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« on: December 05, 2012, 12:49:02 pm » |
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HOG DOG TOURNAMENT TRAIL - 2013 Only THE BEST need apply. Find out more at www.hogdogtournamenttrail.com  
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Mike
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 02:01:43 pm » |
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What's the reasoning behind the no barr hog rule?
I believe most, if not all, of the participating contests allow barrs to be weighed in.
I also believe that by having this new rule, you'll be loosing a ton of support/participation.
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Van Dorn
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 02:06:39 pm » |
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You say only the Best need apply, do the best only catch boars and sows?
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 02:20:29 pm » |
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You say only the Best need apply, do the best only catch boars and sows?
Well, no, you're right BigE, I catch alot of shoats too.  Kidding!! Long as some of y'all keep doing how well you been doing, the rest of us need a juniors division!! I got me a hat with a propeller on it and I'm ready to hit the woods.  didnt notice that Mike, but thanks for pointing it out. I know where some real gnarly boars are right now, hoping they'll make it to spring. 
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 02:23:25 pm » |
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Josh, go ahead and order me a Coleman cooler and a buckle that says either "oh well, maybe next year" or " honorable mention "  They look great By the way!
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TShelly
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 02:32:57 pm » |
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Disappointing to see the NO Barrs .. say we have another hunt like last year and catch 4 Barrs between 250 & 400 #'s. Most people myself consider that the hunt of a lifetime for a hog hunter. To y'all it's just an asterisk*. Guess we weren't hog hunters that day. Just seems the competition is now biased and you arnt really looking for "The BEST"
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TexasJ
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 02:55:52 pm » |
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By any definition of the word, a Barr hog is a "Pre-caught hog". Tournaments that do not allow barrs are conducted on a basis of straight-up competition.
Not to say that Barr hogs don't have a place in tournaments. Because they do. Just in a category by themselves.
If you don't participate in a tournament because you don't feel like you can win if barrs aren't allowed, then feel free to hunt in a Barr allowed stringer tournament.
If you don't participate in a tournament because you don't feel like you can win because barrs are allowed, then hunt the HDTT.
Put these 2 groups of hunters in a pile and see which fills up first.
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TexasJ
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 03:04:15 pm » |
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I believe most, if not all, of the participating contests allow barrs to be weighed in.
Only 1 of the 5 participating tournaments allow barrs in the stringer. The other tournaments have side pots for barrs.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 03:05:21 pm » |
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I also believe that by having this new rule, you'll be loosing a ton of support/participation.
Couldn't be further from the truth.
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TexasJ
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 03:08:30 pm » |
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You say only the Best need apply, do the best only catch boars and sows?
That's right. The best still win regardless if barrs are allowed or not.
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TexasJ
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 03:10:56 pm » |
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You say only the Best need apply, do the best only catch boars and sows?
If you don't enter the trail because barrs aren't allowed.... Well that just means you can't win without them.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2012, 03:29:19 pm » |
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You say only the Best need apply, do the best only catch boars and sows?
If you don't enter the trail because barrs aren't allowed.... Well that just means you can't win without them. You are correct good sir! We won it last year without any Barrs  we can win it again. It's just good to get feedback from participants and gripe about something. In no way are we taking these rule changes personal. Just voicing our opinion from the hog hunters who still "work" the hogs. Josh runs an outstanding competition. The buckles are SWEET! I never wear buckles but I will wear this one around 
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2012, 03:43:40 pm » |
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You say only the Best need apply, do the best only catch boars and sows?
If you don't enter the trail because barrs aren't allowed.... Well that just means you can't win without them. You say only the Best need apply, do the best only catch boars and sows? If you don't enter the trail because barrs aren't allowed.... Well that just means you can't win without them. [/quote] I had to gripe, because I think if the tournament allows barrs then the trail should honor that tournaments rules, or pick a different tournament to include in the trail. As in the case of the Splendora tournament last year we would have had to haul separate hogs to turn in for the trail.
