CULLING DOGS

[bigthickethogdogs]

Need help from some guys that have raised dogs for several years.

my ? is how long do yal give a dog befor you cull him, not just becaus they dont work tho
i want all my dogs that i keep to be NO QUIT , stay with a hog till they stop type dogs
i have give away r sold a couple of dogs in the past 5 years that some people thought were good dogs would not stay with a
running hog more about 30 min
i have been give most dogs till 4 r 5 years old to try in see wat type their going to be just wondering wat some of yall do

[t.wilbanks]

I haven't raised dogs for many years, but IMO, By 5 years of age if the dog hasn't shown to amount to much, most likely it ain going to...

If mine ain't rolling good by 2 years and doing something on their own, that's too long for me...  Again just my opinion of what I want out of a dog...

[halfbreed]

   gyps 18 months males 2 years . but i have a couple dogs here that will not stick with a runner just use them for small tracts of land .

[justincorbell]

Perfect example of different strokes for different folks.

          I personally don't care for a dog that stays with a hog for hours, if you can't get him stopped in 45 mins to an hour then come on back and lets find another. I don't like chasing one hog all night, I like catching multiple hogs in a night and if that means leaving the runners running and catchin the hogs that want to sit up and bay then it's fine with me. Don't get me wrong a good long run every now and again ain't bad but I love the hunts where the dogs find and shut down the hog within a few hundred yards before the foot race ever starts.

[cdc505]

I'm with Justin on this I hunt with a group of guys so say 3 people have dogs and we get on a runner right off with the first set of dogs then somebody doesn't get to hunt their dogs cause were chasing the first set. That's just how we do it

[Blake F]

Perfect example of different strokes for different folks.

I agree that everyone hunts different. Sometimes my buddies and I take our "rough dogs" that wont really grind it out all night because they will catch. However our rough dogs dont seem to have the better noses. So when we really just want to get on a hog, we take our loose bay dogs, they will stay with a hog all night. Yes, you may only catch one, but its better than catching none.

[bigthickethogdogs]

I haven't raised dogs for many years, but IMO, By 5 years of age if the dog hasn't shown to amount to much, most likely it ain going to...

If mine ain't rolling good by 2 years and doing something on their own, that's too long for me...  Again just my opinion of what I want out of a dog...

thanks man 2 years is wat i was leaning toward, because 4 n 5 years is too long
just an example i got three ten month old pups right now all three bay hogs in a pen
been working cow w/ em and only one will stay hooked when a cow breaks n runs over 400 r 500 yards
all three will bay n drive as long as Im close by but just think ten month old is a little young to cull

[bigthickethogdogs]

Perfect example of different strokes for different folks.

          I personally don't care for a dog that stays with a hog for hours, if you can't get him stopped in 45 mins to an hour then come on back and lets find another. I don't like chasing one hog all night, I like catching multiple hogs in a night and if that means leaving the runners running and catchin the hogs that want to sit up and bay then it's fine with me. Don't get me wrong a good long run every now and again ain't bad but I love the hunts where the dogs find and shut down the hog within a few hundred yards before the foot race ever starts.

ya man i gave one dog to a guy who hunts the henderson ranch its pretty open land and lots of hogs. he said the dog was one of best
he has ever owned

[Reuben]

different breeds and strains start at different ages...I have a 1/2 redbone 1/4 amer. bulldog 1/4 pitbull that looks like a pure cur dog that I really like...not the best around but pretty good. he hunted some at a year and at 2 years is fair...

my expectation of a good dog of the type I like must show something at 6-8 months old and be hunting good at a year old and put a hog at the other end of the tracks at 18 months old...but at a year he should be finding its own hog...I also make note of all the pups that start early and only breed those...over a period of time early starters beget more early starters...inbreeding and line breeding these type of dogs will clean up the gene pool sooner than later...

[7Mhunter]

My dad has his bloodlime of dogs since the 70's then his grampa and great gramp goes back to the 1800s and we give dogs till there about 1 or 1 1/2 or three chances if they dont have the hunt when there pups we dont keep them there eiether born with it or not

[bigthickethogdogs]

different breeds and strains start at different ages...I have a 1/2 redbone 1/4 amer. bulldog 1/4 pitbull that looks like a pure cur dog that I really like...not the best around but pretty good. he hunted some at a year and at 2 years is fair...

my expectation of a good dog of the type I like must show something at 6-8 months old and be hunting good at a year old and put a hog at the other end of the tracks at 18 months old...but at a year he should be finding its own hog...I also make note of all the pups that start early and only breed those...over a period of time early starters beget more early starters...inbreeding and line breeding these type of dogs will clean up the gene pool sooner than later...

