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« on: December 12, 2012, 09:43:10 pm »

I walk hunt and have a mastiff x cur Dane he's no strike by any means but have struck a hog with him every time I've taken him. He's a great short range dog but catches every time. I like him bcuz he'll hunt no further then 150 yards away and since I walk hunt its perfect for what I do. However I don't like how he catches are there any particular breeds that are hot nosed and really good short ranges? Comment your thoughts pictures and experience.
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2012, 09:44:41 pm »

95% of dogs are short ranged.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2012, 10:05:44 pm »

95% of dogs are short ranged.

Your saying 95% of dogs won't range out more than 150 yards in search of a track?
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2012, 10:06:18 pm »

I walk hunt and have a mastiff x cur Dane he's no strike by any means but have struck a hog with him every time I've taken him. He's a great short range dog but catches every time. I like him bcuz he'll hunt no further then 150 yards away and since I walk hunt its perfect for what I do. However I don't like how he catches are there any particular breeds that are hot nosed and really good short ranges? Comment your thoughts pictures and experience.
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get you a dachsund they dont range out to fast  Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2012, 10:11:14 pm »

95% of dogs are short ranged.

Your saying 95% of dogs won't range out more than 150 yards in search of a track?

   150 is under your feet to me.  Short range to me is around 300 to 400 yards. The longer I hunt the more I see that a hog dog is rare.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2012, 10:13:44 pm »

95% of dogs are short ranged.

Your saying 95% of dogs won't range out more than 150 yards in search of a track?

I would probably agree with this, I might give alil more credit.  I'd say 95% won't go over 300 yds in NO sign and actually look for it.  Most people are so worried about catching hogs, they never take the time to learn their dogs and what they're doing.

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2012, 10:37:34 pm »

He stays hunting under 150 yards unless he's on a track or down wind. I have to disagree with the 95 percent of dogs are short range. Nothing personal but if u get any line of dog that's worth two scents your going to have dogs that will range out fairly far. It also in my mind depends on the dogs prey drive if a dog has a great nose but has little interest then it doesn't matter but if u have a dog that has a high prey drive then they'll range out further even without that good of a nose and in my mind that's how the jagds have earned their reputation.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 01:02:34 am »

I've seen very few dogs that "hunt" further than distances of 250yards...even hounds I've hunted with don't range that far. You van go with almost any breed and get a short ranged dog.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2012, 07:12:39 am »

I walk hunt and have a mastiff x cur Dane he's no strike by any means but have struck a hog with him every time I've taken him. He's a great short range dog but catches every time. I like him bcuz he'll hunt no further then 150 yards away and since I walk hunt its perfect for what I do. However I don't like how he catches are there any particular breeds that are hot nosed and really good short ranges? Comment your thoughts pictures and experience.
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2012, 07:37:33 am »

I walk hunt and have a mastiff x cur Dane he's no strike by any means but have struck a hog with him every time I've taken him. He's a great short range dog but catches every time. I like him bcuz he'll hunt no further then 150 yards away and since I walk hunt its perfect for what I do. However I don't like how he catches are there any particular breeds that are hot nosed and really good short ranges? Comment your thoughts pictures and experience.
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You can make most dogs shorter range just by starting them out walk hunting as a pup.
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2012, 07:38:45 am »

I've seen very few dogs that "hunt" further than distances of 250yards...even hounds I've hunted with don't range that far. You van go with almost any breed and get a short ranged dog.

The only time I see dogs that stay 250 and under is hunt with yall or monty
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2012, 07:53:52 am »

I've seen very few dogs that "hunt" further than distances of 250yards...even hounds I've hunted with don't range that far. You van go with almost any breed and get a short ranged dog.

The only time I see dogs that stay 250 and under is hunt with yall or monty

Any body that road hunts or hood hunts dogs are going to be shorter hunting range dogs , there's no need for a dog to hunt 1,000 yards deep then strike an run anothe mile might as well strike it close , as long as they put hog at the end don't matter to me if they huntingibg 50 yards or 200 as long as they actively hunting ,
I have found a dog that hunts with you is alot Easyer to handle if you get on that just leaves out on a bee line headed north an don't strike nothing for .5 mile an still running flat out hunting that's not good for me ,
Alot of those dogs run past beded down hogs that been there for awhile
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2012, 07:56:09 am »

Stokely...you must be hunting with the other 5% then.....my dogs hunt around  150-400 depending on which dog and how big place is. That's how far they "hunt" , if they hit track the're gone just like most dogs. I would love to see more tater type dogs.
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2012, 08:13:56 am »

Nothing personal but if u get any line of dog that's worth two scents your going to have dogs that will range out fairly far. It also in my mind depends on the dogs prey drive if a dog has a great nose but has little interest then it doesn't matter but if u have a dog that has a high prey drive then they'll range out further even without that good of a nose and in my mind that's how the jagds have earned their reputation.

