can of worms

[charles]

The best of anything is only in the eyes of the beholder, but could be considered substandard in the eyes of another. Wanting to improve what you hav is always nice, but like said before, why fix something that aint broken

[boarsnesthogdogs]

a dogo or a pit ive owned both only have as much energy as you allow them to have, of you hunt either breed once a month  and chain the rest of the time they will have no bottom both dogs need exercise everyday a min of 30min i had two excellent dogos and the rest of my cds have been bulldogs i hate to say it but my bulldogs would wear the dogos out, those bulldogs will run ther hearts out for YOU they just wanna please you and if that means meeting there maker for any reason they will do it with out fear and love in there hearts, but im just done with both breeds, seems like everytime you get a good pit and have him a few years actually gets along with the other dogs you lose him and dogos r a down payment on a new house, that might hunt and might not ive never seen a pit that wouldnt catch, ive seen dogos better bay dogs than catch dogs, i do like dogos and i do like pits they both have there up and there down i think a pit has a more killer drive and are alot more eager to please, and i think that the dogos r hunters but not near the drive of a pit, just from the ones ive owned and hunted not saying all jmo how bout a DOGO, PIT, AIRDALE cross maybe a little blutick for some more WANT TO

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

None of my bulldogs (hate that outdated term 'pits') are slow, short, and certainly not fat heat intolerant meatheads. Nothing but classic old family strain bulldogs on this here yard. You must be thinkin about them 'American Bully' kinda dogs. 

I use "pits" as a general term... How outsiders view them. Blake's Jane and my Baus I label either as a bulldog which is still general, or I say what they really are American Pit Bull Terrier APBT, and gamey too boot! Lol! No offense just clarification.

NP man, NP. You know what I mean then 

[RyanTBH]

None of my bulldogs (hate that outdated term 'pits') are slow, short, and certainly not fat heat intolerant meatheads. Nothing but classic old family strain bulldogs on this here yard. You must be thinkin about them 'American Bully' kinda dogs.  

I use "pits" as a general term... How outsiders view them. Blake's Jane and my Baus I label either as a bulldog which is still general, or I say what they really are American Pit Bull Terrier APBT, and gamey too boot! Lol! No offense just clarification.

NP man, NP. You know what I mean then  

Yes ma'am I do... and I couldn't agree more!

and I like this post cause I get where you are going Pigrig... but I think that the APBTs   are some of the most drive no quit dogs I've ever seen on the ground, WHEN THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING... now not just any pit is going to get the job done, but with the right handle, training, and experience I think they're one of the best dogs for the job. Not only because of their pain tolerence, but like someone else said... they want to please their owners and won't quit even staring death in the face. I do not think a real APBT can be improved upon, but it can be changed to suit different styles of hunting. For instance some of these folks that like a good RCD, or just rough dogs. Cross a good bulldog to a strike dog and you may come up with some hog stopping suckers!!! or you may just end up with a bunch of torn up/dead dogs... IMO it's a roll of the dice until you do it over and over till you find what you are lookin' for; but then why do that when you can probably go find a dog that will work instead of bringin a bunch of puppies into the world that may not make the cut. JMO and to each his/her own.

Good hunting this weekend everyone!  

*Some one is messing with me! LOL!

[Noah]

The Dogo is far from perfect, but after studying many, many dogs, it is the platform I have chosen to base my catchdog breeding program on.  The physical presence of the Dogo controls a big hog and saves damage to my cur dogs, plain and simple.  Another advantage to the breed is a bred in hog dog instinct that has truly impressed me.... Just as I look for this trait in my cur dog pups, I see a similar separation with some Dogos vs other bull breeds... specific instinct bred in. 

Overall size is the issue I am working to address... I plan on crossing the Dogo with a very hard cur, maybe even a bulldog(found a new line of bulldog I actually like..), in the hope of bringing the size down to the 65-85# range... with the intention of improving athleticism in heavy cover.

..certainly a work in progress.... that might not work at all... but that is dogs

[Reuben]

RyanTBH...I agree that the right pit bull is the most game or dead game dog there is pound for pound and they will tackle any game no matter the size or how dangerous...once they focus it is kill or be killed...and like Mike said...crossing a good pit bull is really watering down the bull dog but that could be a good thing depending on what is needed...

The pitbull and the line of mt.curs I had would produce a dog that would find a hog and catch it and no barking which was a fault because it was hard to pin point where the dog was if it was fighting a big boar...no bark no squeal...

[riverbottomhoghunter]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

Young man, how many dogos have you been around?

              quiet a few dogos an alot of pits and the dogos were ALOT better than the pits

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

Young man, how many dogos have you been around?

              quiet a few dogos an alot of pits and the dogos were ALOT better than the pits

In what specific ways did you find them better?

