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« Reply #80 on: December 11, 2012, 06:32:59 pm » |
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cward i didnt mean you called me stupid you never said that and we talked hunting styles and you taught me something that day and i thank you, i meant when it comes to the barring hogs and releasing them im stupid cause nobody has showed me how or told me why they really do it, the guys i hunt with catch ty and sale thats how i was taught, but sorry i was not saying u called me stupid or anything like that , see me being stupid,lol excuse me if i dont sound right i just got out of surgerie today, cward hope we still can be friends dont mean anything and im getting out of this subject cause im way out of the barr deal
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« Reply #81 on: December 11, 2012, 08:26:51 pm » |
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I think I spelled it out pretty cut and dry. Once they have been altered then they are not a truly wild animal anymore. Their behavior changes to reflect that of a more domesticated animal, like steers. Therefore you are gathering livestock not hunting technically speaking, but that is only my opinion and I certainly do not want great dog men and hunters to not enter a competition that benefits everyone because of the rule of "No Barr Hogs" especially since it is a legal practice. Now here in Louisiana I am going to push for only 1 barr per 5 hogs to be allowed if any for hunting comps because it is illegal and unethical here to do so and we certainly don't want to end up with the hog problems Texas has!;)
I'm not questioning what your opinion is, you have made it clear what you think. I couldn't disagree more but that arument is for another discussion. You stated that you thought the tournaments were put on to "help control the hog population" by turning in barrs would we not be accomplishing this? Also, we would be participating in the competition and therefore helping raise money for great causes. and lastly we would be removing these wild hogs with dogs so would we not be promoting hunting with dogs?
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« Reply #82 on: December 11, 2012, 08:55:56 pm » |
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Boarwild you ask for input, but you have made it clear you only want input from comp hunters.
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« Reply #83 on: December 11, 2012, 09:22:10 pm » |
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Barring hogs is a regional practice. Its not done everywhere in the state some folks think its a great idea and others not so much.
With that in mind, I would think that a contest, that will draw teams from areas that contain barred hogs, should allow barrs in the stringer.
The team really can't help it if they catch a barr. One team may barr hogs on a consistent basis and another team might never do it, but they both could catch one. That is what levels the playing field along with a polygraph to ensure that ANY hog, barr, boar, or sow was not: moved, kept, or held in less than a free range condition for the contest.
Each contest has a set of rules. Each set of rules is different based on the location and how the contest is run. I don't see a problem with one contest allowing barrs and another contest not allowing them. Its the same as some of the other rules being different.
I am a big supporter of the HDTT, Josh has come up with a great idea and has really done a great job setting it up. I hope maybe that he will consider allowing each contest to make the decision on the barrs. Some will have them some will not. The three hog stringer can be the constant through out the separate contests.
We, as hunters and dog-men need to work well together and support each other. We need to support the contests and support the groups that are putting them on.
I will support Josh and the HDTT what ever he descides to do, I am just offering my thoughts.
Thanks, Paul T
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« Reply #84 on: December 11, 2012, 09:54:29 pm » |
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I personally think barrs should be allowed. Barrs are in our hunting area so we hunt them. If they ban barrs then they need to ban them big toothy rock eating Russian boars from the hill country because we dont have those in our piney woods and it just aint fair.
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« Reply #85 on: December 11, 2012, 10:10:00 pm » |
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I say let em weigh in barrs! I have a feeling the only folks complaining about barr hogs at these contest are the ones that aint catching them.  The best hog hunters Ive ever known barr hogs and they do it for good reason! Good eating! That simple. The odd thing is that they don't have hog problems either. Lots of days they have to ride far and wide to pick up a track in their country. Go figure. jhy.......THANKS!!!! Really! Your opinion gave me one of the best belly laughs Ive had in a long time! Keep em coming buddy! Fatboy......... If you are serving boar hog at your hog roast please let me know. I will pack a sack lunch!  Long before hunting hogs was such a noble cause, hog hunters barred hogs for better table fare and to get the most out of their efforts. I suspect the practice will be around longer than hog hunting contest and pro wrestling. Paul T. I couldnt agree with you more that barring hogs is a regional practice. You folks that aint in a position to barr your hogs need to get a handle on your hog population. I have a feeling its getting out of hand!
