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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2013, 01:55:33 pm »

IN UPSHUR CO. TOURNAMENT WE SEND A  JUDGE WITH EACH TEAM .
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2013, 02:08:07 pm »

IN UPSHUR CO. TOURNAMENT WE SEND A  JUDGE WITH EACH TEAM .

It is sad that is has to come to that!!! It seems the only to keep it fair now a days. Perty crappy a man can't keep his word over a lil money!!!
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2013, 02:32:07 pm »

One other thing that gets me about these contest.  Everybody thinks if you win these things it means you have better dogs than the next guy that could be the furtherst from the truth for the most part  .  Most the time 99.9% of the time all it means is you have better places to hunt than most are the next guy other than that it is just being in the right place at the right time with the right dogs.  There is nobody on here that can tell me some people dont load these places with hogs just for these contest .  Lieing and cheating has been a part of competetion since the day it was invented its sad but its true .  You can either live with it are try to change it good luck with both .
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2013, 02:40:13 pm »

IN UPSHUR CO. TOURNAMENT WE SEND A  JUDGE WITH EACH TEAM .

It is sad that is has to come to that!!! It seems the only to keep it fair now a days. Perty crappy a man can't keep his word over a lil money!!!

Man money has been the root of all evil for all of time. I don't doubt anything a man will do for a dollar.
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2013, 02:45:51 pm »

I entered all the contest this year we hunt a different place every time we went out. Several places we have never hunted for a contest. It is ashame that it has came to this. I enjoy pushing my dogs and enjoy the group I hunt with. We have caught more hogs in a month then we usally would catch all year. It has been fun. The tdha hunt was put together good and it was a successful hunt. Gator country had a nice turn out and we enjoyed it. The eastfork was a nightmare to most. Someone did fail the polygraph at gator country. The trail of tears stole money from me. Witch I would like to have my money back. Im not threatening with a lawyer. Im saying straight up you stole money from me Witch is steeling from my family and ain't no damn lawyer needed for that.
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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2013, 02:54:18 pm »

I entered all the contest this year we hunt a different place every time we went out. Several places we have never hunted for a contest. It is ashame that it has came to this. I enjoy pushing my dogs and enjoy the group I hunt with. We have caught more hogs in a month then we usally would catch all year. It has been fun. The tdha hunt was put together good and it was a successful hunt. Gator country had a nice turn out and we enjoyed it. The eastfork was a nightmare to most. Someone did fail the polygraph at gator country. The trail of tears stole money from me. Witch I would like to have my money back. Im not threatening with a lawyer. Im saying straight up you stole money from me Witch is steeling from my family and ain't no damn lawyer needed for that.

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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2013, 03:00:23 pm »

Im saying straight up you stole money from me Witch is steeling from my family and ain't no damn lawyer needed for that.
damn straight!!!
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2013, 03:49:37 pm »

Man money has been the root of all evil for all of time. I don't doubt anything a man will do for a dollar.

Technically the love of money is the root of all evil.


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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2013, 04:16:18 pm »

One other thing that gets me about these contest.  Everybody thinks if you win these things it means you have better dogs than the next guy that could be the furtherst from the truth for the most part  .  Most the time 99.9% of the time all it means is you have better places to hunt than most are the next guy other than that it is just being in the right place at the right time with the right dogs.  There is nobody on here that can tell me some people dont load these places with hogs just for these contest .  Lieing and cheating has been a part of competetion since the day it was invented its sad but its true .  You can either live with it are try to change it good luck with both .

I agree you must have good places to win contests. You must also be smart enough to hunt certain areas or particular places in a particular manner in order to place yourself in a position to win. However...the few teams that win or compete from tournament to tournamnet...year to year do have better dogs than most and probably have a yard full of better dogs than most.

The McVeays, Ward, Van Dorn, Elfrez and a whole list of other I dont know are probably in the 2% of real hog dogs better than the 98% out there. I dont know many others but see cutter& collars, J&K hoghunters that do well in tournaments and probably fall in the same cateogry as well. There are a whole mess of people with just as good of dogs that do not hunt these tournamnets or do not know how to win these tournaments....but they are in the few minority.
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« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2013, 06:45:26 pm »

The coment about stocked hogs is dead on and I know this from the mouth of someone that has hunted these turnys. Barrs are stocked hogs once cutt they will stay around food right or wrong it is the truth.  I dont hunt the contests but some times wish I did but barrs keepe from entering as I have never caught one and dought I will places I hunt if I cut a hog loose I might as well kiss that placegoodby
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« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2013, 06:53:00 pm »

