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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2012, 10:07:59 am » |
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Outlaw he weighed 83 pounds at 8 months old put him on scales today 111 pounds its a bad pic I promise ur dog don't dwarf him bring him put em side by side Wat is ur dogs girth around his chest
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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2012, 10:17:15 am » |
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Here is the sire to my pup. He is wallace bred. Don't think he was quite 100 but is a beast of a pit.
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2012, 03:28:20 pm » |
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I'm fixing to buy a blue one that weighs around 90 but guy says hes no speed demon but is suppose to hit one like a train and have a hell of a grip. What is yalls opinion on how important speed is? I usually send mine from 50-100yds away from the bay. Depending on terrain. What kind of speed do these big dogs have that yall are showing pics of?
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2012, 03:52:58 pm » |
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speed to me is a big big part of what i breed for...i let my catch dogs go from diff ranges but i find a lot of runners and if the cd isnt there in that few min bayed we wont stop it again..i would like to know how these big ones do also? i have one thats about 65..no where near 100 but with muscle some would say hes 90 ha i dont want any bigger than him because of thick brush...not because he gets stuck but because since hes so big he just busts thru it and tears himself up on briars and stuff..jmo though lol
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2012, 05:19:43 pm » |
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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2012, 07:32:37 pm » |
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I was an ADBA judge for over 20 years and saw many over 100# registered APBT's. Most all came from Whopper-Dagger-Camelot or possibly Couteriour lines. There were questions on all these lines being purebred but it was never challenged in the DNA era. They were wt. pullin dogs. Most of the APBT's over 100# that I've seen are usually 20# or more overweight for the best results.
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2012, 10:38:54 pm » |
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I was an ADBA judge for over 20 years and saw many over 100# registered APBT's. Most all came from Whopper-Dagger-Camelot or possibly Couteriour lines. There were questions on all these lines being purebred but it was never challenged in the DNA era. They were wt. pullin dogs. Most of the APBT's over 100# that I've seen are usually 20# or more overweight for the best results.
Exactly. The Whopper dogs have Mastiff crossed in, and there's proof of that too. Funny how that was swept under the rug if you will.
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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2012, 11:50:08 pm » |
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It was a type of mastiff, Dogue deux Bourdeaux.
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2012, 05:56:58 am » |
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They told me beefy was a whopper cross when I got him but idk nothin bout pedigrees. All I know is he is big like I wanted. Now to find a leggy 70lb gyp for him later on.
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2012, 07:52:36 am » |
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What kind of speed do these big dogs have??
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« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2012, 07:57:30 am » |
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This one was right under a 100 lbs at about low 90 lbs but not sloopy and very conditioned. Very tight and muscular with power and agility for his size. One of the few pits I had over 50 lbs. I never really carried any pits besides game ones so "Mammoth pits" aren't the norm for me. Only once in my lifetime have I seen a freak of nature who came out 100 lbs from two game line pits. Parents weighed between 40-50 lbs and came from old family rednose. Name was Bucket and his parents had over 6 litters in a span of 10 years and only Bucket came out that huge. All the others were consistant between 38-50 lbs in weight. But everynow and then nature does throw a freak. My cousin is 6'5 275 solid and played college ball for West Point and was a beast. Pretty rare for a mexican kid. lol His father was like 5'4 and mom was 5'0. He came out of his moma so you couldn't question that and he looked like the giant version of his father so pretty sure he wasn't the milk mans kid. lol His little brothers came out average about 5'7, yet still taller than both parents, not anywhere the size of there "mamoth" bro. You start getting into Whopper, Razor Edge, Gotti, Woods, Camelot, Watchdog, Gaff, Monster G lines those aren't pits anymore. They are pits who down the line were cross with mastiff, AM bulldog, presa, or some other bully or mastiff line. Even my boy below had some AM staff lines that in my opinion were questionable and I've been doing this for a long time not to realize he had something in the soup down the line other than old school type pits. But he still pulled more to a working type pit for his size cause of his capabilities and ability to do super things at a large weight. Plus he didn't have any heavy Gotti, Razor edge etc type blood I mention above which tends to be blood bred for color and size vs working abilities.
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« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2012, 09:10:10 am » |
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this thread answered alot of my questions good thread . that every bulldog is called a [ pit ] is what confuses me , i seen alot of well bred [ pits ] and they were all in the 60# tops class . to call a 120# bulldog a pit goes against the definition of a pit dog to me . kinda like calling a big ol rhode island red a gamecock lol
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« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2012, 09:17:11 am » |
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these dogs look impressive wonder how game they are
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« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2012, 09:55:44 am » |
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Half breed this a pit to me. Again, my opinion but true to type and what I grew up around. This boy is what I'd consider a bigger game pit. Yet he only weights in a little over 50 lbs not condition for game.
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« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2012, 12:38:31 pm » |
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this thread answered alot of my questions good thread . that every bulldog is called a [ pit ] is what confuses me , i seen alot of well bred [ pits ] and they were all in the 60# tops class . to call a 120# bulldog a pit goes against the definition of a pit dog to me . kinda like calling a big ol rhode island red a gamecock lol
x2 When i got into doggin i was confused on why people were using *bulldogs to catch, especially since they looked like PITbulls. I have 2 40-45# PITbulls, and am proud of em the male is leggier, female has a little more squat to her and is broader, but both are fast as heck
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« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2012, 01:45:21 pm » |
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this thread answered alot of my questions good thread . that every bulldog is called a [ pit ] is what confuses me , i seen alot of well bred [ pits ] and they were all in the 60# tops class . to call a 120# bulldog a pit goes against the definition of a pit dog to me . kinda like calling a big ol rhode island red a gamecock lol
X2 to me if a pit weighs more then 60# its just a bulldog because I think they have some other breed in them. I have 2 female pits and one weighs 40# and the other one is 50# to me that's what a pit should weigh
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« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2012, 05:12:24 pm » |
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So u said cane corso bred in whopper line so I started wondering about beefys moms saggy jowls. Googled corsos n I bet she might be crossed. What y'all think. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I847 using Tapatalk 2
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« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2012, 07:04:41 pm » |
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With all that extra skin I would say so.
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