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« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2013, 08:34:07 am » |
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Man I love hog hunting and have spent $500 on a pup but I couldn't ever see personally spending over 2 k on any hog dog. Being the chance of him/her not being here tomorrow. Now flip side of that coin, I ve seen blood trailing dogs go for 5k +, hell I ve been offered that for mine. But those dogs typically have a longer life than a hogdog. AND make money. But that's just been my experience. Best dog I have right now I spent $200 for so too each their own.. I was lucky to have a buddy, I wouldn't buy a dog or take a dog from just anyone
I see your point but in my eyes if I can I have good dogs and have the chance to buy on better than what I have to improve my dogs further down the line I will do it I would not spend more than I could afford but I enjoy hog hunting more than most. I like to have the very best dogs I can find. When I'm not hunting I am thinking about it is more than a addiction for me it is what I enjoy most of life so I will do what it takes to get the best I'm with you bud, I ve been fortunate to hunt around some good blooded dogs and been able to pick up one or two. But if the right dog came along and I could afford by all means I d buy it. The affording it part is where I get stuck. Hahaha |
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« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2013, 11:24:57 am » |
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When it comes to a 'finished' ready to go hog dog......
ya also gotta think....when folks ask what some consider higher prices....what all has been invested in said dog. Aside from normal maintaining (feed, vaccines, wormer).....the time put into training, and the gas spent on taking said dog out to hunt time and time again....that all adds up.....so really, is that 'higher' price truely that unreasonable? Probably not.
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« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2013, 11:44:01 am » |
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I do agree that the time, effort and maintenance expense does way on the sellers mind but........on the buyers end.....not so much. Reason being I have yet to see a tax break for owning a recreational dog.
Unless you make a profit by the game the dog produces. I dont see a viable way for the buyer to justify the atrocious expense that a grown dog that had been taxed down to the kernel of dogfood it ate last night including the sellers gas money and twinkes the seller bought during the hunting trips to train it.
Would be great in theory on sellers behalf.....but impractical on buyers side.
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Reuben
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« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2013, 12:02:30 pm » |
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I do agree that the time, effort and maintenance expense does way on the sellers mind but........on the buyers end.....not so much. Reason being I have yet to see a tax break for owning a recreational dog.
Unless you make a profit by the game the dog produces. I dont see a viable way for the buyer to justify the atrocious expense that a grown dog that had been taxed down to the kernel of dogfood it ate last night including the sellers gas money and twinkes the seller bought during the hunting trips to train it.
Would be great in theory on sellers behalf.....but impractical on buyers side.
When it comes to a 'finished' ready to go hog dog......
ya also gotta think....when folks ask what some consider higher prices....what all has been invested in said dog. Aside from normal maintaining (feed, vaccines, wormer).....the time put into training, and the gas spent on taking said dog out to hunt time and time again....that all adds up.....so really, is that 'higher' price truely that unreasonable? Probably not.
both of you make excellent points...common sense will have to prevail... the seller has to consider time and money spend on the dog to a point...the deduction comes from the pleasure of training and owning a good hunting dog...and that includes that dog showing you a good time in the woods... However, I have seen som folks try to recuperate their money from a worthless dog which aught to be against the law...  on the buyers side...1000 to 2000 dollars is really not a bad deal if it is a good hunting dog...when you consider the cost of a well bred pup which can free to 5 or 6 hundred bucks...let's say that pup costs 300 hundred dollars and then at 1.5 years of age it has to be culled...then the process is repeated and the dog is an ok dog but lacks in size or color etc...etc...not to mention the feeding and vet care costs... either way my first choice is to breed my own...but the right breeding, breed, color, size, slick coat, temperament.and hunting style...I would gladly pay 1500-2000 because I would see it more as an investment than just buying a hunting dog... |
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« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2013, 12:59:38 pm » |
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My problems time I have bought dogs for cheap that for one reason or other didnt work out I have had decent luck raising dogs in the past never had one that realy showed out but I got 2 young dogs right now that have the most potential in a pup I ever had and I don't want to waist that and really think a jam up dog to put them with will make a huge difference one pup is (running walker x Parker cur) the other is (Engish hound x Catahoula) I have not owned dogs like these two before I think they will be something if I can just get them in the right direction. I think $1000-$2000 is alot of money to throw at a hog dog but not unfair considering expenses like Curcross says its what I love to do I dont fish or run the bars so why not spend a little money on my hobby $2000 is about my limit though haha thanks guys I just needed a little push to get out my wallet.
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« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2013, 01:36:53 pm » |
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no amount of money could buy a finished DOGO! you ain't got the money and your daddy doesn't either!
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« Reply #67 on: March 01, 2013, 02:47:32 pm » |
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no amount of money could buy a finished DOGO! you ain't got the money and your daddy doesn't either!
