They say school is important

[7Mhunter]

They say school is important but i cant stay off here or coondawgs.com i guess i can say im addicated to hunting

[dwhd93]

Hahaha my ag teacher didn't care if I was in his class at all for the whole day lol especially durin this time of year with all the fair projects goin on hell I bet I did most of the work on half of the projectsstill not sure how I passed precal cause I wasn't ever there!

[7Mhunter]

Haha im in ag right now and we have a sub so we get away with everything

[RyanTBH]

I hate to be "that guy", but school is very important! Do it right the first time, and get out and go to college! If you don't have a degree nowadays you are in for a long trip! Of course there are a few folks that can get by or make a good living without one, so don't get me wrong; but IMO you are a lot better off with a degree! Stay in the books and in the woods and you'll do fine!

[t.wilbanks]

I hate to be "that guy", but school is very important! Do it right the first time, and get out and go to college! If you don't have a degree nowadays you are in for a long trip! Of course there are a few folks that can get by or make a good living without one, so don't get me wrong; but IMO you are a lot better off with a degree! Stay in the books and in the woods and you'll do fine!

Right now there are probably just as many people with degrees that can find a job as those without one...

[7Mhunter]

I know that guys but every lil free te i have is devoted to huntin then im on here lol

[RyanTBH]

I hate to be "that guy", but school is very important! Do it right the first time, and get out and go to college! If you don't have a degree nowadays you are in for a long trip! Of course there are a few folks that can get by or make a good living without one, so don't get me wrong; but IMO you are a lot better off with a degree! Stay in the books and in the woods and you'll do fine!

Right now there are probably just as many people with degrees that can find a job as those without one...

yep, and that makes it even more tough for people without degrees to get jobs over the people with em... It will get better if we ca get some change in the big house... Lol! Good luck with ur schooling bud!

[Eric]

A degree has little value... Knowledge is worth getting... At the end of the day it all lands on YOU. You can own the fastest car on the world but if you can't drive it your still going to lose the race.

[RyanTBH]

Let me clear this up, and then I'll shut up... If you have the opportunity to get a degree DO IT! Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it! They are right to an extent... Hell my God father is a millionaire and he didn’t finish his degree, but good luck having that luck buddy! It’s better to have a backup plan, cause you’re not going to be able to hog dog until you die… and if you’re making good enough money off selling hogs to make a living then all power to you. I’m not saying that you have to have a degree to do goo, cause hell, I only have my associates, but it helps! Trust and believe, coming from someone who is lucky to be alive, stay in and finish everything you can… cause real life will hit hard, fast, and before you know it you will have kids and payments to take care of! Now I’ll get off my soap box, but keep up the schooling!

[7Mhunter]

Lol i dont sell hogs i sell dogs and i know school is very important

[reatj81]

Ryan, well worded.   I would sure do things different if I could go back and do them over!   The first thing I would do us make school # 1 priority!   Money cannot buy happiness, but it pays the elect bill, & puts food on the table.

[pigrig]

school is a great place to eat your lunch

[RyanTBH]

Lol i dont sell hogs i sell dogs and i know school is very important

I hope so... and I don't mean to preach, but I tell it to every young guy I get a chance to. Good job and keep it up man! It won't last forever, and when it's over you'll wish you were back at it!!!

Ryan, well worded.   I would sure do things different if I could go back and do them over!   The first thing I would do us make school # 1 priority!   Money cannot buy happiness, but it pays the elect bill, & puts food on the table.

Man I know that's right, and thanks! I would love to finish my college degree, but yet again here comes the money factor. It should've been #1 priorty then entire time I was in it! My problem wasn't the work that they dished out in high school... it was actually being there in the first place. Other kids would get mad at me cause I wouldn't ever be in school except when it was time to take a test. I'd come in, make an A on the test, and then walk right back out. Finally the teachers started getting on to me telling me it wasn't fair. I said what, because they have been here every day and I'm out scoring them on the test? LOL! Honestly, it took me to realize that I could be dead to have the want to finish. When you loose two of your best friends a month apart at age 17 it will open your eyes and let you know that you won't be here for ever and could be gone tomorrow.

