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Let me refrase what im getting At about having another competition than tdha. If the barrs do not count then the Barr hunters need to find competition that allow them. Witch separates us a one. That I guess,is my point. When typing it sounds alittle harsh than if you were talking to me on the phone. Ya'll could see im not trying to nbe an ass. Im trying to keep us from being separated.
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Hog hunting can start more crap than anything I have ever seen!(HDLCrystal)
Remember John Wayne was just an actor the real cowboys is who he looked up to..........
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OK, I've tried to read all the post and I'm trying to be open minded about this topic. It seems as though hairs are being split here. I understand that in many areas the barring of hogs is taboo and carries many repercussions for any caught practicing the act. However, that rule does not stand for all nor should it penalize those of us who have access to these animals. Simply put a hog is a hog is a hog. The absence of testicles should not make a barr any less acceptable than a boar or sow; my dogs work just as hard to find and catch them, and they still add lots of pounds of meat to these competitions that feed the hungry which is one of our main goals at the end of the day.
I honestly haven't seen a VALID argument for the removal of barrs from the competition. All I really see so far are complaints that not all have access to the added weight a barr may or may not offer to their stringer. For ,me this simply is not a persuasive enough argument to decide that removing barrs from competitions is worth while. To do so would be the equivalent of Bassmasters refusing all female bass from weigh-in because they may have eggs in them which adds unfair weight to a fisherman's total.
If there are those who feel barrs are that unfair to the competitions, then my suggestion is this, set a separate category for the barrs and let those of us who have access to them compete with one another at least.
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I'm also sticking to my guns and demanding that no listed hogs be allowed for weigh in on the stringer and all spotted hogs get 5lbs deducted.
Everybody knows that anyone who brings in a listed hog obviously bred a feral to a domestic and put them in a "honey hole" that and we don't catch hardly any listed hogs where I'm from so I think that my demand to have them not count is valid and I demand to be heard!!!
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I'm also sticking to my guns and demanding that no listed hogs be allowed for weigh in on the stringer and all spotted hogs get 5lbs deducted.
Everybody knows that anyone who brings in a listed hog obviously bred a feral to a domestic and put them in a "honey hole" that and we don't catch hardly any listed hogs where I'm from so I think that my demand to have them not count is valid and I demand to be heard!!!
I also think that hunting places with feeders make it unfair for me... Those hogs are being baited in, and they know exactly where the hogs will be... I have to hunt "wild" hogs that have to travel and forage for their food, not lay 100 yards from a feeder getting fat... Point being, your never going to please everyone, and if the barrs are banned, it will just be something else next year.... More than likely, the team with the best places to hunt with the most hogs has the best shot at winning, even if they don't have the best dogs.... You can bring the best dogs and hunt my spots for the tournaments, and I guarantee you will NOT win!!! |
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I'm also sticking to my guns and demanding that no listed hogs be allowed for weigh in on the stringer and all spotted hogs get 5lbs deducted.
Everybody knows that anyone who brings in a listed hog obviously bred a feral to a domestic and put them in a "honey hole" that and we don't catch hardly any listed hogs where I'm from so I think that my demand to have them not count is valid and I demand to be heard!!!
I also think that hunting places with feeders make it unfair for me... Those hogs are being baited in, and they know exactly where the hogs will be... I have to hunt "wild" hogs that have to travel and forage for their food, not lay 100 yards from a feeder getting fat... Point being, your never going to please everyone, and if the barrs are banned, it will just be something else next year.... More than likely, the team with the best places to hunt with the most hogs has the best shot at winning, even if they don't have the best dogs.... You can bring the best dogs and hunt my spots for the tournaments, and I guarantee you will NOT win!!! Amen! Ban the barrs this year, and next year it will be feedyards, feeders, and blooded hogs. This isn't soccer.... it's hog dogging. |
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It's hog hunting, not rocket science or brain surgery. You do not need a bunch of rules and regulations. Over regulating it will hurt it more than under regulating it. You can see what over regulating by the Govt. has done to manufacturing businesses in the real world.
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A scared dog dont get no meat !
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Just make it simple and do what's right for the events and the charities they provide to and money they raise for the organizations that fight for our rights. Even though I am in Louisiana, Texas is out neighbor and what happens there will certainly effect us and vice versa. I go to these hunts to win, but I am satisfied with the fact that we are supporting a great cause. I also need to remind you folks that have never put on a hunt or any type of dog event that this is a very stressful process and the more these folks that put these things on see threads like this then they may just decide to not do it at all. It is impossible to make everyone happy, but the polygraph is the best way to enforce the rules and keep the comp fair as possible.
Just keep the Barrs in the rules and lets have a great tournament season this year. If you don't have Barrs where you hunt then try to go after one of the other categories or find places where there are Barrs. Last comp I hunted with my buddies in Buffalo, Tx. We didn't bait, scout or catch any Barrs and we caught 28 hogs and brought in 26 to weigh in. Of course we passed polygraph and folks were saying we cheated because some of the hogs just weren't completely torn up or didn't have teeth marks on their ears. They never thought that I may use jaw dogs or that the bulldogs were so worn out that they just were holding on hard enough to get the job done and not snatching and shaking like a fresh bulldog would. This type of behavior is unsportsmanlike and makes it not an enjoyable win for the team and makes things hard for the host, so I strongly urge those who participate to except the results of the polygraph and not give any grief to the host or winners.