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« Reply #87 on: December 11, 2012, 10:27:19 pm » |
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And the ninja is alive. He has spoke don't be ninja nobody that don't need to be ninja. Boy im telling you the phone calls and text im getting over this is crazy. Some of these boys are ready to fight.lol they are mad there again if these rules stand they are separating us as one. I think its good advertising for the tdha if nothing else cause people are asking who are making these rules. Im explaining to them that tears of trails has made his rule and stands behind it. That the tdha has not made the ruling but would like to know where the people stand. The polls are showing it as of now. Thanks for jumping in this race boarninja. We sure needed your opinion as I respect it highly
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« Reply #88 on: December 11, 2012, 10:51:56 pm » |
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Much appreciated even if not deserved Chance. Work has kept my internet hog hunting in hiatus but I still think about it and have a peek at the board from time to time. I expected to see folks still threatening to track down and whip hell out of the infamous dog trader Caude Ard but discrimination of a wise ole barr hogs gets me rialled.  I would tell you a story or two about some legendary barr hogs thats give me and my dogs the slip many a time but I would have to tell you the story about a hog hunter with better dogs that ended up catching them! lol. Livestock my arse! They make up in in brains what they may ( or may not ) lack in fight! But thats just my humble opinion. How do I change my name to BarrNinja Mike?
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« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2012, 10:58:35 pm » |
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Barrninja I like it.!!! Whats funny is out of all the bitching gripping we have done I think that Boarwild is the only one listening from the tdha. Thank Boarwild for your care and concerns. I don't know how to guide the rest of the tdha board members over to see what is going on and how many toes they are stepping on to change this rule. I know all that are speaking have been supporters. Even the Barrninja. Hey Allen that saved in my spell check I like it.lol
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« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2012, 11:01:53 pm » |
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I promised to listen and yes here I am up later then I ever am still watching and reading and typing. All I ask is give us some time. I am trying to bring all I can as fast as I can to the table.
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« Reply #91 on: December 11, 2012, 11:03:47 pm » |
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On top of that I'm not a good Internet hog hunter. Oh heck what am I saying I'm not a good hog hunter at all.
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« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2012, 11:16:12 pm » |
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Cward,
The last dead hunt had I think around 70 teams, what do you think the percentage was of those teams that were hunting Barrs?
Anthony
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« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2012, 11:20:37 pm » |
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I have looked at/inspected every hog weighed in at the TDHA contest for the last 4 years. Very few barrs come through the weigh-in. Only a hand full every year. Its a non issue.
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« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2012, 11:23:48 pm » |
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I have looked at/inspected every hog weighed in at the TDHA contest for the last 4 years. Very few barrs come through the weigh-in. Only a hand full every year. Its a non issue.
That's exactly right. Don't ban em and don't allow a full stringer of them. Compromise.
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« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2012, 11:32:07 pm » |
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Cward,
The last dead hunt had I think around 70 teams, what do you think the percentage was of those teams that were hunting Barrs?
Anthony
I think everyone who puts a dog on the ground could catch a Barr and if they do after he wrecks there dogs or they spend a half a day trying to get him caught they would be pissed if he didn't count. The place we hunted last year no one works hogs in there we tagged in one Barr that ran over a mile we got all the buggies stuck and he cut one of my dogs down out of commission. I think he weighed255 not a huge hog but after all that work he atleast counted.
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« Reply #96 on: December 11, 2012, 11:38:22 pm » |
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Alan,
I fixed it for you. Barrninja
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« Reply #97 on: December 11, 2012, 11:38:37 pm » |
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I have looked at/inspected every hog weighed in at the TDHA contest for the last 4 years. Very few barrs come through the weigh-in. Only a hand full every year. Its a non issue.
Our point exactly, it's a NON ISSUE, so don't change the rules this year to exclude barrs! A hog, is a hog, is a hog!
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« Reply #98 on: December 11, 2012, 11:44:33 pm » |
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Dang. All this drama has induced me to re catch all the Barrs we have cut and marked through the years. I am currently sewing the notches back together in their ears and retrofitting them with a new set of titanium balls. Guess this piece of tasty Barr sausage I am enjoying tonight with hot yeast biscuits and homeade ribbon cane syrup will get a man to thinking bout chewing a lil more rank Boar bacon in the future. Think I will just keep making nasty ole Bo hogs into tasty swine sweets! If it comes down to it. You boyz can keep them tournaments. Lol  Peace out Home Skillets! 
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« Reply #99 on: December 11, 2012, 11:57:57 pm » |
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But I have one more question. You hunt an area that you have barred a lot of hogs in and you know that is one that you have caught before or say all of them you have caught before and they ask if you used any previously caught hogs. Do they count as previously caught hogs? I know this is the grey area and has been covered mostl likely but I woulld like an official word on this one so I can explain it to my folks.
Ninja,
I try my darndest to help us look noble, but there is always some damn fool that will mess it up!:)
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