[7Mhunter]

Lol i dont sell hogs i sell dogs and i know school is very important

I hope so... and I don't mean to preach, but I tell it to every young guy I get a chance to. Good job and keep it up man! It won't last forever, and when it's over you'll wish you were back at it!!!

Ryan, well worded.   I would sure do things different if I could go back and do them over!   The first thing I would do us make school # 1 priority!   Money cannot buy happiness, but it pays the elect bill, & puts food on the table.

haha ryan i hate to tell ya but im a girl
Man I know that's right, and thanks! I would love to finish my college degree, but yet again here comes the money factor. It should've been #1 priorty then entire time I was in it! My problem wasn't the work that they dished out in high school... it was actually being there in the first place. Other kids would get mad at me cause I wouldn't ever be in school except when it was time to take a test. I'd come in, make an A on the test, and then walk right back out. Finally the teachers started getting on to me telling me it wasn't fair. I said what, because they have been here every day and I'm out scoring them on the test? LOL! Honestly, it took me to realize that I could be dead to have the want to finish. When you loose two of your best friends a month apart at age 17 it will open your eyes and let you know that you won't be here for ever and could be gone tomorrow.

[SCHitemHard]

ryan you hit it on the head. i opted out cause college wasnt my thing. couldnt land real jobs with no degree. but id be danged if i have a job now that needed a bach degree and i dont have one. fella said i dont need one with the head on my shoulders.

[7Mhunter]

school is a great place to eat your lunch

Haha unless your lunch is gross

[Circle C]

Lol i dont sell hogs i sell dogs and i know school is very important

I hope so... and I don't mean to preach, but I tell it to every young guy I get a chance to. Good job and keep it up man! It won't last forever, and when it's over you'll wish you were back at it!!!

Ryan, well worded.   I would sure do things different if I could go back and do them over!   The first thing I would do us make school # 1 priority!   Money cannot buy happiness, but it pays the elect bill, & puts food on the table.

Man I know that's right, and thanks! I would love to finish my college degree, but yet again here comes the money factor. It should've been #1 priorty then entire time I was in it! My problem wasn't the work that they dished out in high school... it was actually being there in the first place. Other kids would get mad at me cause I wouldn't ever be in school except when it was time to take a test. I'd come in, make an A on the test, and then walk right back out. Finally the teachers started getting on to me telling me it wasn't fair. I said what, because they have been here every day and I'm out scoring them on the test? LOL! Honestly, it took me to realize that I could be dead to have the want to finish. When you loose two of your best friends a month apart at age 17 it will open your eyes and let you know that you won't be here for ever and could be gone tomorrow.

Ever consider the cost of a college education vs the benefit?

4-5 years of books, tuition  + 4-5 years lost "on-the-job" experience   VS. just getting into a trade right out of high school and sticking with it....  Makes one wonder just how valuable a college education really is...

My best friend beat out 6 other candidates for a position with a major industrial gas company, he has a high school diploma and nothing more. The other 6 candidates all had college degrees...

At 20 years old my brother was making 70k a year with no degree, in the IT industry.

Heck, I pay the guys that work in my warehouse $19.00 per hour, and I don't care what level of education they have. That's just under 40k a year with no OT... My little sister, with a masters degree works as a teacher and only makes 45k.  Just the cost of her degree, it will take her well over a decade @ 5k per year above my warehouse guy, just to make her degree pay... not to mention the 5-6 years she lost in the workforce... That puts my warehouse guy at over 200k above her in earnings, before she ever deposits her first paycheck.

Now, I am not saying college is a bad thing, and certainly some fields do require a degree. The reality, is that a college education is no more a prerequisite for a good job today than it was 30 years ago.