Thats funny stuff right there...barrs stick around feed lol...and they cheated in the 1st one and somebody will cheat in all of them
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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2013, 07:04:43 pm »

One other thing that gets me about these contest.  Everybody thinks if you win these things it means you have better dogs than the next guy that could be the furtherst from the truth for the most part  .  Most the time 99.9% of the time all it means is you have better places to hunt than most are the next guy other than that it is just being in the right place at the right time with the right dogs.  There is nobody on here that can tell me some people dont load these places with hogs just for these contest .  Lieing and cheating has been a part of competetion since the day it was invented its sad but its true .  You can either live with it are try to change it good luck with both .

that is exactly why I never hunted them...when you have plenty of spots with lots of hogs, not to mention open woods, and then special places that haven't been dogged...no since in wasting my money...right now I don't even have my own places...and the places we hunt the hogs are smart and the palmettos thick...
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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2013, 07:10:32 pm »

The coment about stocked hogs is dead on and I know this from the mouth of someone that has hunted these turnys. Barrs are stocked hogs once cutt they will stay around food right or wrong it is the truth.  I dont hunt the contests but some times wish I did but barrs keepe from entering as I have never caught one and dought I will places I hunt if I cut a hog loose I might as well kiss that placegoodby

it aint just barrs that could be stocked... if you feed a sow or a boar in a place and keep doing so they dont need or want to leave. imo of coarse

About 6 months ago i had a boar in my 4 acre  pen and he was a big pud so he escaped...lol. but apparently found my feeder right outside the pen. well two months later my yard dogs caught him while i was at work. (not fun for my wife and daughter) anyhow some hogs will stick around food if fed
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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2013, 07:10:39 pm »

As long as I have hunted around here Milam Co. and a few neighbor Co. and as many hogs as I are we have caught I would say a big big number way way up there would not even begin to guess the number of hogs .   I have never caught but one Barr hog in my lifetime.  I dont care one way are another on the Barr deal with the contest but just saying wonder why that is ?
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2013, 07:25:11 pm »

We did the tdha hunt this year and we had fun but not near enough weight and iv been hunting for ten yrs and finally caught a Barr my first one I talked to a guy the other day and was talking about ppl feeding hogs for these tourments and cheating ppl that don't cheat have no chance to win or even place and I told him the only way to keep ppl from cheating is to send a judge or etc with them .. It's crazy what money does to ppl it makes me not even want to hunt tourments anymore ..
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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2013, 07:52:49 pm »

Feeding hogs doesn't guarantee there will just be big hogs there, just look at a game cam picture. And whoever thinks a barr hog stays where ever he is cut or turned loose at just doesn't have much experience with them.
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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2013, 08:02:04 pm »

If you think a person can beat a lie detector ....you lost you mind.  I can Gurantee the person who won the tdha tournament didn't cheat. He has better dogs than 99% and yes probably better places and knows how to hunt a place to win.

Every person on this forum has the same opportunity as the next person. I won the tdha tournament an d didn't need a barr or to cheat to win. Ive caught one barr in my life. Believing a person can only win a contest by cheating is ignorant. There are plenty of excellent dogs, hunters and educated circumstances that play into such.

I live in the hill country...even my dumba$$ is smart enough to know I must hunt east in farm country to compete. I also understand I must change hunting methods in order to be successful. Thinking everyone who wins...cheats...is making and uneducated assumption. Take your dogs and go hunt with Cole McVeay...you will be humbled.
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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2013, 08:02:49 pm »

Two things that will always go hand in hand fellas................CONTESTS AND CHEATERS.  Just ask Lance Armstorong.
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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2013, 08:05:50 pm »

its in any sport.there are cheeters in any thing you can imagine,ive got traps over in comanche wired all my gates shut to my traps someone cought a nice size hog out of one of my traps drug it around 150yards to the road. someone was wanting that pig pretty bad lol
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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2013, 08:32:21 pm »

The guys putting on tourneys need to put their foot down and if you fail there should be no controversy, you're DQ'd.... One thing I think we should change is the trespassing rule, you can't teach a dog boundaries and a good dog is gonna go a long way. We all trespass at one time or another. Throw that out the window as breaking a game law. And a Barr is a precaught hog!! If you are gonna allow them in a tourney there should be a percentage of weight deduction. What would be better is have a tourney where we take your top 5 sows.
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