can of worms

[TexasHogDogs]

Am cheering you on PigRig LOL !  Two bits four bits six bits a dollar all for ole pig rig give him a holler yaaaaaaaa yip eeeeeeeee sic em .

[RyanTBH]

Pigrig and ausie I really like the way yall do things.  Personally I look at it as most pits I have been around are broke not dumb but sure not fast and nimble. There are some out there but most are game bred and a pain in the rear end on aggressiveness.  I am trying to breed a better dog for me in my eyes my original cross is a pit/ridgeback.  From here I will see what my pups have and go from here.  They are 7 months old and my 2 males are coming on good my females not so much yet but think they will.  There are a few people doing crosses like I am trying but we are not the norm.  I look at aussie style dogs and say that is what I am breeding for right there.  I like dogos they are nice breed when they are good but there are a lot of problems with them (skin deaf sight etc). Also getting to be a lot of pet breeders in dogos that is not helping none.  Tcolt on here has a nice dogo right now I really like him.  I want dogs that can do it all find catch and hold maybe not by them selves but 2 to 3 out at a time.  I will breed till I get the dog I'm looking for.

I will definitely agree that I've seen some aggressive pits, and for that matter bulldogs in general... But Baus is not at all unless provoked... Period. I want that type of sense in a bulldog, that when it comes down to business it's time to hunt, and not fight. I've seen a better handle than I have on Baus on a dog not even half his age too, and that impressed the hell out of me. So there are differences that people breed for and that was my point. I honestly think PJ is going to make a better dog though. :-(

Them dogos have a stride like a horse, then again they are as big as one... 

I've just never heard someone who knows anything about a dogo call them slow. I'm a tad bit dumbfounded at the moment lol

Lol you sure do like your Dogos huh? I'm just messing with you cause I like that passion, but that's cool. Lol! But I agree... PJ may be a cross, but she is fast as all get out! And has drive just as much as any dog on my yard. And she is thinking smart... She processes things and you can see it happen if you know your dogs. I don't have a pure bred dogo, but it's as close as I care to get cause I like where I'm headed now and I don't have a lot of money to throw down on a pure bred dogo! Lol! I like getting lines that are bred to work by people I trust and/or respect, and if that happened to be someone that had pure bred Dogos I'm sure I'd have one by now. Lol!

[RyanTBH]

And Tex u trip me out! Lol! Good post pigrig!

[dodgegirl]

Pigrig and ausie I really like the way yall do things.  Personally I look at it as most pits I have been around are broke not dumb but sure not fast and nimble. There are some out there but most are game bred and a pain in the rear end on aggressiveness.  I am trying to breed a better dog for me in my eyes my original cross is a pit/ridgeback.  From here I will see what my pups have and go from here.  They are 7 months old and my 2 males are coming on good my females not so much yet but think they will.  There are a few people doing crosses like I am trying but we are not the norm.  I look at aussie style dogs and say that is what I am breeding for right there.  I like dogos they are nice breed when they are good but there are a lot of problems with them (skin deaf sight etc). Also getting to be a lot of pet breeders in dogos that is not helping none.  Tcolt on here has a nice dogo right now I really like him.  I want dogs that can do it all find catch and hold maybe not by them selves but 2 to 3 out at a time.  I will breed till I get the dog I'm looking for.

I will definitely agree that I've seen some aggressive pits, and for that matter bulldogs in general... But Baus is not at all unless provoked... Period. I want that type of sense in a bulldog, that when it comes down to business it's time to hunt, and not fight. I've seen a better handle than I have on Baus on a dog not even half his age too, and that impressed the hell out of me. So there are differences that people breed for and that was my point. I honestly think PJ is going to make a better dog though. :-(

Them dogos have a stride like a horse, then again they are as big as one... 

I've just never heard someone who knows anything about a dogo call them slow. I'm a tad bit dumbfounded at the moment lol

Lol you sure do like your Dogos huh? I'm just messing with you cause I like that passion, but that's cool. Lol! But I agree... PJ may be a cross, but she is fast as all get out! And has drive just as much as any dog on my yard. And she is thinking smart... She processes things and you can see it happen if you know your dogs. I don't have a pure bred dogo, but it's as close as I care to get cause I like where I'm headed now and I don't have a lot of money to throw down on a pure bred dogo! Lol! I like getting lines that are bred to work by people I trust and/or respect, and if that happened to be someone that had pure bred Dogos I'm sure I'd have one by now. Lol!