[riverbottomhoghunter]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

Young man, how many dogos have you been around?

              quiet a few dogos an alot of pits and the dogos were ALOT better than the pits

In what specific ways did you find them better?

             well i like joking around on the subject       

               but how i find them better is my dogo has more anergy than my pit my dogo is stronger  faster holds and handels big hogs better

[cody l]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

Young man, how many dogos have you been around?

              quiet a few dogos an alot of pits and the dogos were ALOT better than the pits

In what specific ways did you find them better?

             well i like joking around on the subject       

               but how i find them better is my dogo has more anergy than my pit my dogo is stronger  faster holds and handels big hogs better

Isnt your "Dogo" crossed with a pit?

[riverbottomhoghunter]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

Young man, how many dogos have you been around?

              quiet a few dogos an alot of pits and the dogos were ALOT better than the pits

In what specific ways did you find them better?

             well i like joking around on the subject       

               but how i find them better is my dogo has more anergy than my pit my dogo is stronger  faster holds and handels big hogs better

              3/4 dogo and 1/4 PITT

[ETHHunters]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

Young man, how many dogos have you been around?

              quiet a few dogos an alot of pits and the dogos were ALOT better than the pits

In what specific ways did you find them better?

             well i like joking around on the subject       

               but how i find them better is my dogo has more anergy than my pit my dogo is stronger  faster holds and handels big hogs better

              3/4 dogo and 1/4 PITT

Its funny you give all the credit to the dogo side of your cross when its obvious the 1/4 pit is out shinning it!

[cody l]

Pigrig just out of curiosity, what makes you say dogos are dumb & slow?

              x 2 a dogo has mor energy than any pit has ever had 

Young man, how many dogos have you been around?

              quiet a few dogos an alot of pits and the dogos were ALOT better than the pits

In what specific ways did you find them better?

             well i like joking around on the subject       

               but how i find them better is my dogo has more anergy than my pit my dogo is stronger  faster holds and handels big hogs better

              3/4 dogo and 1/4 PITT

Its funny you give all the credit to the dogo side of your cross when its obvious the 1/4 pit is out shinning it!

lol kinda my point.

[T-Bob Parker]

My goodness yall, enough already. I can't stand the silliness anymore when it comes to the "mystery" aspect of dogos!!!!!!!

You do realize they are nothing more than a south American bulldog that some fellas made up a nice
Backstory on and sold lots of pups!!!
Just like Blue pits, its was just somebodies preference and they devoted lots of time to them and peddled them. They ain't no different then just another strain of bulldog.


Please, someone please please pretty please explain how you take ten extremely different breeds of dog and mix em all together an come out with a white american bulldog, in such a short
Amount of time and don't end up with shaggy, or total reverses or dogs with boxer face or all the other various dominant traits that got buried majicly?!?!?!?

They are just a south American bulldog.

[Reuben]

I was thinking about crossing a white american bulldog with a harlequin great dane and then selling the white pups as Dogos and the spotted ones as dogo pit bull crosses...JK... 

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

Oooooo-wee, lol. This thread just goes in circles!

[Melonhead]

Bottom line, a good dogo is worth it's weight in gold.

People say they want it to have a better nose, but they won't put them on the ground. They say they don't catch but only judge it off the few or one they saw.
When your dogo is over a mile away and caught on something by itself, your gonna $hit your pants.

Biggest problems i noticed - slow maturing, size and weight ( if your on foot, they get too far ahead of you, and if you use a wheeler, your loaded up with one dogo and one cur dog ), inconsistant as far as drive, ability, and the want to hunt.
Any dog you choose will be held to high standards, doesn't matter what breed

[DogoDave]

Pigrig, I'm not sure what dogos you hunted with or where they came from but they are not the dogos I have nor that I have seen. These dogs are big in comparison to most hog dogs. They develop and mature slower. My alpha male absolutely smashed the first hog he ever saw, the instant he saw it, his first time in the bay pin. His first real hunt he separated from the curs, i was irritated but within minutes he found and caught his first hog. This same dog has jumped a 6' privacy fence and runs 4 miles a day when he is not hunted, on the tread mill without any harnesses, etc... This may not be your style of dog but the dogo is not big, dumb or slow. He is now 1.5 years old!

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

I think alot of it has to do with how each individual conditions their dogs too. If someone isn't conditioning a dog the way it needs to be, the dog is never going to perform to it's fullest potential. That same dog could be in someone elses hands and be an amazing performer. This goes for any breed of dog. I've seen this scenario with my own eyes. I've also seen dogs that just flat out don't work well for one individual, but will work GREAT for someone else.

[dodgegirl]

I think alot of it has to do with how each individual conditions their dogs too. If someone isn't conditioning a dog the way it needs to be, the dog is never going to perform to it's fullest potential. That same dog could be in someone elses hands and be an amazing performer. This goes for any breed of dog. I've seen this scenario with my own eyes. I've also seen dogs that just flat out don't work well for one individual, but will work GREAT for someone else.

I agree, our dogos have to have a lot of exercise. We have a spring pole and we run them.