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« on: December 29, 2012, 03:18:18 pm » |
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I realize that alot of things factor in, but for those with bird dog experience, which pointing breed is the most trainable? I know there are lines within each breed that are day and night, but I would like y'alls opinions. I am looking for a dog with an intense desire to please.
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 03:32:50 pm » |
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the only ones i been around are the german short hairs . a buddy of mine used to train them , they seemed to have a brain as far as bird dogs go .
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earlisbubba
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 03:44:24 pm » |
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Did they seem easy to handle? Hard headed?
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 04:02:53 pm » |
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they paid attention to him pretty well but were worked with e-collars quite a bit lol .
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dan
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 04:20:41 pm » |
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German dogs are my choice for "trainability". GSP or GWP. All of the good ones I've seen were a little hard headed. They are high drive can be trouble when not worked or trained often. I've seen a couple that were down right mean and destructive. I've never owned a pure bred English Pointer. Mine have been crosses of EPXLab and EPXbulldogs. My EPXLab was the easiest dog to train that I've ever seen. Here is my latest bird dog. He is a Verein Deustch Drahthaar "Silas".  |
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 06:54:37 pm » |
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I always liked English pointers. I've never been around one that wouldn't hunt, they all had plenty of go.
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earlisbubba
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 07:12:39 pm » |
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I'm more interested in trainability and desire to please than hunting. I realize that most will stay busy.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 08:36:23 pm » |
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If you're after traianability and the pleasing factor I would go with a Vizsla. Very athletic, and a great desire to please. They will outrun anything in your kennel!
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2012, 12:18:04 am » |
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I have always had good luck training weimaraners. I used to raise labs and I switched to them and was very pleased. I have a Gsp puppy that's probably 6 months old and he is very easy to train. Always wanted a vizsla but never had one.
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jon
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2012, 11:32:04 am » |
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Gsp or Brittany spaniel what ru going to hunt
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2012, 03:05:32 pm » |
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I used to work at a big hunting camp on the King Ranch where we guided quail hunts. The main camp owned 50 dogs, leased 35 more, the other camp had 35 dogs, and we had lots of other dogs that we were tuning up or training.
All the dogs we used were english pointers with the exception of a few english setters. Training dogs all depends on the dog. Some are easy as pie and some are idiots that make you want to bank your head into a tree.
If you don't know what your are doing leave the e-collar at home. Work on getting a good whoa in your yard---not in the field. If you have a sure enough whoa on your dog you can stop lots of problems before they start. If it sees another dog on point just say whoa and you got it backing. If it gets birdy whoa it and you got a dog holding.
English pointers are by far the toughest dogs out there and you don't have to haul as many. They will still be hunting when the others are give out laying up in the dog box.
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earlisbubba
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2012, 04:16:38 pm » |
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I guess I should have stated what I was after. I have a catch dog that is ridiculously trainable. Never seen a dog with such a strong desire to please. My hunting spots are on the smaller side so I am looking to cross him to something for some short to med range rcd. The kicker is that I want them to LISTEN to me. I will prob go with a pointer or a gsp due to toughness and stamina.
Really I was wondering if bird dogs are actually trainable or just doing what comes natural to them.
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2012, 11:48:18 pm » |
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Really I was wondering if bird dogs are actually trainable or just doing what comes natural to them.
With a good dog its both, I took a chocolate lab out for the 1st time today duck hunting and he retrieved every duck that hit the water and brought em right to me like a champ, only things I've trained him is sit lay shake stay heel come and of course he'll play fetch but as far as hunting today was his 1st time u couldn't tell it |
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2012, 10:05:40 am » |
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you cant really see em but this was his 1st duck retrieve yesterday afternoon  |
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