskey together after the show. The part that crack me up is when they put the sunglasses and the cowboy hat on the boar hog and started imitating Jerry. About fell out of my chair.

  Jeff,
   The guy who did that is on the site. Doesnt post much though. Good guy.

He reads a lot. Been waiting to get beat up a bit! When they called I thought man I will show them how its done! Problem is when you get to one there is no sound or camera guys there. So you see what they see!

How you doing Mike? Still hunting a bunch? I been having bad problems with catch dogs.

[TexasHogDogs]

Only real part about it was Krystal getting her thumb nearly took off.

I been hunting a long time and I dont think all my time combined have I seen that many hogs running out in the open with clear vision of them and the dogs hitting them.

Its just a show I have to remind myself of that fun to watch I think.  Tell ya one thing it would have been some hell somebody trying to take a hog my dogs struck and caught . 

I like watching it hell its way better than some of this crap on tv and people wonder why the kids these days are like they are .

[Lance]

I watch the show and enjoy parts of it. If it has anything to do with catching hogs then I will watch it. But I still get mad and holler and cuss and talk chit to the T.V. because most of the show is so ridiculous. I realize that it is made for entertainment but I still can't help but believe that they make us look even worse with every episode. The owner of one of the bigger ranches that I hunt actually told me that if me and they guys that hunt with me acted like the people on American Hoggers then we would never hunt his place again. He's tagged along a couple of times so he knows that we don't act like that. The good side of the conversation was that he told me that no one else but me and the people that I bring with me would ever hunt his place. The bad side is if he had'nt got to know me before this show came out then I would of never had the chance to hunt there because he thinks that all of the other hog hunters are like the ones he has seen on American Hoggers. He said that he would let the hogs root the slab out from under his house and eat every calf on his place before he would let the Cambell's on his land. I'm sure that the Cambell's are far better people and hunters than they are portrayed on the show but I still believe that the show makes them and all of us look bad. I wish that Leah was the only person on the show that was allowed to have a speaking roll !

[hillbilly]

I watch the show and say how stupid it is. The whole time my wife says if you gonna say all that stuff why do you watch it? I am like most others I guess if its about hog hunting then I will watch it.
As far as the dog in LA. I dont know who they got him from. Looks like I seen that dog in the last episode also. Maybe it was already theres and they was just saying they got him from someone over here in LA. Who knows like everyone knows its all for show.

[Easttex91]

I love the voice of that walker they have. And Krystal could hang around my place other than that it's a ridiculous show.

[DoGgONit]

im pretty sure that bigun dog came from a buddy of mine here in central texas!

[DSmith]

Acting or not, I was embarrased for the Creek boys.  It's one thing to brag on your dogs and get a friendly compitition going, but all that non-sense that they did and said was over the top.  Even my 11 year old daughter who watches the show with me thought they were baffoons.  When an 11 year old sees the wrong in taking another groups hog, there's a problem with the adults, and don't blame it on the show and how they edited it.  As I see it, at the end of the day, a man has to look himself in the mirror, and if I were any  one of them, I wouldn't like what I saw looking back at me in the mirror.

They maybe the nicest guys in the world normally, but they weren't on that show and unfortunately that's all we'll ever get to see of them.  I guarantee you, the ranch I hunt would never allow the creek boys on it a second time if that's how they normally act, I don't care how many hogs they can catch.
Normally that show is good entertainment and worth watching, if nothing else for the good job that the two ladies always do, but that episode took it to a whole new low for me. 

And we're praying for Krystal and her thumb.  Hate to see anyone go through that over a hog and a TV show. 