You must have never seen a dog really hunt short range I mean actively hunting for a track just not leavening out till he hits one , doesn't matter about the nose on the dog , I got a hound that hunts 150 to 200 but he hits 250 or 300 go ahead an start getting ready cus he bout to put a hog at the end , might be at 400 yards or might be 2 or3 miles
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2012, 08:19:08 am »

Boys range is a funny thing it's a Blessing and sometimes a Curse be careful what you ask for, You just might get it!! TXSteve I believe everybody is always trying to evolve and perfect their packs. I always wanted a drop the tailgate burn the woods up type of dog, And boy did I get one but with the limited country around our parts it's sometimes hard to get Him out, and everbody thats hunted with Leon and Me can vouch our Tator Pup Freak will get clean out of the country if need be and roll till you catch every hog in the group he  strikes. I know alot of you guys have the same kind of dog and it's amazing. The way you know You have this type of dog is when your hunting buddies try and catch him before they do the hog on the fifth bay after multiple miles of Hog catching. After all that being said Guys try to set your pack up to Your style and the land you have available to hunt. We have 2 totally different Packs around my house we have the 400 acre pack and the no less than 2000 acre pack and they work well for us. It all comes down to knowing your pack and trying to set them all up for sucess. Hell boys thats the fun part of this Chess Match we call HOG HUNTING WITH DOGS. Sorry I was so long winded I love this stuff!!
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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2012, 08:29:26 am »

It can depend on how the dogs you start your pups with hunt.
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2012, 08:32:57 am »

It can be fairly easy (sometimes people even do it unknowingly) to take a dog bred with a lot of go and condition him to hunt close.

However, It's next to impossible to take a dog bred without a lot of go and make him hunt deep.
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2012, 09:31:33 am »

I've seen very few dogs that "hunt" further than distances of 250yards...even hounds I've hunted with don't range that far. You van go with almost any breed and get a short ranged dog.

The only time I see dogs that stay 250 and under is hunt with yall or monty

Any body that road hunts or hood hunts dogs are going to be shorter hunting range dogs , there's no need for a dog to hunt 1,000 yards deep then strike an run anothe mile might as well strike it close , as long as they put hog at the end don't matter to me if they huntingibg 50 yards or 200 as long as they actively hunting ,
I have found a dog that hunts with you is alot Easyer to handle if you get on that just leaves out on a bee line headed north an don't strike nothing for .5 mile an still running flat out hunting that's not good for me ,
Alot of those dogs run past beded down hogs that been there for awhile

Hey Jo you know my dogs, they're short to medium range typically and I agree with you but I think it all goes back to hunting style.
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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2012, 09:33:26 am »

Stokely...you must be hunting with the other 5% then.....my dogs hunt around  150-400 depending on which dog and how big place is. That's how far they "hunt" , if they hit track the're gone just like most dogs. I would love to see more tater type dogs.

They're a whole lot of fun when you have the property to hunt them.  If you don't they can turn into a pain in the butt in a hurry.
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2012, 11:31:34 am »

When I was hunting I rather have a dog that stayed busy in the headlights or just a tad further and find hogs on a regular basis then one that took off like its tail was on fire before it started hunting. I have seen it many times where the dogs that took off several hundred yards or more before they started hunting were out struck by the dogs that hunted in closer but stayed busy. There was many a time the "long range dog" was bayed up over a mile away once he found and bayed up a hog and we caught hogs with the "short range" dogs going to them. There were even times we had to track to the long range dog because we could not hear it baying and caught hogs going to it as well. IMHO shorter range busy dogs will produce more hogs then long range get out of the country type dogs, however if the hogs are scarce in your area I can see the need for a go yonder type dog as well.
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