ridgebacks: truth or total Bull

[WAARHEID]

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[Boardog]

This may be off topic but i got two cur/bulldogs that i trust to hold a 300lb boar while i grab it. Seen em do it time and again and they are both probly not over 50lbs and they are all fearless! In my opinion i think its the dogs brain that makes it able to hold a hog than its size there is some things that you can do a certain way and not have to use much force. Kinda like work smarter not harder!

Michael Conatser

[smwilson]

ordered my "Pioneers"  book a minute ago.   I trap hogs, have off and on for 35 years. Don't claim to be the best at it, just enjoy the challenge.  Have a place that would be excellent to hunt dogs. Have pens and enclosed corrals to work dogs. Problem is I have only been on one dog hunt about a month ago. Don't have a problem investing money in good dogs. The problem is I don't have the knowledge to be sure what a good dog is. If it's a couple of puppies to work in pens on small pigs and send to a trainer to finish. That is why the information I get from here is so important and sends me in the right direction. I would prefer to stay with two dogs, that was why I was interested in the ridgebacks.  Have two dogs now, just good all around ranch dogs. Both are over 10.  slowing down, can't push them to hard anymore. thanks for the help

[nosightsneeded]

I don't understand why someone would not want a ridgeback that bays.  If you wanted a bay dog, and a certain ridgeback fit the bill, then why not?  Not trying to be a wise guy here, I'm just missing something. 

Lets say I told you i had three bays dogs BMC, a Cat , and a Ridgeback. you dont think anything is kinda funny about that? no one would say "why do you have a BMC?" no they would they would wonder why you are draging along a 100 lb help dog. because if you dont have one these 45lb ancient breed ridgebacks that yall talk about that were breed bay you have a cull in my eyes. you will have just what everyone else has a big son of a gun, and if he isnt big you couldnt tell him that.  I put a all bay Ridgeback right next to an all bay dogo hopefully in someone elses yard.

[bayemup87]

for yall that run ridgebacks do yall run one dog on ground with them that will bark and not catch that way you can tell where dog n hog r if they catch ! lf you dont hear squeal what do you do ! i got a bloodhound/cur that will find one and goes strait to hear couple days go he went out found one caught could not hear or find where they was ! found him lil later he was all cut up ! i been wanting to get me ridgeback to throw with him to hold down big daddy when he get him! and been looking and talking to peep and think ima try get one ! just wondering what yall do when they rock out leave out and catch one them mean ones that dont squeal !??

[McCoy]

 Garmin , Bo when he catches makes an alwful noise u know where he is sounds like a lion!

[Rowdy]

for yall that run ridgebacks do yall run one dog on ground with them that will bark and not catch that way you can tell where dog n hog r if they catch ! lf you dont hear squeal what do you do ! i got a bloodhound/cur that will find one and goes strait to hear couple days go he went out found one caught could not hear or find where they was ! found him lil later he was all cut up ! i been wanting to get me ridgeback to throw with him to hold down big daddy when he get him! and been looking and talking to peep and think ima try get one ! just wondering what yall do when they rock out leave out and catch one them mean ones that dont squeal !??

 ther isnt but two things you can do is find a dog that will just bay or buy a garmin!!

[bayemup87]

yeh i hear ya ! most time i can hear and get there ! but sometimes will get out there yeh ima have to get one them garmins ! i aint had dog to long and hated him at first cause he always caught but i done got to like'n it and want another to throw with him ! that way 2 dogs all i need aint got lead pit threw woods ! i got a bmc/walker pup im hunting with him right now but he getting to where he dont wanna bark he wants to put mouth on it too ! if yall or know where a rideback is let me know ! i like that bo dog mcoy son gun looks good ! and saw ole jr on one rowdys pics damn good looking dog mad i aint get him now hope my pups turn out looking like him getting that big !

- mccoy do them ridebacks tear the hogs up pretty bad and most time have to stick them or what ?

[nosightsneeded]

if you wanted all catch  dog then apparently a  REAL Ridgeback would not be the dog for you. Maybe you could get ahold of a Ridge like everyone else has that will catch ( but he would come with out the fancy books)

[Rowdy]

- mccoy do them ridebacks tear the hogs up pretty bad and most time have to stick them or what ?   no they dont tear or rip unless its real small but most of the time it dont even happen then

[raider54]

"there nose will find hogs other dogs miss"

If the above statement is true, then that is a perfectly good reason to have a RR that bays.

I will second that notion

[Eric]

I have no experience with full blooded Ridgebacks... but my experience with hog hunters tells me he is stretching the truth to make a sale or has not been hunting long. If you hunt long enough you will come across a hog(s) you can't catch. He may have good dogs, but they are no super dogs. If they were that great, we would ALL be using them already. He isn't inventing any thing new over there.

Get your snake boots, long sleeve, gloves and tweesers together and go hunt with him before you buy any thing. I have hunted in Three Rivers on property that borders Choke Canyon (big lake). That would seem pretty tough to bay and shoot around there.