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2012, 04:01:20 pm » |
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[/quote] You are correct good sir! We won it last year without any Barrs  we can win it again. It's just good to get feedback from participants and gripe about something. In no way are we taking these rule changes personal. Just voicing our opinion from the hog hunters who still "work" the hogs. Josh runs an outstanding competition. The buckles are SWEET! I never wear buckles but I will wear this one around  [/quote] Well heck Tony, since you don't wear buckles anyway, why don't you just sit this year out and I'll come add some pale yella and red to the team. Lol  When you get a belly like mine the buckle is more a tool than a fashion. Hahaha
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2012, 04:52:53 pm » |
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I am not the best so I won't enter! I have always enjoyed catching a Barr hog as much as any other hog! The easiest hogs I have ever hunted were having their way in a cow feedlot. They were big, fat, and couldn't even outrun my soup hounds. So why not make it a rule that the hogs cannot have any grain in there system either. This would also eliminate any hunting deer corn feeders. Don't these type feeders give an unfair advantage on finding hogs? If say you had a game camera set up and knew when the hogs were coming in. Or even hogs on an oat or wheat field! Wouldn't these hogs be easier hunting than say a hog in the east tx piney woods surviving on pine nettles. I'm not a real hog hunted, and not trying to step on any toes, just a question?
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2012, 05:23:04 pm » |
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I am not the best so I won't enter! I have always enjoyed catching a Barr hog as much as any other hog! The easiest hogs I have ever hunted were having their way in a cow feedlot. They were big, fat, and couldn't even outrun my soup hounds. So why not make it a rule that the hogs cannot have any grain in there system either. This would also eliminate any hunting deer corn feeders. Don't these type feeders give an unfair advantage on finding hogs? If say you had a game camera set up and knew when the hogs were coming in. Or even hogs on an oat or wheat field! Wouldn't these hogs be easier hunting than say a hog in the east tx piney woods surviving on pine nettles. I'm not a real hog hunted, and not trying to step on any toes, just a question?
You're exactly right. I know for a fact that several contests are won each year by folks riding around a feed lot with a spotlight turning out on big hogs. I can only assume the ones that have issues with barr hogs, haven't been around many barr hogs? TDHA always allowed barrs when I was a BOD and all the years I hunted it. Is there a new rule not allowing them? Gator Country allowed them last year. I was there as a friend was the recipient of all the hogs weighed in. Is there a new rule this year? I know East Fork does as we won it last year... like Tony said, a once in a lifetime hunt catching four big barrs in a group.
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2012, 05:51:37 pm » |
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You're exactly right. I know for a fact that several contests are won each year by folks riding around a feed lot with a spotlight turning out on big hogs. Name me the tournaments that were won last year by feedlots in one column and then name the tournaments that were won last year who's stringer included a Barr. See which one is longer.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 05:56:42 pm » |
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I can only assume the ones that have issues with barr hogs, haven't been around many barr hogs? You know what they say about assuming. Not something I want to get into. But I can only assume the people with the biggest problem with "no barrs" are the ones who have them farmed out for a contest.
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2012, 06:03:07 pm » |
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TDHA always allowed barrs when I was a BOD and all the years I hunted it. Is there a new rule not allowing them? Gator Country allowed them last year. I was there as a friend was the recipient of all the hogs weighed in. Is there a new rule this year? I know East Fork does as we won it last year... like Tony said, a once in a lifetime hunt catching four big barrs in a group. 2013- Caldwell = no barrs in stringer Lexington = no barrs in stringer Splendora = yes barrs allowed Gator Country = no barrs in stringer TDHA = no barrs in stringer HDTT = no barrs in stringer
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2012, 06:08:29 pm » |
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I can only assume the ones that have issues with barr hogs, haven't been around many barr hogs? You know what they say about assuming. Not something I want to get into. But I can only assume the people with the biggest problem with "no barrs" are the ones who have them farmed out for a contest. LOL what a joke! Come track hunt 20k acres of pine plantation, youpon thickets and try and briar patches to catch these "Farmed" out Barrs!!
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