I'm a huge dogo fan. I do have a lot of Passion for the breed. They are very smart, I've sat back and watched our dogos figure stuff out and still till this day don't know how they did it. In the next few years I hope to start my own line & sell pups to hunters at a lower price.

[pigrig]

Pigrig what do you water your bulldogs down with?

dont think it realy maters what dogs im running for this post nor what i personally think of any of the breeds im asking your thoughts '

[RyanTBH]

Pigrig what do you water your bulldogs down with?

dont think it realy maters what dogs im running for this post nor what i personally think of any of the breeds im asking your thoughts '

Oh come on!! That's like saying, "hey man, you know what....? Ah, never mind..." Lmao!

[pigrig]

Big, dumb, & slow? I'm not sure what kind of dogos you have been around. Yes my dogos are big. But by no means are they dumb or slow. They may not be perfect but they get the job done. Ain't no use in trying to fix something that ain't broke

[they may not be perfect] errr what do you mean dodgegirl how can you or what woud you like to improve

[TexasHogDogs]

Well let me go on and get in this thing.  I bred Bulldogs for close to 30 yrs and had great suscess with them world wide.  I agree there is a lot of fat slow bulldogs out there but at the same time there is some very athletic , tons of air , tons of heart kinda of bulldogs out there also .  Bulldogs do tend to run faster than most breeds but I suspect a lot of that is due to how people feed them and hunt them only once a week maybe some once twice a month .  You cannot expect a dog to be are stay in real condition like this therefore there is your heating up really quick.  Also there is different lines of bulldogs that are totally different than others .  Some lines are known for there wind , abuility and gameness then there are some that are known for there hard mouth , shorter wind and straight ahead style .  The regular ole hog hunter that dont know the differences in these lines has no ideal what he has are doesent have in a bulldog .  Also there is the scatter bred types of dogs out there and that most have that are some great dogs maybe but when breedng them there is just no telling which way the blood flows in there veins so it is impossiable to even begin to tell what kind of offspring they will throw , dogs with lungs , dogs with pure gameness , dogs with hard hard mouths what styles straight ahead chest dogs , backend dogs , ear dogs , leg dogs there is just no way to tell what is going to come out and therefore this is why you are seeing so much of noting these days when it comes to going to the pound and pickin you one up that will work are for that matter even a man that is breeding bull dogs that dont know these bloodlines and traits verses years ago you would go to the pound and pick you up a bulldog and most the time he would work out for you but now a days people are not breeding these family type dogs so you are getting a bunch of junk bred chit and the dog is performing just like his pedigree says JUNK !

Its just like breeding a great line of cur dogs that is known for this are that you know what you gonna get most the time if it is family type bred .  Other wise it is just like Rolling Dice  .

Its Pit Bull all the way for me I know what a good one is and have seen things most have not when it comes to bulldogs .

[TexasHogDogs]

Correction

Bulldogs do tend to run HOTTER faster than most breeds

[dodgegirl]

Big, dumb, & slow? I'm not sure what kind of dogos you have been around. Yes my dogos are big. But by no means are they dumb or slow. They may not be perfect but they get the job done. Ain't no use in trying to fix something that ain't broke

[they may not be perfect] errr what do you mean dodgegirl how can you or what woud you like to improve

I wish they had more nose to them. We have 2 or 3 dogos that will pick up on a fresh track but thats it. I would like my dogos to be able to pick up on not so fresh tracks and stay with it.

[pigrig]

Big, dumb, & slow? I'm not sure what kind of dogos you have been around. Yes my dogos are big. But by no means are they dumb or slow. They may not be perfect but they get the job done. Ain't no use in trying to fix something that ain't broke

[they may not be perfect] errr what do you mean dodgegirl how can you or what woud you like to improve

I wish they had more nose to them. We have 2 or 3 dogos that will pick up on a fresh track but thats it. I would like my dogos to be able to pick up on not so fresh tracks and stay with it.

cheers for the honesty dodgegirl this is what i was hopeing to come from the thread,so how do you intend to improve it

[dodgegirl]

Big, dumb, & slow? I'm not sure what kind of dogos you have been around. Yes my dogos are big. But by no means are they dumb or slow. They may not be perfect but they get the job done. Ain't no use in trying to fix something that ain't broke

