woods pasture ?

[jdt]

i know some of ya'll do/have run cattle in woods pasture ? i may have an opportunity to rent a rough 250 acre woods pasture thats already fenced .


nobody here runs cattle just in the woods because they can't afford to fence it for the return on the investment . but the biggest reason is they can't handle the cattle , thats not a problem for me . 


how many acres do you need for a cow/calf unit ?

how many for yearlings ?

how much should i pay per acre ? its just sitting there not making the landowner nothing outside of deer season .

[cur-dog]

John I'd ask Clue he's pretty knowledgable about things like that.

[ironheadknls21]

The amount of cattle you can run on it depends on the amount of grass in the pasture and the browse in the woods. On good pasture grass you can usually run 1 head per 3-5 acres depending on the type of grass.

[jdt]

yeah , i will but i like to get all the info ican and see who knows what haha . besides clue don't even post on here  

    ohh and by the way i didn't think they even had trees taller than my little short self in waco . haaahahaha ,just kidding brent brent .


come see me next fall and we'll fill your freezer !

[jdt]

and iron head , we run a cow n calf on 2-3 acres of grass and feed 4 rolls of hay per cow on most years . some dry years it seems we feed hay all year lol.

i'm wondering about pasturing cattle strictly in the woods . our woods are about the same as north east tx east ok and west ar .

[cur-dog]

John, we got a few bushes around here. I'll see you next fall. Becareful on your trip and good luck with your pups.

[cur-dog]

Oh and don't let Clue talk you into buying any of those corrientes. But then again they might be just what you need for woods pasture.

[hogdog05]

John, I run some cattle in some woods type pastures.  One place i have is 450 acres with less than 100 acres being open.  Keep in mind that the last several years its been really dry, so it aint growing much grass, more like dirt.  I have 35 mommas on that place.  I feed on average 3.5-4 rolls per year per head, but i also feed cubes and salt meal.  Those cattle are never rolling fat but look good enough.  I could probably run more on the place but just ain't done it.  Those cows rely on the trees and shrubs.  I will hold out on hay as long as i can and make them eat on the trees.  But like you say, its cheap land to lease and there's alot of it most people won't mess with.  More land=More cows=More Money

[jdt]

brent , them horned type cattle can make a good livin in the same place other cows would starve to death .hahaha

brandon , your saying with enough rain and no grass that 10 - 20 acres of only woods would be enough ?

[Hogkiller,]

When its woods/pasture land i run a cow and calf for every 7 acres

[Lance]

Depends a lot on what kind of cattle you run on woods pasture.

[cward]

There are lots of variables. I would not give over $6 an acre for woods pastures. It really depends on the vegetation under the trees. If your grazing under pines or oaks. I would say 25 acres per cow. I would put some corrintee cattle in the with a black bull on them.

[cward]

John you are looking at it holding about ten head of cattle maxed if your lucky 15.  At $6 an acre witch would be as high as I would go. $1500 a year. If you had 10 calves that survive that would be $ 5000 a year on woods calves weaning them at 450 weight. If you figured 3 rolls of hey thats $150 per cow witch is another $1500 per year. Now you are $3000 in on the cows. But if you can figure in. A extra3 cows and push it hard it will cushion some of the $1500 if it would hold 16 head then it could cushion the  whole $3000 . I would be real surprised on woods pastures that it will hold over ten head. For all year long. If all was put together perfect you could clear a extra 5000 a year If put together on the low in you could clear $2000 yea year in extra income. Don't sound like much but if you had several of these pastures pretty close together 5000 could turn into $50000 real quick.

[jdt]

thanks chance , i tried to call yesterday and pick your brain about this .

[ROCKIN ROO HOG DOGS]

Yes corriente cows with their horns knocked all the way off with a black bull on them makes for some great little sale babies. Have done this before,they will raise a baby on very little feed,they are like a goat!!!

[warrent423]

What kind of timber you got. Buy it with timber rights. Let someone come in an "thin" it out. Run a hot, fast burning fire through it. Re seed and turn some "piney woods" cattle in there. If nuthin else, you can run cow dog trials  on it. We could show these Tennessee folks some proper "front end" dogs

[jdt]

hahaha warren , we couldn't get enough people with good dogs to have a trial .

i'd have to re-fence the whole place after they all left with their blue heeler " cowdogs " .  hell , i'd be penning and catchin cattle all over the county