[RyanTBH]

Lol i dont sell hogs i sell dogs and i know school is very important

I hope so... and I don't mean to preach, but I tell it to every young guy I get a chance to. Good job and keep it up man! It won't last forever, and when it's over you'll wish you were back at it!!!

Ryan, well worded.   I would sure do things different if I could go back and do them over!   The first thing I would do us make school # 1 priority!   Money cannot buy happiness, but it pays the elect bill, & puts food on the table.

haha ryan i hate to tell ya but im a girl
Man I know that's right, and thanks! I would love to finish my college degree, but yet again here comes the money factor. It should've been #1 priorty then entire time I was in it! My problem wasn't the work that they dished out in high school... it was actually being there in the first place. Other kids would get mad at me cause I wouldn't ever be in school except when it was time to take a test. I'd come in, make an A on the test, and then walk right back out. Finally the teachers started getting on to me telling me it wasn't fair. I said what, because they have been here every day and I'm out scoring them on the test? LOL! Honestly, it took me to realize that I could be dead to have the want to finish. When you loose two of your best friends a month apart at age 17 it will open your eyes and let you know that you won't be here for ever and could be gone tomorrow.

Even better... good luck to you out there! It's a hard, tough, cold world... but if you know how to grab it by the horns you can make it do what you need it to, and then everything else just falls into place. (Need being the key word in that statement, not want! LOL!) 

[SCHitemHard]

Lol i dont sell hogs i sell dogs and i know school is very important

I hope so... and I don't mean to preach, but I tell it to every young guy I get a chance to. Good job and keep it up man! It won't last forever, and when it's over you'll wish you were back at it!!!

Ryan, well worded.   I would sure do things different if I could go back and do them over!   The first thing I would do us make school # 1 priority!   Money cannot buy happiness, but it pays the elect bill, & puts food on the table.

Man I know that's right, and thanks! I would love to finish my college degree, but yet again here comes the money factor. It should've been #1 priorty then entire time I was in it! My problem wasn't the work that they dished out in high school... it was actually being there in the first place. Other kids would get mad at me cause I wouldn't ever be in school except when it was time to take a test. I'd come in, make an A on the test, and then walk right back out. Finally the teachers started getting on to me telling me it wasn't fair. I said what, because they have been here every day and I'm out scoring them on the test? LOL! Honestly, it took me to realize that I could be dead to have the want to finish. When you loose two of your best friends a month apart at age 17 it will open your eyes and let you know that you won't be here for ever and could be gone tomorrow.

Ever consider the cost of a college education vs the benefit?

4-5 years of books, tuition  + 4-5 years lost "on-the-job" experience   VS. just getting into a trade right out of high school and sticking with it....  Makes one wonder just how valuable a college education really is...

My best friend beat out 6 other candidates for a position with a major industrial gas company, he has a high school diploma and nothing more. The other 6 candidates all had college degrees...

At 20 years old my brother was making 70k a year with no degree, in the IT industry.

Heck, I pay the guys that work in my warehouse $19.00 per hour, and I don't care what level of education they have. That's just under 40k a year with no OT... My little sister, with a masters degree works as a teacher and only makes 45k.  Just the cost of her degree, it will take her well over a decade @ 5k per year above my warehouse guy, just to make her degree pay... not to mention the 5-6 years she lost in the workforce... That puts my warehouse guy at over 200k above her in earnings, before she ever deposits her first paycheck.

Now, I am not saying college is a bad thing, and certainly some fields do require a degree. The reality, is that a college education is no more a prerequisite for a good job today than it was 30 years ago.

you hiring 

[RyanTBH]

Lol i dont sell hogs i sell dogs and i know school is very important

I hope so... and I don't mean to preach, but I tell it to every young guy I get a chance to. Good job and keep it up man! It won't last forever, and when it's over you'll wish you were back at it!!!

Ryan, well worded.   I would sure do things different if I could go back and do them over!   The first thing I would do us make school # 1 priority!   Money cannot buy happiness, but it pays the elect bill, & puts food on the table.

