******POLL*******Barrs: TDHA Hunting Contest

[UNDERDOG]

What I don't get is most contest rules say you can't turn in a hog that has been caught before. Well a Barr hog has been caught before , RIGHT???

Who's to say or know if a boar or sow was not previously caught by someone without your knowledge..... as in the boar or sow you catch was caught when 75-100's and turned back loose cause of size and now you catch it at 300#'s,that's a previously caught hog as well correct? It's just not marked to know it.

[collars and cutters kennels]

That is correct!! You don't know if it has or has not been caught BUT a Barr hog pretty much says it has been caught before. Hey jack I'm just going by the rules.. I like to do the contest for the fun of it and meet new people! Benefit hunts are good. I'm not much on winning just a good time. HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY

[BA-IV]

That is correct!! You don't know if it has or has not been caught BUT a Barr hog pretty much says it has been caught before. Hey jack I'm just going by the rules.. I like to do the contest for the fun of it and meet new people! Benefit hunts are good. I'm not much on winning just a good time. HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY

So why worry about the Barr hogs if you're in it for the fun.

[collars and cutters kennels]

Because the rules in most contest state ...... No caught hogs.. Hey I'm just going by the rules. I don't make the rules...if their is a Barr hog stringer then I would hope to catch Barr hogs.. Like I said I'm in it for the fun where I hunt I don't catch and release but that is just me...

[cward]

CandC you don't understand what we do nor our country. It separates us from the rest. I'm so burnt on this subject it has pissed me off to the point of me stepping out of my character. I catch hogs and a barrs is a hog. Every bit of the pork you buy out of the stores is barrs or sows so  maybe we should not allow boars cause they don't sale boar meat in the stores.. I mean we can go on all day with why or why not.

[Miller Lite]

What I don't get is most contest rules say you can't turn in a hog that has been caught before. Well a Barr hog has been caught before , RIGHT???

Who's to say or know if a boar or sow was not previously caught by someone without your knowledge..... as in the boar or sow you catch was caught when 75-100's and turned back loose cause of size and now you catch it at 300#'s,that's a previously caught hog as well correct? It's just not marked to know it.

x2 i caught a hog that had no ears an no tail an was still a boar ... he was hell to catch but we got him tied an he was either trapped/caught

[Coonasscurr]

wow is really all i can say guess i better start TRYING to teach my dogs not to bay barr hogs lol. IF IT HAS HAIR TURN IT IN ITS HOG HUNTING

[cward]

Coonasscur did you vote in the poles. You are a Barr Hunter so make sire you vote.

[Coonasscurr]

C WARD yes i voted barrs barrs barrs if it has hair turn it in the comp

[collars and cutters kennels]

No one is saying a Barr hog is not a hog just saying if is a hog that has been caught before..... And for the hog u caught with no ears that is just saying your dogs are better than the one who TRIED to catch that hog before you did.  Their is no proof that hog was caught before but a Barr hog pretty much tells u it has been caught and released.  Just saying... I'm not against Barr hogs I just think a contest their should be a Barr pot !! That will solve all this ...

[Lance]

No one is saying a Barr hog is not a hog just saying if is a hog that has been caught before..... And for the hog u caught with no ears that is just saying your dogs are better than the one who TRIED to catch that hog before you did.  Their is no proof that hog was caught before but a Barr hog pretty much tells u it has been caught and released.  Just saying... I'm not against Barr hogs I just think a contest their should be a Barr pot !! That will solve all this ...

I think it is obvious that a side pot for barrs will solve nothing. There are 4 threads with several pages of post and a poll to prove it.

[Doggie]

Chance I would not and do not have an issue with Barr hogs in any competition. You still have to find it bay it and catch it. I think there have been way bigger boars brought into the competitions over the years that were caught at feed lots by groups spotlighting and dumping on big boars.  So, if it is an unfair advantage to catch a Barr then feed lot hogs should not be allowed either.  That way everyone would be on an even playing field not really.  I have hunted in and been involved in a contest or two and there is no way to even the playing field for everyone involved period unless the contest was to provide each team with exactly same amount of land. Each individual team had to use the same amount of dogs and each team had the exact same distance to travel to and from the contest. Oh yeah and each track of land must have the same amount of hogs that weigh the same.  Just will never happen. When we as hunters hunt a contest, it is for fun and pride and anyone can have a great weekend and win.  Just my opinion take it as you will.

[cward]

Thanks doggie for coming and posting. I know you been a member on here since the beginning with very few post. But when you post you always post for the good. THANKS.

[collars and cutters kennels]

That's right fun and pride!!!! Well put.....

[Caney Creek Hog Doggers]

Not trying to stir anything up, just a few things caught my attention. A couple post said, how is it fair to go hunting and chase a Barr all night and get dogs cut up if a Barr is not excepted. Here's my thought, I've never caught a Barr simply because we don't cut and turn loose so I can't be upset by that rule, however I can be upset when I hunt hard just like everyone else and my dogs get cut on a BOAR that hasn't been caught before then get beat by BARRS when the rules say no previous caught hogs. I don't consider it to be cheating cutting hogs then wait til they get big then hunt them again, but it's an advantage. Barrs will get bigger faster than boars and tend not to roam like a dominant boar. So placing BARRS in an area to make a big honey hole just isn't true hunting in my book. It may be a tradition or an advantage to others but this year the rules simply say no BARRS it's clearly laid out. This is a hunting competition which means go out,catch hogs, enjoy the woods and your dogs. Do your best to follow all rules and the main thing is have fun. Just cause it's a competition doesn't mean go find a way to bend the rules. In my mind I don't care if I win or not, it means more to me to catch hogs with my dogs that I know hasn't been caught before, then going out to a spot already knowing what's there. It's a rule this year so deal with it, if all your spot consist of just BARRS and you feel like you have no chance to catch a boar then it's pretty simple. Don't enter this competition, there's no sense creating a problem, the rule is what it is this year. Good luck to all, hope everybody has good hunting and most importantly stays safe.