[Plainhorseman]

X2 Mr. Smith

[charles]

Dsmith, i talked to rady afterwards when they were done and iv hunted with him a bit and no matter what, he dispises talkn smack about other folks dogs and said the producers wanted them to do it. Iv hunted with randy and ronnie and admire the heck out of both of them and know they did what they did for ratings, not bc thats who they are

[DSmith]

Charles, I can see the TV folks wanting them to do it for ratings, but for me, and maybe I'm the one that's odd here, but a man has to live with himself, period. 
Just like your daddy probably told you, as mine did me, "Well I don't care what little johnny said to do, if he said jump off a bridge, would you do that too?" 
We are all responsible for our actions and for how those actions affect others.  If the editors told 'em, "hey, we need the ratings, hunt naked!"  Would the creek boys do it? 
A man has to draw his own line in the sand.  Just as Jake Spoon fell in with the wrong crowd.  His actions got him strung up by a rope by his friends.  Ole' Gus wasn't happy about hanging his friend, but a line was crossed and Jake had a choice.  He chose wrong.

Sad thing is, my daughter had to watch grown men act no better than her 6th grade classmates fighting over the swingset on the playground.  Correction, she didn't HAVE to watch, but I was holding out hope that towards the end, they'd all bury the hatchet, and apologize in some way for their actions. 

[magnuml]

 DSmith, I totally get your point and was thinking the same thing..

[magnuml]

Let me be clear, I am still equally bothered by the Campbells putting the creek boys dog in their box as i was the Creek boys jumping their bay.. Not taking sides, wrong was ( Scripted) done with both sides.

[Dirtydog]

The dog came from Tx... They got the dog from  Ronnie Creek before the competition...

[DSmith]

I have read over and over again on this thread, or other threads about the reality hog hunting shows that have been aired, and people keep saying, "they are acting."
I disagree.  Yes, they may be acting differently than they normally do in their day to day lives, but they aren't in a movie playing a part written by some writer or producer.
Brad Pit can wear a dress and play a transgender in a movie and it's cool, we all know it's a movie and he is ACTING.   
The hunters in these shows aren't actors and they aren't playing parts written by a writers.  These are real people, using their real names, and apparently many of you know them and can attest to their character? 
I'm just saying, if they asked me to be on the show and hunt my dogs, as they did the Creek boys on this episode, I wouldn't trash talk the Campbells or their dogs on camera, no matter what the editors asked me to do.  It's about principal and the value of a mans character.  I was taught you can't put a dollar amount on your character and your word is as good as a written contract.  My dad didn't leave me much when he died many years ago of cancer, but he did leave me his last name and he asked me not to bring dishonor to it.  He might add to that today if he were still here, "and not even for a 30 minute show and it's ratings!"
So here we are today, judging the Creek boys over what we saw of them in a 30 minute show.  For me, what I saw, were men that apparently allowed other men to tarnish their own character just for ratings.  And I have to ask, "was it worth it?"  Mr. Creek bragged of riding bulls for 27 years ( I think he said 27?), but this time, he was the one that got ridden. 

[charles]

Charles, I can see the TV folks wanting them to do it for ratings, but for me, and maybe I'm the one that's odd here, but a man has to live with himself, period. 
Just like your daddy probably told you, as mine did me, "Well I don't care what little johnny said to do, if he said jump off a bridge, would you do that too?" 
We are all responsible for our actions and for how those actions affect others.  If the editors told 'em, "hey, we need the ratings, hunt naked!"  Would the creek boys do it? 
A man has to draw his own line in the sand.  Just as Jake Spoon fell in with the wrong crowd.  His actions got him strung up by a rope by his friends.  Ole' Gus wasn't happy about hanging his friend, but a line was crossed and Jake had a choice.  He chose wrong.

Sad thing is, my daughter had to watch grown men act no better than her 6th grade classmates fighting over the swingset on the playground.  Correction, she didn't HAVE to watch, but I was holding out hope that towards the end, they'd all bury the hatchet, and apologize in some way for their actions. 

Not being a smartbutt, but on your line of thinking. Do you believe everything in them hollywood movies are real, or atleast the actors should be held accountable?
Its not in randy to be a run of the mouth guy about things. We are all entitled to our own opinions.

