What Tournaments will allow Barrs this year?

[B.Minchew]

For everyone that thinks you can stock a place with barrs please understand. We are cutting their testicles off, they still have four legs and can and will go wherever they please. I have personally cut and marked hogs that where turned loose and never seen again. For example anybody that knows anything about the area around Diboll, we cut a boar in Ryans Lake and he was killed a few months later in bear creek hunting club almost in Shawnee Prairie wearing our mark. That is probably 10 miles or more from where he was caught. So that whole stocking a place to win dont hold water. Unless it is fenced and that was illegal already.

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

Mike, We operated under a loop hole that is no longer available. We also got big, its one thing to donate a couple thousand pounds of pork, but the last year we gave the meat to HH it was 35,000 lbs. Last year they said they could not do it any more and I spent countless hours looking for another outlet for the meat and there is no legal way to do it.

I wold rather use this hunt to raise money for "our" cause anyway, "protecting the rights of all dog hunters."

As a side note, most of the meat donated in the past went south of the border.

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

No Paul, the polygraph should take care of any issues of hunter's stocking their honey holes with hogs... barrs, boars or sows.

Mike, the polygraph this year will cover, in detail, movement of any feral hogs for the contest. As well as hunting a spot that has any hogs relocated to it by any person not just team members.

[AnthonyB]

Chance, I guess I missed that... what a shame.

First, they did away with the "Hunt for the Hungry", which was why this contest was originally started. Now barr hogs, which the majority of folks supported and didn't have a problem with... and has never been an issue in this contest.

Fortunately, others are feeding the hungry and allowing barr hogs... what a shame TDHA.

Yes, TDHA should be ashamed for trying to fight for the rights of people that have no interest in supporting such an organization. Yes, hogs are no longer donated to hunters harvest, we make a monetary donation to keep our organization from breaking the law. I'm sure that the charity that we donate to can use that money to buy food to feed the hungry just as they would have used the meat that was donated to do the same. And there was no overwhelming support for barrs being allowed in the contest, it was pretty much 50/50 on for, against, and don't care.
Anthony

[Mike]

AnthonyB, where do you get a 50/50 split from? The two polls on here were more than double for those in favor. I didn't see anyone speak up on the TDHA forum. Just about everyone that voiced there opinion was in favor of barrs also. Where are all those against barrs?

Are they the silent ones that don't speak up?

How do expect TDHA to grow, gain more members and support when they go against what the majority of hunters want?

[cward]

The don't care vote can not be used by either side. There vote counted as there opinion but neither side can take credit for it. So we are down to 25% against50%.

[AnthonyB]

Mike,
I got those numbers from simply doing the math on the poll. I only used the one poll to do it. So if you break it down 53.4% were for barrs, 26.3% were against, and 20.3% didn't care. So if you group these numbers by relevance to the rule in question, 53.4% are for and 46.6% are against or unaffected by it. Pretty close to 50/50. You mentioned both polls, to use both we would need to exclude those that voted in both and average it back out the same way, and we must also remember that the poll represented 118 people with 63 being for barrs, which is far from a majority of hunters on this forum not to mention the TDHA membership, and barely represents a majority of the poll itself.
Anthony

[Peachcreek]

Why would the 20.3% automatically go towards the against side of the poll seems to me that 10.15% should go towards both sides. Geesh and i mean geeeeesh

Redo the math! But i did go to splendora high so maybe my learnin wasnt did right??

[c.hykel]

Why would the 20.3% automatically go towards the against side of the poll seems to me that 10.15% should go towards both sides. Geesh and i mean geeeeesh

Redo the math! But i did go to splendora high so maybe my learnin wasnt did right??

very good point.