[Miller Lite]

So pretty much if you were huntin where you dont barr any hogs an by some chance you catch 3 barrs that are all over 250lbs your gunna still say its simple dont turn the hogs in .... i highly doubt it
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[shsu11]

Not trying to stir anything up, just a few things caught my attention. A couple post said, how is it fair to go hunting and chase a Barr all night and get dogs cut up if a Barr is not excepted. Here's my thought, I've never caught a Barr simply because we don't cut and turn loose so I can't be upset by that rule, however I can be upset when I hunt hard just like everyone else and my dogs get cut on a BOAR that hasn't been caught before then get beat by BARRS when the rules say no previous caught hogs. I don't consider it to be cheating cutting hogs then wait til they get big then hunt them again, but it's an advantage. Barrs will get bigger faster than boars and tend not to roam like a dominant boar. So placing BARRS in an area to make a big honey hole just isn't true hunting in my book. It may be a tradition or an advantage to others but this year the rules simply say no BARRS it's clearly laid out. This is a hunting competition which means go out,catch hogs, enjoy the woods and your dogs. Do your best to follow all rules and the main thing is have fun. Just cause it's a competition doesn't mean go find a way to bend the rules. In my mind I don't care if I win or not, it means more to me to catch hogs with my dogs that I know hasn't been caught before, then going out to a spot already knowing what's there. It's a rule this year so deal with it, if all your spot consist of just BARRS and you feel like you have no chance to catch a boar then it's pretty simple. Don't enter this competition, there's no sense creating a problem, the rule is what it is this year. Good luck to all, hope everybody has good hunting and most importantly stays safe.

So barrs tend to not roam like a dominant boar? You know this to be fact? Because I can tell you its 100% false! I'll give you two examples. Earlier this year we were hunting a property and caught a barr. It was not a barr I had cut but i did recognize the ear mark. I called the guy who had cut him and he said the closest he had cut one from that property was around 7 miles away. Second example, this deer season we have 3 game cams up on a property that i live next to. We have 3 different BOARS all over 200#  coming to the same feeders like clock work. On this same property I have cut well over 20 barrs in the last year. Guess how many we have caught or even seen on camera....0!!

We are not complaining about the new rule because our places only have barrs or because we have been stock piling barrs on one property just for tournament sake. We are complaining because you never know where you are going to catch a barr and it would be a shame to waste even 5 minutes catching a barr when you cannot count it.

Another point I would like to make is, I believe the rule of no "previously caught" hogs is refering to hogs caught prior to tournament hours and holding them until tournement weigh in. Not hogs released back into the wild and caught at a much later date.

[charles]

No one is saying a Barr hog is not a hog just saying if is a hog that has been caught before..... And for the hog u caught with no ears that is just saying your dogs are better than the one who TRIED to catch that hog before you did.  Their is no proof that hog was caught before but a Barr hog pretty much tells u it has been caught and released.  Just saying... I'm not against Barr hogs I just think a contest their should be a Barr pot !! That will solve all this ...

if you think for an instant that the hog caught with NO ears or a tail wasnt caught at 1 point in time, then your about as lost in smarts as a goose in a hale storm. if it cant be prooven the hog was caught, then how can you prove that a barr was dog/trap caught and then turned loose? iv got a dog that will barr a boar or give a sow a historectomy. in your line of thinking of proof, then the hog was nvr caught, just an attempt of being caught. what about boars born in a pen by a caught sow, then barred at a young age nd either got out, or turned loose? if you wanna play samantics, the barr was nvr caught by any means, but was born in captivity.

[collars and cutters kennels]

COLLARS AND CUTTERS,

This is the second time I have edited your posts.   I won't edit it again.

[txhogsanddogs]

I have never hunted a tournament (i would like to) but i dont understand what all the fuss is with not allowing them. I mean your dogs still have to find it bay it and catch it! I mean its not always a cakewalk to catch em. Its a hog hunting tournament and barrs are still hogs last time i checked.

GO get your $400 to enter and hunt with a broken ankel get dogs cut down catch 13 hogs anyways and way in a good stringer and get 11th place with no barr which they aren't even in my area at all  14 to 15 years of running dogs and never seen or caught one...  After saying that I'm not on either side I'm fortunate enough to not be concerned with the money but i do want my dogs to be competive when i do enter.  Thats why in the past year i havent sold a hog is to be competitive..  I have turn allot back loose to put on the weight i have seen in results of doing this. 

Another thing why is everyone keep talking about and preaching that these barrs are sooooo good to eat is why we do it??  I call BS on that, we catch and release for a sport bottom line...  DOn't try to fool me, ive been catching and releasing for years but didn't start barring till this year...  Didn't ever see the point till i started enentering these hunts last year.  I catch and do guided hunts more ofter than most and I'm not an enternet hog dogger...  I don't understand everyone for bars speaking of the taste...  Get you a 100 pound sow and throw her on the smoker or in a hole..  We are doing it for the money and the sport.. 

Good luck to everyone this season cause my protien feed BOARS are going to break the scale!