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"You lose a lot of money chasing hogs and women, but never lose women chasing money."
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Imo the people complaining about barrs are just jealous bc they dont have the big hogs and/or dogs to compete with. At the end of the day if they ban barrs and they still dont win they will just blame it on something else
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Heck take 10lbs. off every 100lbs. on a barr if yall are worried that they get to BIG but just dont say NO barrs. Let come to some kind of comprise.
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A hog is a hog u should allow them, But if ur gonna make a rule about it dont make it where they r completely Banned jus make it to where u can only have so many on ur stringer. Like a stringer of 5 u can only consist of 2r3 Barrs Biggers stringers would allow more Barrs of course ... u may chase a hog all night and end up Bein a Barr and now you've waisted half the tournament chasing a hog that dont even count..
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I gotta pack'a pigs Bayed tight in'a Bryar patch!! -945 BOAR BUSTERS-
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Go ahead and ban barrs. Then give a green ribbon to all those that enter and call everyone a winner! That evens the playing field! Isn't that the politely correct way to do things in our soft society, so we will only have winners for participating and have no losers!! I am sure glad there are a few who will still stand up for what they believe!
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Go ahead and ban barrs. Then give a green ribbon to all those that enter and call everyone a winner! That evens the playing field! Isn't that the politely correct way to do things in our soft society, so we will only have winners for participating and have no losers!! I am sure glad there are a few who will still stand up for what they believe!
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"You lose a lot of money chasing hogs and women, but never lose women chasing money."
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Go ahead and ban barrs. Then give a green ribbon to all those that enter and call everyone a winner! That evens the playing field! Isn't that the politely correct way to do things in our soft society, so we will only have winners for participating and have no losers!! I am sure glad there are a few who will still stand up for what they believe!
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I was going to paint a Barr hog on my picket sign for the strike but the hog hunting union said no Barr pictures allowed  |
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Hog hunting can start more crap than anything I have ever seen!(HDLCrystal)
Remember John Wayne was just an actor the real cowboys is who he looked up to..........
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Go ahead and ban barrs. Then give a green ribbon to all those that enter and call everyone a winner! That evens the playing field! Isn't that the politely correct way to do things in our soft society, so we will only have winners for participating and have no losers!! I am sure glad there are a few who will still stand up for what they believe!
Jody, green ribbons are for fifth place. The white ones are for participation ! Thanks for point that out Lance! That is my point! Who gives a $hit if they are green, or white! If one desires to compete, they should be chasing blue or red! Not white, green, pink, orange. Some win some will loose that's life.... It's not white or green... |
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what so many are not understanding (and before you come back at me i am on your side of allowing barr hogs in some manner in our hunt and i am BOD of TDHA) is so many people think Green is not white. to many a cut pig is an altered pig and in many minds not a natural wild animal. Some say they have proven they don't run as far or they don't care to fight or you can patteren them better and some say exact opposite. Some say east texas is harder to hunt some say south, blah blah blah. It's all an opinion that everyone is entitled too. At the end of the day its an opinion that everyone is entitled to. There is so many things going on in the world in regards to this that begs the question of what is natural and what is not. Cloning is one of them. We as humans are changing nature to satisfy our needs. I am not for barring animals and i am not against people who barr animals. it's your (as of now) God given right to do so, and its your (as of now) God given right to hunt hogs with dogs. Will that change soon? who knows its possible. We are going to do whatever we can to COMPROMISE, and make as many people happy as we can for the TDHA hunt. If you think it is easy to sit on a TDHA's board or any board for that matter PLEASE run for office next year. |
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Boarwild, thank you for all you and the rest of the board do to help us and for protecting our rights. Your job which is voluntary and uncompensated is not one I would want. I'm sure it is capable of giving a person a few more gray hairs.
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Thanks again Boarwild as I called the animal health commission this morning he said it is not illegal to release hogs on the place they have been cut. It is to haul the hog from one destination to another and release them without being tested I think this should bring up a good point nothing is illegal about a Barr. As i told him the reason for asking the question he had a good point.
First it helps feed the hungry and barrs are more food and better.
Next The state likes the hogs removed so by the tdha saying no barrs or whatever contest will mean the barrs will more than likely be released back into the wild if not needed at the time. Those were his points of views and I thought they were good ones.
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Hog hunting can start more crap than anything I have ever seen!(HDLCrystal)
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My question is now after reading all the posts does it take a better dog to catch barrs because I keep reading in these post saying that people don't have the dogs to catch barrs. Just curious because I have been hunting with dogs since I was a kid and I nor anyone else I know that hunts have certain dogs for boars,sows, or barrs I thought a hog dog would run any hog
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My question is now after reading all the posts does it take a better dog to catch barrs because I keep reading in these post saying that people don't have the dogs to catch barrs. Just curious because I have been hunting with dogs since I was a kid and I nor anyone else I know that hunts have certain dogs for boars,sows, or barrs I thought a hog dog would run any hog
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