[they may not be perfect] errr what do you mean dodgegirl how can you or what woud you like to improve

I wish they had more nose to them. We have 2 or 3 dogos that will pick up on a fresh track but thats it. I would like my dogos to be able to pick up on not so fresh tracks and stay with it.

cheers for the honesty dodgegirl this is what i was hopeing to come from the thread,so how do you intend to improve it

Well I haven't quiet come up with a way to improve it yet. But when I do I'll let ya know

[boarsnesthogdogs]

Big, dumb, & slow? I'm not sure what kind of dogos you have been around. Yes my dogos are big. But by no means are they dumb or slow. They may not be perfect but they get the job done. Ain't no use in trying to fix something that ain't broke

[they may not be perfect] errr what do you mean dodgegirl how can you or what woud you like to improve

I wish they had more nose to them. We have 2 or 3 dogos that will pick up on a fresh track but thats it. I would like my dogos to be able to pick up on not so fresh tracks and stay with it.

cheers for the honesty dodgegirl this is what i was hopeing to come from the thread,so how do you intend to improve it

Well I haven't quiet come up with a way to improve it yet. But when I do I'll let ya know

jagd terrier lol

[ROCKIN ROO HOG DOGS]

One very important factor to remember when talking about improving the dogo is this............The breed already exists of a handful of purebred dogs that were thrown in a blender to make it what it is. All this was only done in 1928 and theres no telling how long it took to get the line to start reproducing itself in a pure form. What im trying to get at is this breed is just an infant in the purebred world,hell the guy that started the breed hasnt been dead long enough yet for us to start messing with his concoction of ingredients. The closest i came to owning a dogo was a half dogo half pit and he did his job,nothing spectacular but not a pure dogo so i cant judge. I do know that dogo's are a banned breed in Australia ( and im sure that means new zealand also ? ) so to give you something to compare to pigrig,i would have to say the bull arab comes colosest. And the same question pops up,are hunters satisfied with the bull arab or would you add something to it to improve it? Both are relatively young breeds made up of a handful of other base breeds and diluting or adding to them,to me,only takes away from what the original inventor was trying to achieve. On a personal note,i guess you could say that by my dog being half pit,he was shorter in stature therfore making it easier to cross under fences and thick brush,sure it made things more convenient for me,but did crossing out the dogo to a pit improve on his catching abilities any? I dont believe so,he didnt catch any harder or smarter than eiither a pure pit or pure dogo. Good tough question though pigrig,happy hunting mate!!

[riverbottomhoghunter]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

[Mike]

A bulldog's job here is to go to a bay and catch the hog. Adding anything to that is just watering it down... not improving it.

[justincorbell]

A bulldog's job here is to go to a bay and catch the hog. Adding anything to that is just watering it down... not improving it.

AMEN!

[justincorbell]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

Yet another reason that I could care less to own another one, I am glad however for the ones of you that own good ones that have a job and do it well, I've owned two and they both sucked BAD hence my dislike for them.  My 50lb bulldog will go to sleep on my 4wheeler until she hears the first bark then its balls to the wall........just don't see the use in a 100+ pound energized dog not sittin still and shuttin up...............which is exactly what I want my CATCHDOG to do. If I own another big white dog it will be an AB and i've got my eyes on a line I'd love to get one out of.........cough underdog coughcough 

[djhogdogger]

i have recently enjoyed the posts on dogos vrs pit bulls  but i am going to put my self out there by rubing up some of you traditionalist and pureists by saying  generally speeking dogos are big dumb and slow ,and pit bulls are even thicker short legged heat intolerent meat heads''' now that statement shoud get a few of yous riled up . now hear is my point while these breeds do the job look good on the back of your truck and is a great point of conversation to talk about there liniage back to i know joe blow that was the cousin of the original dude that breed them......but are they the ultimate pig preditor or do you not have the balls to add to the breed to improve it

 I think that lots of people dream of having the best. And what is the "best" could be debated for eternity. But..... I find lots of satisfaction in getting the job done with what you have. There is a whole lot to be said for technique and finesse.

 Kinda like, any cowboy can rope a bull with a stout horse and a new lariat. But Im more impressed with the cowboy who can get it done with a shetland pony and some hay string.    I guess Im just weird like that. 

[Mike]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

Young man, how many dogos have you been around?