[AnthonyB]

That was my take on the poll, it can be interpreted any way you want. I grouped them together because it didn't affect those that didn't care. So lets say that 100% voted for barrs, does that represent a majority of all hunters at the number of 118 people? Does it represent the majority in this forum? No, not even close. Any way you cut it, the poll doesn't conclusively show that the rule is a bad one in my opinion. But each hunter has their own.
Anthony

[AnthonyB]

And I'm pretty sure the math was correct, unless I'm wrong and 26.3 added to 20.3 isn't 46.6?
Anthony

[SnF bucking bulls]

i think 3w will, not too sure though

[jhy]

That was my take on the poll, it can be interpreted any way you want. I grouped them together because it didn't affect those that didn't care. So lets say that 100% voted for barrs, does that represent a majority of all hunters at the number of 118 people? Does it represent the majority in this forum? No, not even close. Any way you cut it, the poll doesn't conclusively show that the rule is a bad one in my opinion. But each hunter has their own.
Anthony

To me it showed that most of the folks don't have a clue as to what the difference is if any and decided not to comment. I took from the poll personally that there were a lot of knowledgable dog men who's opinions I respect saying that Barr hogs are a equally as hard to catch if not harder to catch in most cases.

[Peachcreek]

And I'm pretty sure the math was correct, unless I'm wrong and 26.3 added to 20.3 isn't 46.6?
Anthony

I guess u missed my point. Your math is correct. The equation is wrong. Why would the 20.3 automatically go to the against side? If the 20.3 vote didnt care either way it sounds to me the tally for that vote went to the side you were leaning towards. The 20.3 should be split and added to the for AND the against side.  

Here is how i see the poll working out...

For barrs.              Against barrs
  63.55%.                  36.45%

[Bryant]

TDHA folks (BOD),

Why don't you guys print a survey card and require each team that registers for the tournament this year to express their opinion.  That way you get a 100% opinion from 100% of people who are actually competing.  That would get you some actual useful data for next years consideration.

I believe the data within the two polls conducted here to be pretty worthless if you ask me.  I'd be curious to know how many of the voters actually hunt the competitions, and also believe that there are a lot of hunters and competitors who don't necessarily do the internet / forum deal.

[Circle C]

TDHA folks (BOD),

Why don't you guys print a survey card and require each team that registers for the tournament this year to express their opinion.  That way you get a 100% opinion from 100% of people who are actually competing.  That would get you some actual useful data for next years consideration.

I believe the data within the two polls conducted here to be pretty worthless if you ask me.  I'd be curious to know how many of the voters actually hunt the competitions, and also believe that there are a lot of hunters and competitors who don't necessarily do the internet / forum deal.

Best post I have seen to date regarding the Barr/contest.

[cwhite_25]

TDHA folks (BOD),

Why don't you guys print a survey card and require each team that registers for the tournament this year to express their opinion.  That way you get a 100% opinion from 100% of people who are actually competing.  That would get you some actual useful data for next years consideration.

I believe the data within the two polls conducted here to be pretty worthless if you ask me.  I'd be curious to know how many of the voters actually hunt the competitions, and also believe that there are a lot of hunters and competitors who don't necessarily do the internet / forum deal.

Very good post. The % may show people voting towards barrs but I bet the total number of people who voted is low. Come up with a list of questions and let the people who actually hunt this tournament decide exactly how the hunt should go next year. Barrs, numbers of hogs in stringer..etc..Make the poll of hunters determine 100% what the tournament should be next year....

[crj4926]

The rules are set and not going to be changed so IMO everyone needs to let it be and not complain anymore it is what it is this year. Lets all just hunt and have a good time and when the hunt is over then discuss with the tdha and see if you can come up with a solution. I am sure I'm not the only one that's tired of hearing all the complaining about barrs

[TShelly]

2. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not there have been people who have been barring hogs and moving them to honey holes for the contests.

This movement of hogs barrs or otherwise is against the law.

Y'all have been upset with TDHA, when you should be upset with the hunters who were stocking their honey holes with barrs just for the contests.

And I guess you have proof of this Paul?? You actually caught people lying through the polygraph correct??

Surely you arnt simply implying this without concrete proof, you've actually caught people doing this huh

[Mike]

Crj... the rules have been in place for years. There was absolutely no reason to change them this year.

That's what people are upset about.