In my opinion i think its the dogs brain that makes it able to hold a hog than its size there is some things that you can do a certain way and not have to use much force. Kinda like work smarter not harder!

Michael Conatser

That's not opinion... thats physics. You are exactly right.

[WAARHEID]

I don't understand why someone would not want a ridgeback that bays.  If you wanted a bay dog, and a certain ridgeback fit the bill, then why not?  Not trying to be a wise guy here, I'm just missing something. 

"there nose will find hogs other dogs miss"

If the above statement is true, then that is a perfectly good reason to have a RR that bays.

Catchrcall, you're not missing anything man, CircleC figured it out. There are plenty of folks want a fast nose dog that bays, a Ridgeback that bays is an great choice for those folks. There are also those that prefer to leave the mule tape and knives at home, and gun hunt in the old tradition with their ridgebacks. Those are both plenty good reasons(if you want to see the other side Catchrcall, go to this ridgeback field trial judge training video, and fast forward to the 3:25 minute mark to the 4:35 minute mark, to see a pure bred ridgeback with some of the old style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxcnKUsqz0M&fmt=18)

Lets say I told you i had three bays dogs BMC, a Cat , and a Ridgeback. you dont think anything is kinda funny about that?

Funny you should say that nosights... I have a friend in florida that has exactly that combination! Two BMC catch dogs, a couple of Ridgebacks that track and bay (and some will back-up catch) and a Cat that mainly bays. It works for them. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

if you wanted all catch  dog then apparently a REAL Ridgeback would not be the dog for you. Maybe you could get ahold of a Ridge like everyone else has that will catch ( but he would come with out the fancy books)

Well man, I understand where you're comin from. I guess I would just encourage you to consider the possibility that "fancy books" have their place... there's no harm in learning about the history of your chosen breed. I haven't traveled around half of this country and made three trips overseas doing dog work with Ridgebacks so that I could hide behind "book learnin". I try to learn what I can, where ever I can learn it. That means i'll take it from the books about the dogs 100 years ago, from the old-time hunters and breeders about the dogs 30 years ago, and in the woods, to learn about the dogs that are right in front of me right now. Grown men can agree to disagree, cause I don't claim to know everything there is to know, and I don't have all the answers, but I've certainly put in my time and mileage looking for them... and yup... some have been found in the woods, and one or two have been found in history books.

At the end of the day, all I can say is that every hunter should hunt the dogs that make them happy... the dogs that make them proud to be dog men. What ever that means for you, get out and hunt em. 

[nosightsneeded]

"there nose will find hogs other dogs miss"

I DONT KNOW HOW I MISSED THE MOST RIDICOULOUS STATEMENT EVERMADE. BY SAYING THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT EVERY RIDGEBACK WILL FIND HOGS THAT OTHERS CANT. COME ON.

OTHER THAN THAT I CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. 

[pig snatcher]

Buddy, I dont know a thing about a ridge back but I do know that a lot of folks selling dogs are going to make their particulare strain sound like it is better than all others.  BUYER BE WARE there are no super dogs out there that as a breed are head and shoulder above anything else.  There are hogs out there that on a given day you arent going to catch.  Every dog is going to miss a hog sometimes.

This guy may be a good fellow and I am not putting anybody down but I have heard those same lines over and over.  GO HUNT WITH THE DOGS AND OTHER PEOPLES DOGS OF DIFFERENT BREEDS AND STYLES AND MAKE SURE THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT BEFORE YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY. DONT BUY BECAUSE OF WHAT ME OR ANY BODY ELSE TELLS YOU ABOUT A PARTICULARE BREED OR STYLE OF DOG.

[Circle C]

Nosights,

I have been emailing with a guy in a place called three rivers, TX.  He hunts hogs around some big lake. he says he uses only Rhodesian ridge backs. He bays and shoots hogs with one dog or uses two dogs to strike an catch.  One dog will strike and catch smaller hogs, "there nose will find hogs other dogs miss" . He says he has never run into a hog that both dogs together couldn't bring down. He sells them too!  Is there someone who has some experience with ridgebacks that can say if this is accurate for the usual ridgeback hunter.

Here is the statement in it's original context, in the first post of this thread.

[coach]

Most of you that have been doing this for some time talking 15+ years know that these people are like car salesman. The are going to do anything and say everything to get you to buy their product. It's happened with every breed of dog out there. Everyone has their own preference it's the ones that sit and listen to the cock and bull stories and keep circulating them to get others to buy into it. Sort of a spokesperson for the breed, until another comes into the picture.

[McCoy]

 nosight the statement just means they are good windin dogs that's all. There is no super breeds just super dogs!

[nosightsneeded]

nosight the statement just means they are good windin dogs that's all. There is no super breeds just super dogs!

THATS THE TRUTH

[jsh]

Nosights,

How long have you been a dog hunter?