i agree wat your saying but @ 18 months do you expect them to stay w/ a runner  for at least 3 to 4 hours

[bigthickethogdogs]

My dad has his bloodlime of dogs since the 70's then his grampa and great gramp goes back to the 1800s and we give dogs till there about 1 or 1 1/2 or three chances if they dont have the hunt when there pups we dont keep them there eiether born with it or not

yea my dogs are from old hog dog lines too, when you say three chances is that if they quit a race three times
then out

[txsteve85]

12-16 months to show me they hate pigs and showing lots of potential, they better be very interested and baying in mock hunts.I'm very impatient...

[t.wilbanks]

If your dogs are from an old line and not scatter bred, you should be able to look back at the dogs they come from, or talk to the folks they come from and get an idea of what to expect out of them...

[Reuben]

different breeds and strains start at different ages...I have a 1/2 redbone 1/4 amer. bulldog 1/4 pitbull that looks like a pure cur dog that I really like...not the best around but pretty good. he hunted some at a year and at 2 years is fair...

my expectation of a good dog of the type I like must show something at 6-8 months old and be hunting good at a year old and put a hog at the other end of the tracks at 18 months old...but at a year he should be finding its own hog...I also make note of all the pups that start early and only breed those...over a period of time early starters beget more early starters...inbreeding and line breeding these type of dogs will clean up the gene pool sooner than later...

i agree wat your saying but @ 18 months do you expect them to stay w/ a runner  for at least 3 to 4 hours

The very best ones did make that long race at 12 months and all that I kept by 18 months... but I usually culled them before 18 months...also when the dogs have been put up for a while and out of shape even my old dogs got over heated and quit after a long run in the thick briars...so every prospect must be evaluated according to different weather conditions and terrain...everything must be considered as the pup is growing including how much exposure and training...but I agree with 7MHunter...a hunting dog is born not made...same as a star is born and not made...

[bigthickethogdogs]

If your dogs are from an old line and not scatter bred, you should be able to look back at the dogs they come from, or talk to the folks they come from and get an idea of what to expect out of them...

yes i have been talking to my grandpa and uncle i belive i have a good plan
i have a gip that i like, and her dad and grandpa wer the no quit type dog

[bigthickethogdogs]

different breeds and strains start at different ages...I have a 1/2 redbone 1/4 amer. bulldog 1/4 pitbull that looks like a pure cur dog that I really like...not the best around but pretty good. he hunted some at a year and at 2 years is fair...

my expectation of a good dog of the type I like must show something at 6-8 months old and be hunting good at a year old and put a hog at the other end of the tracks at 18 months old...but at a year he should be finding its own hog...I also make note of all the pups that start early and only breed those...over a period of time early starters beget more early starters...inbreeding and line breeding these type of dogs will clean up the gene pool sooner than later...

i agree wat your saying but @ 18 months do you expect them to stay w/ a runner  for at least 3 to 4 hours

thank you Reuben
The very best ones did make that long race at 12 months and all that I kept by 18 months... but I usually culled them before 18 months...also when the dogs have been put up for a while and out of shape even my old dogs got over heated and quit after a long run in the thick briars...so every prospect must be evaluated according to different weather conditions and terrain...everything must be considered as the pup is growing including how much exposure and training...but I agree with 7MHunter...a hunting dog is born not made...same as a star is born and not made...

[Reuben]

If your dogs are from an old line and not scatter bred, you should be able to look back at the dogs they come from, or talk to the folks they come from and get an idea of what to expect out of them...

yes i have been talking to my grandpa and uncle i belive i have a good plan
i have a gip that i like, and her dad and grandpa wer the no quit type dog

the question is how good is the father and grandfather???  then look at said dogs parents or get the info from the owners if the older dogs are dead...Make the analysis and breed the gyp to her dad or grand dad according to your analysis of the 2...

[bigthickethogdogs]

If your dogs are from an old line and not scatter bred, you should be able to look back at the dogs they come from, or talk to the folks they come from and get an idea of what to expect out of them...

yes i have been talking to my grandpa and uncle i belive i have a good plan
i have a gip that i like, and her dad and grandpa wer the no quit type dog

her dad is dead but i do have a male that is that good, he is out of a litter mate to the gip
i guess that would make the male dog her nephew is that to close?

the question is how good is the father and grandfather???  then look at said dogs parents or get the info from the owners if the older dogs are dead...Make the analysis and breed the gyp to her dad or grand dad according to your analysis of the 2...