[DSmith]

A movie is a movie.  Reality TV is a camera following real people around.  I understand they want ratings and edit as needed to get those ratings, but that doesn't mean a man has to sell his soul in the process.  Not only did they trash talk the dogs, they trash talked other people, including the ladies, and mocked a senior citizen.  Again, maybe my values and morals are out of date, but by golly, I still believe in right and wrong and respecting other people, especially my elders. 

If I were asked  to come on the show and as part of the agreement, I'd  have to smack talk other people, trash their dogs, and act the baffoon.  My answer woulld be, "No thanks, keep your money and I'll keep my dignity."

If I wanted to play a part in a movie, then I'd act as silly as the part required.  But to play myself on TV, I'd want to come across as myself and not what the producers want me to be just for ratings.
I also wonder what the Campbells were thinking?  Did the show let them know in advance , "Hey, we are bringing in another crew and we're going to let them trash you on your own show, is that ok?"   

I'm not saying the Creek crew are bad people.  I'll take your word for it that they are decent people and leave it at that.  My point is, why embarass yourself on national television just because a producer asked you to in order to pad his own pockets?  If the audience is only going to see me for 30 minutes, I would hope they would see the good side of me and not something that I am not.  Does that not make sense? 
Surely Mr. Creek has family?  I would assume he wouldn't want his kids or grandkids watching that show and coming away with "Gee dad/grandpa, you stole that mans hog and sure made a fool of yourself in the process!"  If my daughter thought that, I would assume she's not alone? 
 
I guess I'm just expecting too much from a grown man these days?  But my dignity and my character are not for sale and no one can take them from me, but me.

And you are 100% correct, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect yours.  We are just two people discussing a topic and I will lose no sleep over any of this tonight.  The show is just a show and I realize it is not 100% accurate and is edited for ratings.   

[charles]

A movie is a movie.  Reality TV is a camera following real people around.  I understand they want ratings and edit as needed to get those ratings, but that doesn't mean a man has to sell his soul in the process.  Not only did they trash talk the dogs, they trash talked other people, including the ladies, and mocked a senior citizen.  Again, maybe my values and morals are out of date, but by golly, I still believe in right and wrong and respecting other people, especially my elders. 

If I were asked  to come on the show and as part of the agreement, I'd  have to smack talk other people, trash their dogs, and act the baffoon.  My answer woulld be, "No thanks, keep your money and I'll keep my dignity."

If I wanted to play a part in a movie, then I'd act as silly as the part required.  But to play myself on TV, I'd want to come across as myself and not what the producers want me to be just for ratings.
I also wonder what the Campbells were thinking?  Did the show let them know in advance , "Hey, we are bringing in another crew and we're going to let them trash you on your own show, is that ok?"   

I'm not saying the Creek crew are bad people.  I'll take your word for it that they are decent people and leave it at that.  My point is, why embarass yourself on national television just because a producer asked you to in order to pad his own pockets?  If the audience is only going to see me for 30 minutes, I would hope they would see the good side of me and not something that I am not.  Does that not make sense? 
Surely Mr. Creek has family?  I would assume he wouldn't want his kids or grandkids watching that show and coming away with "Gee dad/grandpa, you stole that mans hog and sure made a fool of yourself in the process!"  If my daughter thought that, I would assume she's not alone? 
 
I guess I'm just expecting too much from a grown man these days?  But my dignity and my character are not for sale and no one can take them from me, but me.

And you are 100% correct, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect yours.  We are just two people discussing a topic and I will lose no sleep over any of this tonight.  The show is just a show and I realize it is not 100% accurate and is edited for ratings.   

i got only past the first few sentences. i guess you have never erver ever ever bad mouth or mocked anybody, either outloud or under you breath/in your mind? reality shows are very short movies, and both have more crap in them than a X-MAS turkey. i am not sure about mr. ronnie's age, but i know mr. randy is getn on up there, but yet he is my senior, and i have respect for randy, ronnie and david and 99.99% of my elders. 

[DSmith]

I wouldn't trash talk the Campbells or their dogs on camera

Here is a line you must have missed?