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« on: January 29, 2013, 09:47:11 pm »

Besides the "Pretty Creek Tournament", what other tournaments will allow Barrs this year? 

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2013, 08:46:59 am »

Eastfork allows them. Im sure the bumpers will allow them.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2013, 09:20:34 am »

Eastfork allows them. Im sure the bumpers will allow them.

Is Cole having his tournament?
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2013, 09:26:57 am »

Los casadorez, they just don't count in side pots...
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2013, 11:55:32 am »

you can wiegh in barr hogs at my tourny. the nrth vs west  this yr
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2013, 11:56:48 am »

East Fork
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Bumpers...?
Los Cazadores...?

Waiting on TDHA's rules to be posted. Hopefully they don't go against the majority.

I also believe some of the contests that didn't allow barrs this year will change their rules to allow barrs next year. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2013, 03:35:09 pm »

Mine will we have added money and 8 bob berg buckles !!
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2013, 07:06:01 pm »

I'm sure the Randy Bumpur's is on.  I originally agreed with the rule, but I do "Not" have much experience catching Barr hogs so I realized I couldn't really make an educated judgement on the subject so I asked a few guys that I really respect their input on hogs and dogs and they told me that they are harder to catch than boars. I don't agree with the practice unless you do it on your own land and I think that if they are as hard to catch as they say they are that they shouldn't be much of an issue.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2013, 09:44:21 am »

East Fork
Blake Granberry
Bumpers...?
Los Cazadores...?

Waiting on TDHA's rules to be posted. Hopefully they don't go against the majority.

I also believe some of the contests that didn't allow barrs this year will change their rules to allow barrs next year. Wink
Mike tdha flyer says one Barr in the stringer. I don't feel it is right especially for the tdha competion because they support all of Texas. But the it is what it is. We fought a losing battle.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2013, 09:46:33 am »

I'm sure the Randy Bumpur's is on.  I originally agreed with the rule, but I do "Not" have much experience catching Barr hogs so I realized I couldn't really make an educated judgement on the subject so I asked a few guys that I really respect their input on hogs and dogs and they told me that they are harder to catch than boars. I don't agree with the practice unless you do it on your own land and I think that if they are as hard to catch as they say they are that they shouldn't be much of an issue.
JoeyI believe the people that voted no barrs in the tdha has no real experience with catching them either. But if they lined three up like we did last week they would understand
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2013, 09:59:22 am »

Chance, I guess I missed that... what a shame.

First, they did away with the "Hunt for the Hungry", which was why this contest was originally started. Now barr hogs, which the majority of folks supported and didn't have a problem with... and has never been an issue in this contest.

Fortunately, others are feeding the hungry and allowing barr hogs... what a shame TDHA.
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2013, 11:02:38 am »

I'm sure the Randy Bumpur's is on.  I originally agreed with the rule, but I do "Not" have much experience catching Barr hogs so I realized I couldn't really make an educated judgement on the subject so I asked a few guys that I really respect their input on hogs and dogs and they told me that they are harder to catch than boars. I don't agree with the practice unless you do it on your own land and I think that if they are as hard to catch as they say they are that they shouldn't be much of an issue.
JoeyI believe the people that voted no barrs in the tdha has no real experience with catching them either. But if they lined three up like we did last week they would understand

Who voted for this with TDHA?  Was is like a committy or board or what?
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2013, 02:08:19 pm »

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All 5 Board Of Directors voted
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2013, 02:19:41 pm »

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All 5 Board Of Directors voted

Thanks Wendy, just wondering who it boiled down too! 
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2013, 02:41:05 pm »

I do not know a lot about the situation as a whole but believe they did away with the "Hunt for the Hungry" because hunter's harvest no longer accepted wild hogs. I can tell you from experience...trying to find a place to go with dead feral hogs is not easy. I worked on that last year for the LSWDA and never found anyone willing to accept them for donations.

However...I dont see why it be an issue for the TDHA to make money off the hunt to help support the fight for dog hunter's rights. Mr Mason and others spend lots of time informing hunters of bills that hurt our hunting rights and makes trips to Austin for legislature meetings. In order to have a say and voice "our" opinion...it cost money. These organizations and legislatures want donations!

All that said.....I do not agree with the no barr rule and I dont even know what a barr looks like.  Grin Im half ass confused with this catch n tie thing as it is.

My theory is to crown the real champion and do most hogs in a stringer.
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2013, 02:42:13 pm »

All 5 Board Of Directors voted

And what was the reasoning for this change in the rules?

It's already been stated by two former BOD that barr hogs have NEVER been an issue.

There was an overwhelming show of support from those who were in favor of barr hogs and leaving the rule as is.

TDHA just alienated a whole lot of people and lost a huge amount of support.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2013, 02:58:49 pm »

Mike maybe we go back to allowing them next year, but where is the membership support from those who voted for barr's.

The rest of this post is not directed to you Mike.

At the end of the day its just a hunt to support TDHA so that we have the funds to pay people to fight for us in law making.  Have a good time hunting with some friends over the weekend and be happy your supporting something good. 

Do you not support what we do?  Would you sleep well knowing if i would have just hunted that hunt and helped them out i would be able to legally hunt now, but i didn't becuase i could not enter a stringer full of Barr's. 

If not allowing barr's alienated you or some from TDHA then i doubt your heart was in TDHA and what we do in the first place.  I have personal friends who are not happy about this but are hunting the hunt regardless.  CWARD who is very open about being against this is a 3 year member of TDHA and is hunting the hunt even though he is not happy at all.  That an action that speaks much louder then any words.   

We hope lots of people make this hunt and help us replenish our funds for lobbying and the schalorships we give away, but if you don't want to support that we understand but we would really appreciate those that don't to stop bashing those that do.   
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2013, 03:01:25 pm »

sorry mike i got off on something else and didn't answer you question, but i would say the main reason is the stringer size.  It used to be big and such a small stringer can be much tighter race and a stringer full of barr's would be very hard to compete with.  Its nothing against barr hunters in general at all.  Some do it as a regional practice and always have but the desire to win these contest is getting high and people are doing whatever it takes these days to win. 
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2013, 03:28:13 pm »

Field dressed hogs can't LEGALLY be donated to feed the hungry.

Live hogs are sold, and that money goes to directly fund lobbying efforts on the behalf of all dog hunters.

I think that is a very worthy cause to support and I am very proud to have been on the BOD when this was started. Last year the hunters entered in the TDHA contest raised just over $5,000 for direct lobbying on their behalf.

Y'all keep steeping around the problem with barrs. There are two problems with them in a contest.

1. They are going to be heavier because of their altered condition.

2. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not there have been people who have been barring hogs and moving them to honey holes for the contests.

This movement of hogs barrs or otherwise is against the law.

Y'all have been upset with TDHA, when you should be upset with the hunters who were stocking their honey holes with barrs just for the contests.
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2013, 04:00:00 pm »

No Paul, the polygraph should take care of any issues of hunter's stocking their honey holes with hogs... barrs, boars or sows.

This is starting to sound like the the gun control people... let's take them away before something happens! Give me a break, all this does is take away chances from the honest folks who enter.

I guess there's a new law on donating meat, or has the contest been ran illegally all these years?
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