Awesome Weekend- Gator Country Hunt

[got2catchem]

[Colby T. Brown]

I'm PRO-Barr and I don't hunt tournaments so that shoots that theory right outta the water  

If anyone says they don't like catching a Barr hog, then they've never caught one.  Hogs are livestock, they oughta be worked like livestock when it's feasible.  Not everyone will agree with that statement, and it kills me to see pictures of a bunch of dead hogs that go to waste, but I don't say anything.  

The only thing these rolling pine hills is good for is raising cattle and hogs, and I guess the occasional white-tail.

Agreed...

[got2catchem]

For my area I see barr hogs in a different way........

Being in area that is primarily crop land and pasture, It wouldnt take long for me to get run off if a landowner trapped or shot an abnormally amount of barr hogs and they thought I was the one doing the cuttin. With the cost of diesel, seed, feed, fertilizer, labor, equipment, livestock, and leases they just dont really look highly upon the practice.

If someone around here is cutting hogs to fatten them up so they can catch and eat. They are basically doing it on someone else's dime.

Thats not to say I'm against them being allowed in tournaments, we have done plenty of good in tournaments where they are allowed.

I will say this though. When I spoke to the TPWD Rep. who said he was primarily the one who made the decision to shut down hunting in the Sam Houston National Forest. The practice of barring hogs, along with dogs chasing wildlife and outlaw hunters tresspassing are some of the reasons he gave for his decision.

I've caught a few pigs over the years and have only caught 2 barrs, they were 2 of the biggest hogs Ive caught. I guess it just different areas, but there must be some serious management to catch several barrs in a general area. If you can do it and landowners are fine with it, Im all for it...

[Lone Star 88]

I don't think it's about catching or not catching a barr hog. Our land owners wouldn't let us back on there property. The idea for them is to get rid of them. Not to let them go and eat and destroy the land. Catch them kill them or take them with you. Don't cut them and leave them to get fat off my land and crops period. This is just the way it is were we hunt. Five years hunting not one barr hog. Now one land owner cut them off. Took them, and the dead hog home to eat.

[T-Bob Parker]

I guess my humble and well thought out response to the argument of "we'd get run off for doing that" is....So what?


There's an entire portion of this state where they exsist and alot of Guys can't help but get on them.




Here's a thought for some, if we routinely cuaght 4, 6, or maybe even 8hogs  MOST OF THE TIME that we dropped dogs on the grain or pasture and took the hogs to a buyer or killed them in the feild or whatever you do with them AND provided proof to the owners that we were catching the number 2 out of hogs. KNOWING THAT most farmers ad landowners also like to shoot a big hog every now and then to eat or show off to their own buddies, doesn't it make since that after youve developed a relationship with that owner based on how badass of a hog catcher you are, that he'd be more likely to allow you the occasional trophy hog or at least look the other way ad take a few out himself for sausage??


There's a landowner I know of who said basically, " golly gee whiz, I didn't think you'd make them disappear, ive got another property for you, would you mind laying off this one till my sons get a chance to kill a few?".

Not trying to be a know it all or an A-hole guys, just posing the question invade some of yall haven't ever thought to ask. Be nice, I was being nice about it.

[cantexduck]

 Most weight over all. Wouldn't that work better for all ?



     T Bob has a point. So what if you can't cut boars on your hunting spots. Not other hunters problem.


 On the other hand. You can't weigh in more then one Barr hog. So what ? Bring in the biggest and let the others go.

 Man , I feel for the people who are figuring this out for next year. It is going to be hard to make everyone happy.

[got2catchem]

Speaking for me T-Bob, I can say that a conversation like you describe hasn't come up.....lol

The landowners I hunt for feed their families by money they make from what they produce, grow, and harvest. I've seen acres of corn layed down in a single night, hay fields torn up, hogs push in between yearlings at a feeder and acres of seed rooted out of the ground the day after it was planted. Im positive they do not farm / ranch just so I or they can hog hunt.  

Their are plenty of big hogs to catch, without me adding any more in my area.

Like I said before, Im not knocking barr hogs, its just something I cannot do where I am at. Its a fast way to get a bad reputation which could jeopardize my permission to hunt on other places.

Im not trying to take anything away from the monster that Chance and them caught. Thats is a once in lifetime hog and truth be told, Im still trying to break the 400 mark myself. I would have loved to be in on that catch. They were hunting in an area where that is not frowned upon, I hunt in an area where the practice of barring hogs is. Simple as that....

[AW]

I think a man needs to ask himself what's more important keeping a family tradition alive or winning a hog hunting contest? If its tradition keep on keeping on support the ones you feel like deserve it and forget the rest.