Man I know that's right, and thanks! I would love to finish my college degree, but yet again here comes the money factor. It should've been #1 priorty then entire time I was in it! My problem wasn't the work that they dished out in high school... it was actually being there in the first place. Other kids would get mad at me cause I wouldn't ever be in school except when it was time to take a test. I'd come in, make an A on the test, and then walk right back out. Finally the teachers started getting on to me telling me it wasn't fair. I said what, because they have been here every day and I'm out scoring them on the test? LOL! Honestly, it took me to realize that I could be dead to have the want to finish. When you loose two of your best friends a month apart at age 17 it will open your eyes and let you know that you won't be here for ever and could be gone tomorrow.

Ever consider the cost of a college education vs the benefit?

4-5 years of books, tuition  + 4-5 years lost "on-the-job" experience   VS. just getting into a trade right out of high school and sticking with it....  Makes one wonder just how valuable a college education really is...

My best friend beat out 6 other candidates for a position with a major industrial gas company, he has a high school diploma and nothing more. The other 6 candidates all had college degrees...

At 20 years old my brother was making 70k a year with no degree, in the IT industry.

Heck, I pay the guys that work in my warehouse $19.00 per hour, and I don't care what level of education they have. That's just under 40k a year with no OT... My little sister, with a masters degree works as a teacher and only makes 45k.  Just the cost of her degree, it will take her well over a decade @ 5k per year above my warehouse guy, just to make her degree pay... not to mention the 5-6 years she lost in the workforce... That puts my warehouse guy at over 200k above her in earnings, before she ever deposits her first paycheck.

Now, I am not saying college is a bad thing, and certainly some fields do require a degree. The reality, is that a college education is no more a prerequisite for a good job today than it was 30 years ago.

I will agree to disagree... The way you word it, yes, you are right. It seems that they benifit much more, but break it down. The teacher gets off all summer, paid, and Christmas/New Years and all other major holidays, paid. 401K, and on top of that she/he probably gets PTO (paid time off). So she/he is working inside, not breaking her body, and teaching others to continue to better our country; because not everyone is going to be able to do manual labor their whole life, or even long enough to put enough money back to retire on. The IT friend of yours, he is lucky, and obviously worked hard enough to know what he knows to get paid so well which in itself is technically schooling in one way or another. Does he have any certs? Cause if he is making that without any certs at all I'd be suprised, and I'd like to figure out where I can get hired on at. LOL! Books can be loaned out from the schools if you can not afford them. Pay for your school by working a part/full time job as I did and then you won't owe any body any money for loans... Then what are you out, time? Well as I stated previously, I worked and went to school at the same time, and was doing IT on the side for some extra money... So you CAN do it all, you just have to learn how to manage your time right. Be smart, and make smart decisions. I'm not saying it is for everyone, but if you have the opportunity to be able to go to college do so at least for long enough to figure out what you really want. What you want now, and what you want 10-20 years from now may differ dramatically from each other. So it's better to be prepaired for the long haul now, than to get somewhere that you are going to be wishing you had. Shoot, get you a job using some natural skills, go to school at the same time, and then you have a degree to fall back on if things don't plan out or you get hurt or anything at all could happen.

Let me ask you this Circle C... Do you provide 401K, Health benifits, PTO? What happens if one of your employees gets hurt on the job? What kind of labor is it? To me, all of this falls into what you want to do for a carrer and for the rest of your working days, if those ever do end and what kind of pain do you want to cause your body. I'm all for manual labor, as I get plenty of it in my off time; but I do want to be able to continue to stay as young as possible when it comes to being able to play with my daughter or her friends and not being old and hurt all the time cause I break my back at work and don't get any time off to be able to spend with my family. There are pros and cons to both sides, but when you break it down, if you have the ability and opportunity to go to school do so and I promise you won't regret it.

I mean no disrepect by my rebuttal, I just firmly believe that good schooling can take you places that absent schooling cannot!