Is that becuase they are so rare? Kinda like the hope diamond?? |
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« Reply #68 on: March 01, 2013, 02:53:21 pm » |
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My problems time I have bought dogs for cheap that for one reason or other didnt work out I have had decent luck raising dogs in the past never had one that realy showed out but I got 2 young dogs right now that have the most potential in a pup I ever had and I don't want to waist that and really think a jam up dog to put them with will make a huge difference one pup is (running walker x Parker cur) the other is (Engish hound x Catahoula) I have not owned dogs like these two before I think they will be something if I can just get them in the right direction. I think $1000-$2000 is alot of money to throw at a hog dog but not unfair considering expenses like Curcross says its what I love to do I dont fish or run the bars so why not spend a little money on my hobby $2000 is about my limit though haha thanks guys I just needed a little push to get out my wallet.
Jason...lot's of folks think that they need a good dog to train pups...that is not true by a long shot...good hunting pups that have it in them just need to be taken to the woods and they will get it down quick enough...You can give a few baying sessions in a bay pen and/or a few mock hunts and after a few of those sessions put them in some hog sign and it will be on...a well bred young dog that has it bred in them don't need and old dog to show them how to hunt... |
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« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2013, 02:58:22 pm » |
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no amount of money could buy a finished DOGO! you ain't got the money and your daddy doesn't either!
Is that becuase they are so rare? Kinda like the hope diamond?? Or I guess, when they are over a thousand dollars for a pup, your right, I couldn't never afford one who made it all the way to finished. Not being a smarta$$ either, just kinda dawned on me that your probably right! |
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« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2013, 03:50:50 pm » |
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myself have never bought a hog dog or any dog for that matter... all my hog dogs free, my duck dog free, my blood dog free....... think people wanna lot of money for hog dogs heck price some well bred labs or golden retrievers
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« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2013, 04:45:13 pm » |
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im the same way,if i offer 2000 for a dog ive hunted with him several times and know exactly what the dog is.for that matter if i offer you 250.oo for a dog im gonna hunt with him and know if he has any potential.i dont go for this he said she said stuff.one hunt you cant tell what i need to know about a dog. i guess thats the reason i raise most of mine from my own stock or a good friends stock. if you start a group of pups on pigs at 3months and keep working them and improving them,buy the time they are 2years you have a lot of time invested in them not to mention feeding them and vet care. most of my pups at 6 months can find a pig using there nose if not they aint around my place long. its very hard for me to sell a 4year old finished dog that ive raised from a puppy.
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« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2013, 05:45:53 pm » |
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i would pay up to 5000 on a dog i liked, but he would have to be what i wanted. what i have seen with people around here buying dogs is, they drive a 1000 miles and get them back and they are usually not good dogs, but i think this is because of several different issues, different hunting styles, one good dog to me might be a $h!teater to you or vice versa because people hunt so much different in parts of the world. and alot has to do with the terrain. its hard to bring a dog that has hunted open land all his life and excelled out there and dump him in these brair patches and swamps down here and he looks stupid. and im sure one of our best dogs would look the like a number 2eater when he got put out in a open field. i think when buying a dog it would be better to buy it in the part of the country you will be hunting in
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Jason Dunn
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« Reply #73 on: March 01, 2013, 05:46:10 pm » |
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My problems time I have bought dogs for cheap that for one reason or other didnt work out I have had decent luck raising dogs in the past never had one that realy showed out but I got 2 young dogs right now that have the most potential in a pup I ever had and I don't want to waist that and really think a jam up dog to put them with will make a huge difference one pup is (running walker x Parker cur) the other is (Engish hound x Catahoula) I have not owned dogs like these two before I think they will be something if I can just get them in the right direction. I think $1000-$2000 is alot of money to throw at a hog dog but not unfair considering expenses like Curcross says its what I love to do I dont fish or run the bars so why not spend a little money on my hobby $2000 is about my limit though haha thanks guys I just needed a little push to get out my wallet.
Jason...lot's of folks think that they need a good dog to train pups...that is not true by a long shot...good hunting pups that have it in them just need to be taken to the woods and they will get it down quick enough...You can give a few baying sessions in a bay pen and/or a few mock hunts and after a few of those sessions put them in some hog sign and it will be on...a well bred young dog that has it bred in them don't need and old dog to show them how to hunt... Rueben I agree with you 100% but im gone working so much I cant stay consistant so when I do put them on the ground I need it to count and also need a dog to help with the trashing we got a deer every 100 yard where I hunt seems like. |
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« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2013, 06:08:29 pm » |
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Might as well spend alot of money on dogs. You can't keep it forever the richest man in the graveyard is still dead
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« Reply #76 on: March 01, 2013, 11:37:43 pm » |
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$1500-$3000 is fair to me I have seen pretty dang good ones for less than a grand and I have seen dogs I wouldn't feed 3k plus. Yeah it's rewarding raising pups but like said before alot easier in the long run to get a good young dog that has the right qualitys and start build pups off he/she. Instead of just starting from pure scratch but money can always be tight. A lot of people say the best are not for sale maybe be true in some cases but money talks. Some dogs will never be bought there is a ton of people that if they got of hog hunting tomorrow their dog would die on their yard of old age or die with a close friend.
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