[AnthonyB]

What is interesting to me is that here we have this thread which has 87 replies and 2023 views, and all it really is is another barrs or no barrs thread. Yet there is another post about different laws that are being developed to make what we do illegal. That thread has 3 replies and 173 views even though it was posted a day before this one. Perhaps we have our priorities in the wrong place. By the time we as hunters get done bickering and figure out wether or not barrs should be used to make sausage or win tournaments it might be illegal to even hunt them, or boars and sows for that matter. Perhaps it's time to place this energy somewhere it can do some good for all of us as hunters. I know I would much rather be able to hunt 365 days a year and not be forced to retire all od my dogs versus worrying about a 3 day tournament that no one is forced to enter.
Anthony

[boone823]

What is interesting to me is that here we have this thread which has 87 replies and 2023 views, and all it really is is another barrs or no barrs thread. Yet there is another post about different laws that are being developed to make what we do illegal. That thread has 3 replies and 173 views even though it was posted a day before this one. Perhaps we have our priorities in the wrong place. By the time we as hunters get done bickering and figure out wether or not barrs should be used to make sausage or win tournaments it might be illegal to even hunt them, or boars and sows for that matter. Perhaps it's time to place this energy somewhere it can do some good for all of us as hunters. I know I would much rather be able to hunt 365 days a year and not be forced to retire all od my dogs versus worrying about a 3 day tournament that no one is forced to enter.
Anthony

Anthony
 I am afraid your right.  All the bickering is getting old anyway.

[sdillard]

This is why we did not enter this year! 

[WW-CC]

Some of these post are funnier than your best bud having a one night stand with a Fat Girl!! Hell of a hog you boys put down, "catch as catch can" big hog trophies for sure congrats

[chainrated]

Some fine Barr hogs fellas..
We like em around here..

[Wmwendler]

People have been Barring hogs for a long time, long before silly hog hunting tournaments came about.  And long before most of these anti bar folks learned how to hog hunt on the internet.  In my opinion, these tournaments are bogus anyway, and the fact that many of them removed bar hogs from eligibility is just more proof of that for me.

There are plenty of places in Texas where Barr hogs are accepted by land owners.  Places where there are no row crops to destroy........Pine timber land, range land, ect.  Places like that where a deer lease is a big part of income off a piece of land and having big Barrs around is just another way to make a hunting lease on that place more valuable for the land owner.  Barr hogs are relatively common in those places.

There are also places where barr hogs are not accepted by land owners.  Places where row crops are grown.  Barr hogs are not common in those places because they are not accepted by land owners.  Cutting hogs or turning hogs back loose would get you kicked off a place quick in those places.  Hog hunters know that and don't do it if they hunt on places that fit that bill.  But not all places are like this.  Those guys that cut boars, and catch allot of barrs do so because it is accepted practice where they are from, even tradition.  If you are jealous of that....its ok.  But that's no reason to run someone down, or make your self look foolish arguing against it.  Trust me, people like Cward, and tshelly would not be able to hunt the kind of properties it takes to maintain the quality of dogs they have if they were   cutting boars where it was not accepted

Long Live Barr hogs.

Waylon.

[justincorbell]

People have been Barring hogs for a long time, long before silly hog hunting tournaments came about.  And long before most of these anti bar folks learned how to hog hunt on the internet.  In my opinion, these tournaments are bogus anyway, and the fact that many of them removed bar hogs from eligibility is just more proof of that for me.

There are plenty of places in Texas where Barr hogs are accepted by land owners.  Places where there are no row crops to destroy........Pine timber land, range land, ect.  Places like that where a deer lease is a big part of income off a piece of land and having big Barrs around is just another way to make a hunting lease on that place more valuable for the land owner.  Barr hogs are relatively common in those places.

There are also places where barr hogs are not accepted by land owners.  Places where row crops are grown.  Barr hogs are not common in those places because they are not accepted by land owners.  Cutting hogs or turning hogs back loose would get you kicked off a place quick in those places.  Hog hunters know that and don't do it if they hunt on places that fit that bill.  But not all places are like this.  Those guys that cut boars, and catch allot of barrs do so because it is accepted practice where they are from, even tradition.  If you are jealous of that....its ok.  But that's no reason to run someone down, or make your self look foolish arguing against it.  Trust me, people like Cward, and tshelly would not be able to hunt the kind of properties it takes to maintain the quality of dogs they have if they were   cutting boars where it was not accepted

Long Live Barr hogs.

Waylon.

Mr. Waylon, I agree with your post, very well said. I also agree about what you said about Cward and Tshelly, it don't matter how many idiots get on here and talk bad about them guys......proof is in the puddin and they as well as the rest of their team are some hog huntin/catchin/cuttin fools..........I think half of these post come from pure jealousy directed at them........they may not be the best but they are deff. among the best as far as I'm concerned.......PICTURES DON'T LIE...............I think the most ignorant comment i've ever read on the internet came from this thread about their dogs ability to NOT catch boars LOL.....explain to me how the hell they catch barrs all the time....someone had to remove them piggie's testiculars  and i'd be willing to bet that those men have cut PLENTY.......some people are just ate up with dumbass!

I'm not kissin anyone's ass, hell with exception of Mr. Ward gettin in touch with me over the phone a while back to warn me about a guy that was up to no good i've never even spoke to any of them........anyone that will take the time to fill in a stranger about shady business is a good people in my book!

I will also state that as far as the boar/barr rule goes I don't have a dog in that fight (I don't hunt tournaments and I cut boars where I can and kill em where I can't), I see both sides of the arguement and both sides have valid points but at the end of the day a hog is a hog is a hog, if it was caught in the wild by dogs then it should count BUT rules are rules and if the tourny rules say no barrs then it is what it is ..........just my .02............bored at work and ramblin